CNET Review

Interesting...
http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_Vist...?tag=pdtl-list

Even CNET doesn't feel Vista's ready yet. They have some of the same very
complaints that I have about Vista at this point. I know some reviews you
should take with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting.

15 people say it is very good to excellent. 2 say it's terrible. I'm
guessing that 2 have inferior machines, hardware conflicts or shouldn't be
testing pre-release code at all.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
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> Interesting...
> http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_Vist...?tag=pdtl-list
>
> Even CNET doesn't feel Vista's ready yet. They have some of the same very
> complaints that I have about Vista at this point. I know some reviews you
> should take with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting.

My system specs:
Asus K8N motherboard
AMD Sempron 64 2800+ @ 1.8GHz (overclocked)
1.5GB of RAM
Ati Radeon X1600 PRO AGP 8x 256MB GDDR2 video card
Creative Audigy sound card
WD 120GB 7200RPM IDE 8MB cache HD
WD 80GB 7200RPM IDE 2MB cache HD

With the exception of the sound card, there appears to be nothing that's
inferior here.

Issues with RC2:
1. mfpmp.exe using 10% of CPU and 20MB of RAM when WMP11 is running -
causing the visualizations to be very slow.
2. Explorer crashes and 'calculating time remaining' stalls out when trying
to transfer a file onto another computer's network folder.
3. When I try to access a file from my network folder from another
computer, the other computer's explorer freezes for a minute or two, then it
reports that it lost the connection to my computer. When I go down to my
computer, Vista lost my entire Internet connection. It does this almost
every time.
4. When I save something to my desktop in this build, the item will not
appear on the desktop until I refresh the desktop.
5. The sidebar has forgotten my placement of my gadgets several times when
I start the computer.
6. WMP 11 shows a weird equalizer bug as a visualization when I go to the
equalizer settings, then go to full screen in WMP11. It also does this on
XP and it's done it to me on another computer as well with a completely
different video card.
7. Vista continually stalls when I go to shut-down. It does this at random
times, but the sidebar will disappear, then the computer will just sit
there.
8. Several times when I resume my computer from sleep, the power LED quits
blinking, but the screen stays blank and the HDs never kick on until I reset
my computer.
"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uDdrApH8GHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> 15 people say it is very good to excellent. 2 say it's terrible. I'm
> guessing that 2 have inferior machines, hardware conflicts or shouldn't be
> testing pre-release code at all.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
> news:uYUYRgH8GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Interesting...
>> http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_Vist...?tag=pdtl-list
>>
>> Even CNET doesn't feel Vista's ready yet. They have some of the same
>> very complaints that I have about Vista at this point. I know some
>> reviews you should take with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting.
>
>

So now that Cnet says it will you believe me? lol...

I am sure it will be saying what I have been saying for several months.. its
the truth guys... vista is not only not ready...

it will never be ready because its based on bad design... it would have to
change and that
wont happen.. not even with a SP...

yet what I have heard in here are totally wrong interpetations of what the
users are seeing.
Some say vista is faster than xp (!)
Some say its still beta.. well for that I left some slag.. but after rc2 It
is clear that they have no intentions on solving the problems, only bug
fixing.. and as I said its not enough


"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
news:uYUYRgH8GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Interesting...
> http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_Vist...?tag=pdtl-list
>
> Even CNET doesn't feel Vista's ready yet. They have some of the same very
> complaints that I have about Vista at this point. I know some reviews you
> should take with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting.

One of the 2 (gave RC2 the lowest rating so far) self admittedly isn't
running RC2, but from what he's "read and experienced" he isn't going to try
RC2. Wow.

"Richard Urban" wrote:

> 15 people say it is very good to excellent. 2 say it's terrible. I'm
> guessing that 2 have inferior machines, hardware conflicts or shouldn't be
> testing pre-release code at all.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>
> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
> news:uYUYRgH8GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Interesting...
> > http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_Vist...?tag=pdtl-list
> >
> > Even CNET doesn't feel Vista's ready yet. They have some of the same very
> > complaints that I have about Vista at this point. I know some reviews you
> > should take with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting.
>
>
>

The nvidia lan controller is broken with RC2 for many. This is a known
problem but no one seems to know whether it's vista causing it or if it's
nvidia problem.

"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
news:ubSBj6H8GHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> My system specs:
> Asus K8N motherboard
> AMD Sempron 64 2800+ @ 1.8GHz (overclocked)
> 1.5GB of RAM
> Ati Radeon X1600 PRO AGP 8x 256MB GDDR2 video card
> Creative Audigy sound card
> WD 120GB 7200RPM IDE 8MB cache HD
> WD 80GB 7200RPM IDE 2MB cache HD
>

Well, I'd take this review with a boat-load of salt... holy crap, those
idiots claim the Program Compatibility Wizard is "missing" from 5744.

And I quote: "It seems odd, given that program compatibility is a major
headache for users upgrading to a new OS, that Microsoft would suddenly drop
this feature."

It seems odd to me that whoever wrote this review isn't banned from writing
about anything related to computers anywhere, anytime.

I guess 3 mouse clicks was too much for these "reviewers" to carry out.
Uh... hello? Control Panel | Programs | Use an older program with this
version of Windows

....brings up, guess what? Yes... the Program Compatibility Wizard.

Now one could argue that sinister Microsoft went and removed the PCW icon
from the desktop or the start menu and gee whiz, we don't have the time to
take a look around and see if they put it somewhere else, we have to get our
drivel posted to the web post-haste, we're a TECHNOLGY site for crap's sake!

Major gaffe in my humble opinion... (and spare me the posts saying "Vista is
a major gaffe dude!" Malcontents need not respond.)

Only reason I could check this was I grabbed the wrong CD; when I thought I
was installing a different build, I grabbed the 5744 CD by mistake.

Lang

"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
news:uYUYRgH8GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Interesting...
> http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_Vist...?tag=pdtl-list
>
> Even CNET doesn't feel Vista's ready yet. They have some of the same very
> complaints that I have about Vista at this point. I know some reviews you
> should take with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting.

I would guess that is the old nVidia firewall problem where you have to
install it and then uninstall it. Seems to affect the IE32 only not the
IE64. I have the problem on my Vista64 where I can use the IE64 but nothing
on IE32 on the same system.

"Peter M" <phmcn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Otf$4fN8GHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The nvidia lan controller is broken with RC2 for many. This is a known
> problem but no one seems to know whether it's vista causing it or if it's
> nvidia problem.
>
> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
> news:ubSBj6H8GHA.4012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> My system specs:
>> Asus K8N motherboard
>> AMD Sempron 64 2800+ @ 1.8GHz (overclocked)
>> 1.5GB of RAM
>> Ati Radeon X1600 PRO AGP 8x 256MB GDDR2 video card
>> Creative Audigy sound card
>> WD 120GB 7200RPM IDE 8MB cache HD
>> WD 80GB 7200RPM IDE 2MB cache HD
>>
>

> Even CNET doesn't feel Vista's ready yet.

I don't care. CNET and News.com has since its inception been one of the most
anti-Microsoft sources on the Internet, short of Slashdot.

Of course, they're right; I was only reacting to the "even" in "even
CNET..."

Jon


"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
news:uYUYRgH8GHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Interesting...
> http://reviews.cnet.com/Windows_Vist...?tag=pdtl-list
>
> Even CNET doesn't feel Vista's ready yet. They have some of the same very
> complaints that I have about Vista at this point. I know some reviews you
> should take with a grain of salt, but it's still interesting.