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Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

  1. #1


    AMDX2 Guest

    Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    If people have Vista beta 2 and they got it somewhere else then MS, so you
    know that would mean like from nntp or whatever, I'm curious as to if MS
    cares like for those people to submit bug reports and feedback using the
    feedback link and bug reporting tool? I know they don't like how people
    download it that way. I'm just wondering about how it's looked upon for
    feedback and bug reports in those cases.

    Also how can you get on beta team with MS so you can offically test for MS
    and give them feedback plus bug reports?


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  2. #2


    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

    Re: Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    If you received Windows Vista through the regular channels such as MSDN,
    Technet or as a Technical Tester you should report bugs using reporting
    tool. I don't think they have anyway of identifying you are running a
    legitimate copy or not.
    --
    Andre
    Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    news:270D263A-2C31-40A1-A183-BB15A502B35E@microsoft.com...
    > If people have Vista beta 2 and they got it somewhere else then MS, so you
    > know that would mean like from nntp or whatever, I'm curious as to if MS
    > cares like for those people to submit bug reports and feedback using the
    > feedback link and bug reporting tool? I know they don't like how people
    > download it that way. I'm just wondering about how it's looked upon for
    > feedback and bug reports in those cases.
    >
    > Also how can you get on beta team with MS so you can offically test for MS
    > and give them feedback plus bug reports?




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  3. #3


    AMDX2 Guest

    Re: Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:u$JZAuRhGHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > If you received Windows Vista through the regular channels such as MSDN,
    > Technet or as a Technical Tester you should report bugs using reporting
    > tool. I don't think they have anyway of identifying you are running a
    > legitimate copy or not.
    > --
    > Andre
    > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    > "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    > news:270D263A-2C31-40A1-A183-BB15A502B35E@microsoft.com...
    >> If people have Vista beta 2 and they got it somewhere else then MS, so
    >> you know that would mean like from nntp or whatever, I'm curious as to if
    >> MS cares like for those people to submit bug reports and feedback using
    >> the feedback link and bug reporting tool? I know they don't like how
    >> people download it that way. I'm just wondering about how it's looked
    >> upon for feedback and bug reports in those cases.
    >>
    >> Also how can you get on beta team with MS so you can offically test for
    >> MS and give them feedback plus bug reports?

    >
    >



    One thing that I do like is the ability in Vista to change your product key.
    I think this is terrific.

    I'd love to find out how to apply to be on beta team or whatever so I would
    be able to help offically with the builds and so forth reporting bugs etc.


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  4. #4


    Andre Da Costa [Extended64] Guest

    Re: Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    You can e-mail mchelp@microsoft.com or apply at http://beta.microsoft.com
    --
    --
    Andre
    Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
    Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

    "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    news:F2AD2AEA-4D76-4C46-8D98-10EF5D859B76@microsoft.com...
    > "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:u$JZAuRhGHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> If you received Windows Vista through the regular channels such as MSDN,
    >> Technet or as a Technical Tester you should report bugs using reporting
    >> tool. I don't think they have anyway of identifying you are running a
    >> legitimate copy or not.
    >> --
    >> Andre
    >> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    >> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    >> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    >> news:270D263A-2C31-40A1-A183-BB15A502B35E@microsoft.com...
    >>> If people have Vista beta 2 and they got it somewhere else then MS, so
    >>> you know that would mean like from nntp or whatever, I'm curious as to
    >>> if MS cares like for those people to submit bug reports and feedback
    >>> using the feedback link and bug reporting tool? I know they don't like
    >>> how people download it that way. I'm just wondering about how it's
    >>> looked upon for feedback and bug reports in those cases.
    >>>
    >>> Also how can you get on beta team with MS so you can offically test for
    >>> MS and give them feedback plus bug reports?

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > One thing that I do like is the ability in Vista to change your product
    > key. I think this is terrific.
    >
    > I'd love to find out how to apply to be on beta team or whatever so I
    > would be able to help offically with the builds and so forth reporting
    > bugs etc.




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  5. #5


    Jupiter Jones [MVP] Guest

    Re: Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    As far as I know, there are no new testers being accepted.
    But you can register here:
    http://connect.microsoft.com/

    As for unauthorized sources (anything outside of Microsoft)?
    Unreliable at best.
    While most may be true to original, some may be tampered by the unscrupulous
    person distributing unauthorized software.
    Without that assurance, bugs are unreliable.
    Further, I would question the integrity of anyone who feels the need to get
    software from an unauthorized distributor and report bugs or other issues.
    What else may they do that may corrupt the data?

