Vista RTM Pushed Back by Allchin--Push it way back and fix it!

It's lookin like the part Turkey part Vista is appropriately gearing up for
a Thanksgiving week launch in the Big Apple ( I guess Seattle is the little
Apple):

Mary Jo Foley's ZDNet Blog:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=53

http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...leId=193303500

Quote from CRN:

"The long-touted Microsoft Vista/Office 2007 tandem launch is on for the
last week in November in New York, sources said. This event will focus on
business usage and scenarios.
The new client Windows operating system and Office client and server
applications have been promised for volume business customers by year's end
and for consumers by early 2007. "


Quote from Allchin:
Vista is not on track to be released to manufacturing on October 25,
according to Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's platforms and services
division.

"We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told me on
October 18. "We are in pretty good shape. And there are still months before
(the January 2007) launch."

Allchin said Microsoft is looking at Vista across five categories right now
to determine whether it's RTM-ready.

The five: Reliability, security, performance, driver coverage and
application compatibility. While some of these categories — such as driver
coverage and app compatibility — may not be as robust as many would expect
in order for Vista to RTM, Microsoft looks at things a bit differently,
Allchin said.

"We have to be done with Vista before the ecosystem can finish the rest,"
Allchin said.

An April Fools Day Launch April 1, 2007 would be a lot better for customers.

CH

Complete Non-Sense!

"Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
news:%23tJ5xW78GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> It's lookin like the part Turkey part Vista is appropriately gearing up
> for a Thanksgiving week launch in the Big Apple ( I guess Seattle is the
> little Apple):
>
> Mary Jo Foley's ZDNet Blog:
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=53
>
> http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...leId=193303500
>
> Quote from CRN:
>
> "The long-touted Microsoft Vista/Office 2007 tandem launch is on for the
> last week in November in New York, sources said. This event will focus on
> business usage and scenarios.
> The new client Windows operating system and Office client and server
> applications have been promised for volume business customers by year's
> end and for consumers by early 2007. "
>
>
> Quote from Allchin:
> Vista is not on track to be released to manufacturing on October 25,
> according to Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's platforms and
> services division.
>
> "We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told me on
> October 18. "We are in pretty good shape. And there are still months
> before (the January 2007) launch."
>
> Allchin said Microsoft is looking at Vista across five categories right
> now to determine whether it's RTM-ready.
>
> The five: Reliability, security, performance, driver coverage and
> application compatibility. While some of these categories - such as driver
> coverage and app compatibility - may not be as robust as many would expect
> in order for Vista to RTM, Microsoft looks at things a bit differently,
> Allchin said.
>
> "We have to be done with Vista before the ecosystem can finish the rest,"
> Allchin said.
>
> An April Fools Day Launch April 1, 2007 would be a lot better for
> customers.
>
> CH
>
>
>
>

> "We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told me on
> October 18.

I see this quote, yet I see nothing that this implies that it was "pushed
back". Show me the project plan that says the intent until now was to RTM
on the 25th.

P.S. Windows Vista is 100% Ready for RTM on October 25th, 2006.

"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ueUBdfD9GHA.4288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Complete Non-Sense!
>
> "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
> news:%23tJ5xW78GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> It's lookin like the part Turkey part Vista is appropriately gearing up
>> for a Thanksgiving week launch in the Big Apple ( I guess Seattle is the
>> little Apple):
>>
>> Mary Jo Foley's ZDNet Blog:
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=53
>>
>> http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...leId=193303500
>>
>> Quote from CRN:
>>
>> "The long-touted Microsoft Vista/Office 2007 tandem launch is on for the
>> last week in November in New York, sources said. This event will focus on
>> business usage and scenarios.
>> The new client Windows operating system and Office client and server
>> applications have been promised for volume business customers by year's
>> end and for consumers by early 2007. "
>>
>>
>> Quote from Allchin:
>> Vista is not on track to be released to manufacturing on October 25,
>> according to Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's platforms and
>> services division.
>>
>> "We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told me on
>> October 18. "We are in pretty good shape. And there are still months
>> before (the January 2007) launch."
>>
>> Allchin said Microsoft is looking at Vista across five categories right
>> now to determine whether it's RTM-ready.
>>
>> The five: Reliability, security, performance, driver coverage and
>> application compatibility. While some of these categories - such as
>> driver coverage and app compatibility - may not be as robust as many
>> would expect in order for Vista to RTM, Microsoft looks at things a bit
>> differently, Allchin said.
>>
>> "We have to be done with Vista before the ecosystem can finish the rest,"
>> Allchin said.
>>
>> An April Fools Day Launch April 1, 2007 would be a lot better for
>> customers.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

In your dreams; and a lot of people, MVPs and Vista book authors have
disagreed. Kevin where can I buy your Vista book?

