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Old 05-09-2009   #1 (permalink)
Zygy
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Directory

From a self-taught user.
The instruction reads:- Navigate to a Folder, right-click the directory and
chose "Always available offline"
When I navigate to a Folder in My Documents and right-click on it I do not
get "Always available offline" as an option.
How do I get the Directory, so that I can proceed with the right-click on
the Folder and get the desired result.


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Old 05-09-2009   #2 (permalink)
Richard G. Harper
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Re: Directory

Are you doing this on a network folder or a local folder?

"Zygy" <zygy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> From a self-taught user.
> The instruction reads:- Navigate to a Folder, right-click the directory
> and chose "Always available offline"
> When I navigate to a Folder in My Documents and right-click on it I do not
> get "Always available offline" as an option.
> How do I get the Directory, so that I can proceed with the right-click on
> the Folder and get the desired result.
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Old 05-09-2009   #3 (permalink)
Zygy
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Re: Directory

Local Folder
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Are you doing this on a network folder or a local folder?
>
> "Zygy" <zygy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#awDJJI0JHA.5288@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> From a self-taught user.
>> The instruction reads:- Navigate to a Folder, right-click the directory
>> and chose "Always available offline"
>> When I navigate to a Folder in My Documents and right-click on it I do
>> not get "Always available offline" as an option.
>> How do I get the Directory, so that I can proceed with the right-click on
>> the Folder and get the desired result.
>
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Old 05-09-2009   #4 (permalink)
Gordon
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Re: Directory


"Zygy" <zygy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Local Folder
You only get the "Use Off-line" option on a NETWORK folder....

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Old 05-09-2009   #5 (permalink)
Richard G. Harper
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Re: Directory

Then it won't work. You can't make a local folder "available offline"
because the only time it's offline is when the computer is shut off. The
"available offline" setting is so that network folders will be synchronized
and available even if you are disconnected from the network or network
resource.

"Zygy" <zygy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Local Folder
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eIx4guI0JHA.1900@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Are you doing this on a network folder or a local folder?
>>
>> "Zygy" <zygy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#awDJJI0JHA.5288@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> From a self-taught user.
>>> The instruction reads:- Navigate to a Folder, right-click the directory
>>> and chose "Always available offline"
>>> When I navigate to a Folder in My Documents and right-click on it I do
>>> not get "Always available offline" as an option.
>>> How do I get the Directory, so that I can proceed with the right-click
>>> on the Folder and get the desired result.
>>
>
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Old 05-10-2009   #6 (permalink)
Zygy
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Re: Directory

Whether it will work or not I will know when I try, after you have replied
to my original question i.e. how do I get the Directory? At the same time
maybe you will tell me how to get Windows Explorer in case the way through
the Directory will not work. Thank you and the other contributor.
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23TGEhJP0JHA.2656@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Then it won't work. You can't make a local folder "available offline"
> because the only time it's offline is when the computer is shut off. The
> "available offline" setting is so that network folders will be
> synchronized and available even if you are disconnected from the network
> or network resource.
>
> "Zygy" <zygy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e5#UHgJ0JHA.4632@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Local Folder
>> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eIx4guI0JHA.1900@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Are you doing this on a network folder or a local folder?
>>>
>>> "Zygy" <zygy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:#awDJJI0JHA.5288@xxxxxx
>>>> From a self-taught user.
>>>> The instruction reads:- Navigate to a Folder, right-click the directory
>>>> and chose "Always available offline"
>>>> When I navigate to a Folder in My Documents and right-click on it I do
>>>> not get "Always available offline" as an option.
>>>> How do I get the Directory, so that I can proceed with the right-click
>>>> on the Folder and get the desired result.
>>>
>>
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Old 05-10-2009   #7 (permalink)
Dave-UK
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Re: Directory


"Zygy" <zygy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:usZqCtW0JHA.6004@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Whether it will work or not I will know when I try, after you have replied
> to my original question i.e. how do I get the Directory? At the same time
> maybe you will tell me how to get Windows Explorer in case the way through
> the Directory will not work. Thank you and the other contributor.
The words 'directory' and 'folder' are the same thing.
Microsoft called it a 'directory' in earlier versions of Windows.
Then they changed it to a 'folder'.
So now we have the same thing called a directory or a folder.

Thus:
" Navigate to a Folder, right-click the directory and
chose "Always available offline".

is the same as:

" Navigate to a Folder, right-click the folder and
chose "Always available offline".


