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Old 05-10-2009   #1 (permalink)
Casper


 
 

Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

Hello,

I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit.

From the original DVD, I created a smaller DVD image by using vLite,
removing some of the features I do not need, in order to have a
smaller Vista. Then I installed.

I removed the "Jet Database Engine" component also.
The problem I'm having is that by removing this component I cannot get
the setup of Visio 2007 properly complete. It stops and never
completes.

It says: (translated from Italian)
Error 1919... error during configuration of ODBC data source Visio
Database Samples. Error ODBC 13... "

I just tested on a virtual machine that if I just remove with vLite
the "Jet Database Engine" out from Vista, I get this error while
installing Visio 2007.

Is there any solution to bypass the error or to separately install the
"Jet Database Engine" withouth having to re-install all of the
operating system ?

Thank you much

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-10-2009   #2 (permalink)
Richard Urban


 
 

Re: Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

What other problems are you going to run into 4-5 months down the road
because you installed a non-standard version of the operating system?

Reinstall the full operating system, all service packs and all updates and
be done with it.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Casper" <giovanni.pedone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:40a03aa0-f261-45bf-b12a-fd406ac5e6ee@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit.
>
> From the original DVD, I created a smaller DVD image by using vLite,
> removing some of the features I do not need, in order to have a
> smaller Vista. Then I installed.
>
> I removed the "Jet Database Engine" component also.
> The problem I'm having is that by removing this component I cannot get
> the setup of Visio 2007 properly complete. It stops and never
> completes.
>
> It says: (translated from Italian)
> Error 1919... error during configuration of ODBC data source Visio
> Database Samples. Error ODBC 13... "
>
> I just tested on a virtual machine that if I just remove with vLite
> the "Jet Database Engine" out from Vista, I get this error while
> installing Visio 2007.
>
> Is there any solution to bypass the error or to separately install the
> "Jet Database Engine" withouth having to re-install all of the
> operating system ?
>
> Thank you much
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-10-2009   #3 (permalink)
Casper


 
 

Re: Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

On 10 Mag, 17:33, "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVET...@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

> What other problems are you going to run into 4-5 months down the road
> because you installed a non-standard version of the operating system?
You may be right, but see... there are things I'll never use like:
Windows Media Center
Natural Language
all the printer drivers
....
And sad you get no chance to choice at install time

Anyway, I made a test by creating two virtual machines:
- the first with the standard o.s., including Jet. Visio 2007 setup is
fine.
- the second where I stripped off the Jet Database Engine, and only
that one. Visio 2007 setup gets the error.

I will proceed according to your suggestion by reinstalling the
default, but would like to ask if there is any chance to install the
Jet Database Engine as a stand-alone package on Vista.

Thank you
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-10-2009   #4 (permalink)
Chad Harris


 
 

Re: Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

MSFT does not recommend using any tool to strip out applications from
Windows Vista prior to installing it on your system, as it may affect your
ability to download future Windows updates and service packs, and may cause
your system to become unstable", the company said in an e-mail to CNET
News.com.

Microsoft doesn't recommend creating Vista 'Lite'
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-9861474-56.html

This could be making it tough to get what you want done. I'm not
preaching, and if were familiar with v-lite, and knew how to get your
Visual database engine working, I'd tell you.

But you're probably confining yourself to the smaller population who both
uses Visio and uses V-lite at the same time. Why not try the visio group or
the multiple visio forums on the web like the excellent one at
http://www.wopr.com/lounge?

Best,

CH



"Casper" <giovanni.pedone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:40a03aa0-f261-45bf-b12a-fd406ac5e6ee@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit.
>
> From the original DVD, I created a smaller DVD image by using vLite,
> removing some of the features I do not need, in order to have a
> smaller Vista. Then I installed.
>
> I removed the "Jet Database Engine" component also.
> The problem I'm having is that by removing this component I cannot get
> the setup of Visio 2007 properly complete. It stops and never
> completes.
>
> It says: (translated from Italian)
> Error 1919... error during configuration of ODBC data source Visio
> Database Samples. Error ODBC 13... "
>
> I just tested on a virtual machine that if I just remove with vLite
> the "Jet Database Engine" out from Vista, I get this error while
> installing Visio 2007.
>
> Is there any solution to bypass the error or to separately install the
> "Jet Database Engine" withouth having to re-install all of the
> operating system ?
>
> Thank you much
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-10-2009   #5 (permalink)
Rafael Rivera


 
 

Re: Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

There's a list of Jet-related libraries in Microsoft's support article
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114).

See the *Files in Windows Server 2003 SP1 and Windows 2000 Service Pack
4 Update Rollup 1* section.

You may be able to copy these from a non-hacked-to-pieces Windows
installation and regsvr32 them manually. No guarantees though.

