Hi,

I am concerned with the EULA clause that states:

"The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device
one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the
“licensed device.�"

The obvious questions are:

A) How is the change of device detected?
B) If it is detected by tracking "substantial" changes of hardware (that is
the old method) how will that effect end users such as myself who build their
own PC's and upgrade incrmentally over a number of years until changing out
all of the hardware at once?
C) If the OS is "degraded" into a semi-functional state do to this detection
will it be possible to reactivate the OS into a normal state?
D) Will the reactivation process be 1) Free, 2) Quick and 3) available 365/24?



If the answer to C) is no or any part of D) is no I must say that that would
start my transition to FreeBSD or Linux.


Many thanks

Bill

Bill wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am concerned with the EULA clause that states:
>
> "The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device
> one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the
> “licensed device.�"
>
> The obvious questions are:
>
> A) How is the change of device detected?

A little program that comes with the OS does that.

> B) If it is detected by tracking "substantial" changes of hardware (that is
> the old method) how will that effect end users such as myself who build their
> own PC's and upgrade incrmentally over a number of years until changing out
> all of the hardware at once?

MS hasn't been kind enough to tell us what changes in hardware will
trigger the YOU'RE A THIEF! notices.

> C) If the OS is "degraded" into a semi-functional state do to this detection
> will it be possible to reactivate the OS into a normal state?

No info yet.

> D) Will the reactivation process be 1) Free, 2) Quick and 3) available 365/24?
>

No info yet.

> If the answer to C) is no or any part of D) is no I must say that that would
> start my transition to FreeBSD or Linux.
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> Bill

Start, although XP will be around for years.

Alias

Actually, they have posted the changes from XP/2003 activation. The posting
does give the weighting of the hardware characteristics. The most notable
change was the increased weight given to the system drive. I saw the link
here some weeks ago but did not copy it. It is somewhere on microsoft.com
however.

"Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
news:Ohj3tUr7GHA.1560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Bill wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am concerned with the EULA clause that states:
>>
>> "The first user of the software may reassign the license to another
>> device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes
>> the “licensed device.�"
>>
>> The obvious questions are:
>>
>> A) How is the change of device detected?
>
> A little program that comes with the OS does that.
>
>> B) If it is detected by tracking "substantial" changes of hardware (that
>> is the old method) how will that effect end users such as myself who
>> build their own PC's and upgrade incrmentally over a number of years
>> until changing out all of the hardware at once?
>
> MS hasn't been kind enough to tell us what changes in hardware will
> trigger the YOU'RE A THIEF! notices.
>
>> C) If the OS is "degraded" into a semi-functional state do to this
>> detection will it be possible to reactivate the OS into a normal state?
>
> No info yet.
>
>> D) Will the reactivation process be 1) Free, 2) Quick and 3) available
>> 365/24?
>>
>
> No info yet.
>
>> If the answer to C) is no or any part of D) is no I must say that that
>> would start my transition to FreeBSD or Linux.
>>
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Bill
>
> Start, although XP will be around for years.
>
> Alias

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> Actually, they have posted the changes from XP/2003 activation. The posting
> does give the weighting of the hardware characteristics. The most notable
> change was the increased weight given to the system drive. I saw the link
> here some weeks ago but did not copy it. It is somewhere on microsoft.com
> however.

Um, we were speculating about Vista, not XP.

Alias
>
> "Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
> news:Ohj3tUr7GHA.1560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Bill wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am concerned with the EULA clause that states:
>>>
>>> "The first user of the software may reassign the license to another
>>> device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes
>>> the “licensed device.�"
>>>
>>> The obvious questions are:
>>>
>>> A) How is the change of device detected?
>> A little program that comes with the OS does that.
>>
>>> B) If it is detected by tracking "substantial" changes of hardware (that
>>> is the old method) how will that effect end users such as myself who
>>> build their own PC's and upgrade incrmentally over a number of years
>>> until changing out all of the hardware at once?
>> MS hasn't been kind enough to tell us what changes in hardware will
>> trigger the YOU'RE A THIEF! notices.
>>
>>> C) If the OS is "degraded" into a semi-functional state do to this
>>> detection will it be possible to reactivate the OS into a normal state?
>> No info yet.
>>
>>> D) Will the reactivation process be 1) Free, 2) Quick and 3) available
>>> 365/24?
>>>
>> No info yet.
>>
>>> If the answer to C) is no or any part of D) is no I must say that that
>>> would start my transition to FreeBSD or Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>> Bill
>> Start, although XP will be around for years.
>>
>> Alias
>
>