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Old 05-10-2009   #8 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP
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Re: Directory

On Sun, 10 May 2009 14:01:12 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

> The words 'directory' and 'folder' are the same thing.
> Microsoft called it a 'directory' in earlier versions of Windows.
> Then they changed it to a 'folder'.
> So now we have the same thing called a directory or a folder.

What you say is 99% correct, and for most practical purposes for most
people, it's fine. But it's not completely correct, and there is a
slight difference between the two. Read here for an explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directory_(file_systems)

That pages states "Strictly speaking, there is a difference between a
directory which is a file system concept, and the graphical user
interface metaphor that is used to represent it (a folder). For
example, Microsoft Windows uses the concept of special folders to help
present the contents of the computer to the user in a fairly
consistent way that frees the user from having to deal with absolute
directory paths, which can vary between versions of Windows, and
between individual installations."


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Old 05-10-2009   #9 (permalink)
Dave-UK
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Re: Directory


"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:78qd05d7tqtrhn9qmu7tplnhc5pq0c95aj@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Sun, 10 May 2009 14:01:12 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
Quote:

>> The words 'directory' and 'folder' are the same thing.
>> Microsoft called it a 'directory' in earlier versions of Windows.
>> Then they changed it to a 'folder'.
>> So now we have the same thing called a directory or a folder.
>
>
> What you say is 99% correct, and for most practical purposes for most
> people, it's fine. But it's not completely correct, and there is a
> slight difference between the two. Read here for an explanation:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directory_(file_systems)
>
> That pages states "Strictly speaking, there is a difference between a
> directory which is a file system concept, and the graphical user
> interface metaphor that is used to represent it (a folder). For
> example, Microsoft Windows uses the concept of special folders to help
> present the contents of the computer to the user in a fairly
> consistent way that frees the user from having to deal with absolute
> directory paths, which can vary between versions of Windows, and
> between individual installations."
>
Yes, thanks for that. I didn't bother thinking about the finer points; I just wanted to
give a basic explanation to the OP.


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Old 05-10-2009   #10 (permalink)
mazorj
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Re: Directory


"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:78qd05d7tqtrhn9qmu7tplnhc5pq0c95aj@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Sun, 10 May 2009 14:01:12 +0100, "Dave-UK" <here@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>> The words 'directory' and 'folder' are the same thing.
>> Microsoft called it a 'directory' in earlier versions of Windows.
>> Then they changed it to a 'folder'.
>> So now we have the same thing called a directory or a folder.
>
> What you say is 99% correct, and for most practical purposes for
> most
> people, it's fine. But it's not completely correct, and there is a
> slight difference between the two. Read here for an explanation:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directory_(file_systems)
>
> That pages states "Strictly speaking, there is a difference between
> a
> directory which is a file system concept, and the graphical user
> interface metaphor that is used to represent it (a folder). For
> example, Microsoft Windows uses the concept of special folders to
> help
> present the contents of the computer to the user in a fairly
> consistent way that frees the user from having to deal with absolute
> directory paths, which can vary between versions of Windows, and
> between individual installations."
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
As someone who was quite comfortable using directories and
subdirectories in CP/M and DOS, thank you for explaining that
technical difference, of which I was not aware. It makes perfect
sense in view of the way that Windows imbues graphic objects with
properties not available or even contemplated under DOS.

For all practical purposes in transitioning to Windows, it was
sufficient for us DOS users to just think of and treat Folders as
Directories. One exception for me was grasping the concept of using
special folders like Documents and My Music merely to hold links that
point to other "real" folders. It wasn't until I started browsing the
Users folder and its entries that I discovered the "real" location of
these files. It wasn't so bad under XP but with Vista I had a lot of
heartburn over trying to access places like My Photographs only to be
told that I didn't have rights to it. Huh? "That's MY folder, you
dummy! What do you mean I don't have rights to it?" Resetting the
security rights and file attributes in these "My X" folders was
confusing and creates far more headaches than solutions. But if I
drill down to Users/myaccountname, I can do anything I want in the
"real" folders for Documents, Music, Photographs. etc.

I know it's a security thing but I'm the only user on my machines and
I have robust security measures guarding my outside links. Unless I'm
missing something, IMO in my case it's an unnecessary and unwanted
obstruction to file management. Informed comments to the contrary are
welcome.


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