    Getting it is bad enough, but the potential for corrupting valuable data is
    to high.

    --
    Jupiter Jones [MVP]
    http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
    http://www.dts-l.org


    "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    news:270D263A-2C31-40A1-A183-BB15A502B35E@microsoft.com...
    > If people have Vista beta 2 and they got it somewhere else then MS, so you
    > know that would mean like from nntp or whatever, I'm curious as to if MS
    > cares like for those people to submit bug reports and feedback using the
    > feedback link and bug reporting tool? I know they don't like how people
    > download it that way. I'm just wondering about how it's looked upon for
    > feedback and bug reports in those cases.
    >
    > Also how can you get on beta team with MS so you can offically test for MS
    > and give them feedback plus bug reports?




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  6. #6


    michael e dziatkowicz Guest

    Re: Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    what does mchelp@microsoft.com do?
    "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:%2338zPpShGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > You can e-mail mchelp@microsoft.com or apply at http://beta.microsoft.com
    > --
    > --
    > Andre
    > Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
    > Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    > Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    > http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    >
    > "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    > news:F2AD2AEA-4D76-4C46-8D98-10EF5D859B76@microsoft.com...
    >> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:u$JZAuRhGHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>> If you received Windows Vista through the regular channels such as MSDN,
    >>> Technet or as a Technical Tester you should report bugs using reporting
    >>> tool. I don't think they have anyway of identifying you are running a
    >>> legitimate copy or not.
    >>> --
    >>> Andre
    >>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    >>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    >>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    >>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:270D263A-2C31-40A1-A183-BB15A502B35E@microsoft.com...
    >>>> If people have Vista beta 2 and they got it somewhere else then MS, so
    >>>> you know that would mean like from nntp or whatever, I'm curious as to
    >>>> if MS cares like for those people to submit bug reports and feedback
    >>>> using the feedback link and bug reporting tool? I know they don't like
    >>>> how people download it that way. I'm just wondering about how it's
    >>>> looked upon for feedback and bug reports in those cases.
    >>>>
    >>>> Also how can you get on beta team with MS so you can offically test for
    >>>> MS and give them feedback plus bug reports?
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> One thing that I do like is the ability in Vista to change your product
    >> key. I think this is terrific.
    >>
    >> I'd love to find out how to apply to be on beta team or whatever so I
    >> would be able to help offically with the builds and so forth reporting
    >> bugs etc.

    >
    >




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  7. #7


    D@annyBoy Guest

    Re: Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    I wouldn't bother testing or submitting bugs if I got no access to the private
    ngs

    While sipping a glass of green tea, I read that AMDX2 wrote in
    news:F2AD2AEA-4D76-4C46-8D98-10EF5D859B76@microsoft.com


    > "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:u$JZAuRhGHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> If you received Windows Vista through the regular channels such as MSDN,
    >> Technet or as a Technical Tester you should report bugs using reporting tool.
    >> I don't think they have anyway of identifying you are running a legitimate
    >> copy or not.
    >> --
    >> Andre
    >> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    >> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    >> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    >> news:270D263A-2C31-40A1-A183-BB15A502B35E@microsoft.com...
    >>> If people have Vista beta 2 and they got it somewhere else then MS, so you
    >>> know that would mean like from nntp or whatever, I'm curious as to if MS
    >>> cares like for those people to submit bug reports and feedback using the
    >>> feedback link and bug reporting tool? I know they don't like how people
    >>> download it that way. I'm just wondering about how it's looked upon for
    >>> feedback and bug reports in those cases.
    >>>
    >>> Also how can you get on beta team with MS so you can offically test for MS
    >>> and give them feedback plus bug reports?

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > One thing that I do like is the ability in Vista to change your product key. I
    > think this is terrific.
    >
    > I'd love to find out how to apply to be on beta team or whatever so I would be
    > able to help offically with the builds and so forth reporting bugs etc.





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  8. #8


    Zack Whittaker Guest

    Re: Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    Well... if you check option 3 on here
    http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?bugreport - you'll be submitting
    feedback and error reporting messages (which are still very important)
    without having to type anything out )
    It's started automatically on first install - but just check that it's
    enabled )

    --
    Zack Whittaker
    ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not
    of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
    that up!