- Rafael

Casper wrote:
Quote:

> Is there any solution to bypass the error or to separately install the
> "Jet Database Engine" withouth having to re-install all of the
> operating system ?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-10-2009   #6 (permalink)
Richard Urban


 
 

Re: Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

<grin>

OK! You have the files. What about the hundreds/thousands of registry
entries that are almost surly needed also?

Lord, it's just easier to do a standard install.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Rafael Rivera" <"[firstname]"@withinwindows.com> wrote in message
news:eVrBeib0JHA.4800@xxxxxx
Quote:

> There's a list of Jet-related libraries in Microsoft's support article
> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114).
>
> See the *Files in Windows Server 2003 SP1 and Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
> Update Rollup 1* section.
>
> You may be able to copy these from a non-hacked-to-pieces Windows
> installation and regsvr32 them manually. No guarantees though.
>
> - Rafael
>
> Casper wrote:
Quote:

>> Is there any solution to bypass the error or to separately install the
>> "Jet Database Engine" withouth having to re-install all of the
>> operating system ?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-10-2009   #7 (permalink)
Rafael Rivera


 
 

Re: Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

I agree 110%. That said, it would be an interesting experiment for the
original poster to perform. What does he have to lose?

- Rafael

Richard Urban wrote:
Quote:

> <grin>
>
> OK! You have the files. What about the hundreds/thousands of registry
> entries that are almost surly needed also?
>
> Lord, it's just easier to do a standard install.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-10-2009   #8 (permalink)
Richard Urban


 
 

Re: Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

Nothing but his time. If he hoses his system we were already telling him to
reinstall. (-:

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Rafael Rivera" <"[firstname]"@withinwindows.com> wrote in message
news:%23aM%23ukc0JHA.480@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I agree 110%. That said, it would be an interesting experiment for the
>original poster to perform. What does he have to lose?
>
> - Rafael
>
> Richard Urban wrote:
Quote:

>> <grin>
>>
>> OK! You have the files. What about the hundreds/thousands of registry
>> entries that are almost surly needed also?
>>
>> Lord, it's just easier to do a standard install.
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-11-2009   #9 (permalink)
Casper


 
 

Re: Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

I will try that on a virtual machine just for fun :-)

I agree with you it's not safe enough to do on the "production" daily
sistem :-)

By the way these are the components I wished to remove, if that was
safe to do:
It would be nice if microsoft allowed to choose at install time or any
time thereafter. What do you think ?

;# Accessories #
Accessibility
Games-Game Explorer
Mobility Center
Speech Support
Welcome Center

;# Drivers #
Display adapters
Diva Server
Modems
Printers
QLogic Fibre Channel Adapter
TV Tuners

;# Hardware Support #
Infrared Support
TV Tuner support
Windows HotStart
Windows Mobile Device Center
XBOX 360 Controller

;# Languages #
all

;# Multimedia #
Media Center
Music and Video samples
Sample Pictures
Screensavers
SideShow


;# Network #
Connect to a Network Projector
Distributed File System (DFS)
Internet Information Services (IIS)
Remote Desktop and Assistance
RIP Listener
Telnet Server
Windows Collaboration


;# Services #
Error Reporting
Microsoft DFS Replication
Remote Registry
TPM Base Services


;# System #
BitLocker Drive Encryption
Digital Locker
Disk Quota
Microsoft Agent
Natural Language
Parental Controls
Security Center
Software Quality Management (SQM)
Tablet PC
Windows Easy Transfer
Windows SAT (Performance Index)

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-11-2009   #10 (permalink)
Casper


 
 

Re: Jet Database Engine on Vista and Visio 2007

I will try that on a virtual machine just for fun :-)

I agree with you it's not safe enough to do on the "production" daily
sistem :-)

By the way these are the components I wished to remove, if that was
safe to do:
It would be nice if microsoft allowed to choose at install time or any
time thereafter. What do you think ?

;# Accessories #
Accessibility
Games-Game Explorer
Mobility Center
Speech Support
Welcome Center

;# Drivers #
Display adapters
Diva Server
Modems
Printers
QLogic Fibre Channel Adapter
TV Tuners

;# Hardware Support #
Infrared Support
TV Tuner support
Windows HotStart
Windows Mobile Device Center
XBOX 360 Controller

;# Languages #
all

;# Multimedia #
Media Center
Music and Video samples
Sample Pictures
Screensavers
SideShow


;# Network #
Connect to a Network Projector
Distributed File System (DFS)
Internet Information Services (IIS)
Remote Desktop and Assistance
RIP Listener
Telnet Server
Windows Collaboration


;# Services #
Error Reporting
Microsoft DFS Replication
Remote Registry
TPM Base Services


;# System #
BitLocker Drive Encryption
Digital Locker
Disk Quota
Microsoft Agent
Natural Language
Parental Controls
Security Center
Software Quality Management (SQM)
Tablet PC
Windows Easy Transfer
Windows SAT (Performance Index)

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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