Um, he said the CHANGES FROM XP. Think Vista.

"Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
news:Oc2zGBy7GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> Actually, they have posted the changes from XP/2003 activation. The
>> posting does give the weighting of the hardware characteristics. The
>> most notable change was the increased weight given to the system drive.
>> I saw the link here some weeks ago but did not copy it. It is somewhere
>> on microsoft.com however.
>
> Um, we were speculating about Vista, not XP.
>
> Alias
>>
>> "Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
>> news:Ohj3tUr7GHA.1560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am concerned with the EULA clause that states:
>>>>
>>>> "The first user of the software may reassign the license to another
>>>> device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes
>>>> the “licensed device.�"
>>>>
>>>> The obvious questions are:
>>>>
>>>> A) How is the change of device detected?
>>> A little program that comes with the OS does that.
>>>
>>>> B) If it is detected by tracking "substantial" changes of hardware
>>>> (that is the old method) how will that effect end users such as myself
>>>> who build their own PC's and upgrade incrmentally over a number of
>>>> years until changing out all of the hardware at once?
>>> MS hasn't been kind enough to tell us what changes in hardware will
>>> trigger the YOU'RE A THIEF! notices.
>>>
>>>> C) If the OS is "degraded" into a semi-functional state do to this
>>>> detection will it be possible to reactivate the OS into a normal state?
>>> No info yet.
>>>
>>>> D) Will the reactivation process be 1) Free, 2) Quick and 3) available
>>>> 365/24?
>>>>
>>> No info yet.
>>>
>>>> If the answer to C) is no or any part of D) is no I must say that that
>>>> would start my transition to FreeBSD or Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>> Start, although XP will be around for years.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>

John Barnes wrote:
> Um, he said the CHANGES FROM XP. Think Vista.

Oh, OK, I misunderstood.

Alias
>
> "Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
> news:Oc2zGBy7GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>> Actually, they have posted the changes from XP/2003 activation. The
>>> posting does give the weighting of the hardware characteristics. The
>>> most notable change was the increased weight given to the system drive.
>>> I saw the link here some weeks ago but did not copy it. It is somewhere
>>> on microsoft.com however.
>> Um, we were speculating about Vista, not XP.
>>
>> Alias
>>> "Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Ohj3tUr7GHA.1560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am concerned with the EULA clause that states:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The first user of the software may reassign the license to another
>>>>> device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes
>>>>> the “licensed device.�"
>>>>>
>>>>> The obvious questions are:
>>>>>
>>>>> A) How is the change of device detected?
>>>> A little program that comes with the OS does that.
>>>>
>>>>> B) If it is detected by tracking "substantial" changes of hardware
>>>>> (that is the old method) how will that effect end users such as myself
>>>>> who build their own PC's and upgrade incrmentally over a number of
>>>>> years until changing out all of the hardware at once?
>>>> MS hasn't been kind enough to tell us what changes in hardware will
>>>> trigger the YOU'RE A THIEF! notices.
>>>>
>>>>> C) If the OS is "degraded" into a semi-functional state do to this
>>>>> detection will it be possible to reactivate the OS into a normal state?
>>>> No info yet.
>>>>
>>>>> D) Will the reactivation process be 1) Free, 2) Quick and 3) available
>>>>> 365/24?
>>>>>
>>>> No info yet.
>>>>
>>>>> If the answer to C) is no or any part of D) is no I must say that that
>>>>> would start my transition to FreeBSD or Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>> Start, although XP will be around for years.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>