    --: Original message follows :--
    "D@annyBoy" <origin @ld @nnyboy @ gm@il.com> wrote in message
    news:uWdcOAYhGHA.1508@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >I wouldn't bother testing or submitting bugs if I got no access to the
    >private ngs
    >
    > While sipping a glass of green tea, I read that AMDX2 wrote in
    > news:F2AD2AEA-4D76-4C46-8D98-10EF5D859B76@microsoft.com
    >
    >
    >> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:u$JZAuRhGHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>> If you received Windows Vista through the regular channels such as MSDN,
    >>> Technet or as a Technical Tester you should report bugs using reporting
    >>> tool. I don't think they have anyway of identifying you are running a
    >>> legitimate copy or not.
    >>> --
    >>> Andre
    >>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    >>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    >>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    >>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:270D263A-2C31-40A1-A183-BB15A502B35E@microsoft.com...
    >>>> If people have Vista beta 2 and they got it somewhere else then MS, so
    >>>> you know that would mean like from nntp or whatever, I'm curious as to
    >>>> if MS cares like for those people to submit bug reports and feedback
    >>>> using the feedback link and bug reporting tool? I know they don't like
    >>>> how people download it that way. I'm just wondering about how it's
    >>>> looked upon for feedback and bug reports in those cases.
    >>>>
    >>>> Also how can you get on beta team with MS so you can offically test for
    >>>> MS and give them feedback plus bug reports?
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> One thing that I do like is the ability in Vista to change your product
    >> key. I think this is terrific.
    >>
    >> I'd love to find out how to apply to be on beta team or whatever so I
    >> would be able to help offically with the builds and so forth reporting
    >> bugs etc.

    >
    >
    >




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  9. #9


    AMDX2 Guest

    Re: Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:uiSyRDYhGHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Well... if you check option 3 on here
    > http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.php?bugreport - you'll be submitting
    > feedback and error reporting messages (which are still very important)
    > without having to type anything out )
    > It's started automatically on first install - but just check that it's
    > enabled )
    >
    > --
    > Zack Whittaker
    > ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
    > MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
    > Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
    > This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
    > rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
    > not
    > of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
    > that up!
    >
    > --: Original message follows :--
    > "D@annyBoy" <origin @ld @nnyboy @ gm@il.com> wrote in message
    > news:uWdcOAYhGHA.1508@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>I wouldn't bother testing or submitting bugs if I got no access to the
    >>private ngs
    >>
    >> While sipping a glass of green tea, I read that AMDX2 wrote in
    >> news:F2AD2AEA-4D76-4C46-8D98-10EF5D859B76@microsoft.com
    >>
    >>
    >>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:u$JZAuRhGHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >>>> If you received Windows Vista through the regular channels such as
    >>>> MSDN, Technet or as a Technical Tester you should report bugs using
    >>>> reporting tool. I don't think they have anyway of identifying you are
    >>>> running a legitimate copy or not.
    >>>> --
    >>>> Andre
    >>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
    >>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
    >>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
    >>>> "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:270D263A-2C31-40A1-A183-BB15A502B35E@microsoft.com...
    >>>>> If people have Vista beta 2 and they got it somewhere else then MS, so
    >>>>> you know that would mean like from nntp or whatever, I'm curious as to
    >>>>> if MS cares like for those people to submit bug reports and feedback
    >>>>> using the feedback link and bug reporting tool? I know they don't like
    >>>>> how people download it that way. I'm just wondering about how it's
    >>>>> looked upon for feedback and bug reports in those cases.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Also how can you get on beta team with MS so you can offically test
    >>>>> for MS and give them feedback plus bug reports?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> One thing that I do like is the ability in Vista to change your product
    >>> key. I think this is terrific.
    >>>
    >>> I'd love to find out how to apply to be on beta team or whatever so I
    >>> would be able to help offically with the builds and so forth reporting
    >>> bugs etc.

    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >



    Zack, I've always wondered about in win xp the error reporting tool that
    comes up when an app crashes. It sends data back to MS. Do you or anyone
    else know what this does as in does MS actually look at these and fix them?
    Because many apps can and do crash that aren't made by MS, so I wonder if
    they do anything.


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  10. #10


    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Guest

    Re: Get Vista B2 elsewhere then MS and bug reporting

    "AMDX2" <s@s.com> wrote in message
    news:uWIJYIYhGHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message


    > Zack, I've always wondered about in win xp the error reporting tool that
    > comes up when an app crashes. It sends data back to MS. Do you or anyone
    > else know what this does as in does MS actually look at these and fix
    > them? Because many apps can and do crash that aren't made by MS, so I
    > wonder if they do anything.



    Yes they do but they prioritize by how many of each thing they get.

    --
    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM
    Please reply in newsgroup.


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