CH


"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OcWXsdG9GHA.4288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> P.S. Windows Vista is 100% Ready for RTM on October 25th, 2006.
>
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ueUBdfD9GHA.4288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Complete Non-Sense!
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23tJ5xW78GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> It's lookin like the part Turkey part Vista is appropriately gearing up
>>> for a Thanksgiving week launch in the Big Apple ( I guess Seattle is the
>>> little Apple):
>>>
>>> Mary Jo Foley's ZDNet Blog:
>>>
>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=53
>>>
>>> http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...leId=193303500
>>>
>>> Quote from CRN:
>>>
>>> "The long-touted Microsoft Vista/Office 2007 tandem launch is on for the
>>> last week in November in New York, sources said. This event will focus
>>> on business usage and scenarios.
>>> The new client Windows operating system and Office client and server
>>> applications have been promised for volume business customers by year's
>>> end and for consumers by early 2007. "
>>>
>>>
>>> Quote from Allchin:
>>> Vista is not on track to be released to manufacturing on October 25,
>>> according to Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's platforms and
>>> services division.
>>>
>>> "We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told me on
>>> October 18. "We are in pretty good shape. And there are still months
>>> before (the January 2007) launch."
>>>
>>> Allchin said Microsoft is looking at Vista across five categories right
>>> now to determine whether it's RTM-ready.
>>>
>>> The five: Reliability, security, performance, driver coverage and
>>> application compatibility. While some of these categories - such as
>>> driver coverage and app compatibility - may not be as robust as many
>>> would expect in order for Vista to RTM, Microsoft looks at things a bit
>>> differently, Allchin said.
>>>
>>> "We have to be done with Vista before the ecosystem can finish the
>>> rest," Allchin said.
>>>
>>> An April Fools Day Launch April 1, 2007 would be a lot better for
>>> customers.
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Then why are they Closing Everyone's Bug's as By Design, Won't Fix, and Not
Repro, Just FYI. (The Answer: The Product Code is Locked, and Microsoft
is Currently Scheduled to Deliver RTM On Time which = October 25th, 2006,
Microsoft Time Zone, Just FYI)

"Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
news:OGeY6gG9GHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> In your dreams; and a lot of people, MVPs and Vista book authors have
> disagreed. Kevin where can I buy your Vista book?
>
> CH
>
>
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OcWXsdG9GHA.4288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> P.S. Windows Vista is 100% Ready for RTM on October 25th, 2006.
>>
>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ueUBdfD9GHA.4288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Complete Non-Sense!
>>>
>>> "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23tJ5xW78GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> It's lookin like the part Turkey part Vista is appropriately gearing up
>>>> for a Thanksgiving week launch in the Big Apple ( I guess Seattle is
>>>> the little Apple):
>>>>
>>>> Mary Jo Foley's ZDNet Blog:
>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=53
>>>>
>>>> http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...leId=193303500
>>>>
>>>> Quote from CRN:
>>>>
>>>> "The long-touted Microsoft Vista/Office 2007 tandem launch is on for
>>>> the last week in November in New York, sources said. This event will
>>>> focus on business usage and scenarios.
>>>> The new client Windows operating system and Office client and server
>>>> applications have been promised for volume business customers by year's
>>>> end and for consumers by early 2007. "
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quote from Allchin:
>>>> Vista is not on track to be released to manufacturing on October 25,
>>>> according to Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's platforms and
>>>> services division.
>>>>
>>>> "We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told me on
>>>> October 18. "We are in pretty good shape. And there are still months
>>>> before (the January 2007) launch."
>>>>
>>>> Allchin said Microsoft is looking at Vista across five categories right
>>>> now to determine whether it's RTM-ready.
>>>>
>>>> The five: Reliability, security, performance, driver coverage and
>>>> application compatibility. While some of these categories - such as
>>>> driver coverage and app compatibility - may not be as robust as many
>>>> would expect in order for Vista to RTM, Microsoft looks at things a bit
>>>> differently, Allchin said.
>>>>
>>>> "We have to be done with Vista before the ecosystem can finish the
>>>> rest," Allchin said.
>>>>
>>>> An April Fools Day Launch April 1, 2007 would be a lot better for
>>>> customers.
>>>>
>>>> CH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Indeed, the Windows Vista Product Code is Locked (which is why Microsoft is
Closing Everyone's Bug Reports as either Not Repro, Won't Fix and/or By
Design).

Windows Vista will indeed RTM on October 25th, 2006, Microsoft Time Zone.

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:eEGN%23KF9GHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told me on
>> October 18.
>
> I see this quote, yet I see nothing that this implies that it was "pushed
> back". Show me the project plan that says the intent until now was to RTM
> on the 25th.
>

> Indeed, the Windows Vista Product Code is Locked (which is why Microsoft
> is Closing Everyone's Bug Reports as either Not Repro, Won't Fix and/or By
> Design).

So is that inside scoop provided straight to you through your MSDN OS level
subscription?

> Windows Vista will indeed RTM on October 25th, 2006, Microsoft Time Zone.

Wow, I wasn't aware MS now had its own timezone.

Oh, I get it. In the "Microsoft Time Zone", only *they* get to define what
"October 25th 2006" really means.

Kevin;
Please post the source for this information.
PT, ZDnet are not reliable sources on this since they and others often just
want to be first and hope their rumour is correct.
A real source would be from Microsoft.
Or are you just guessing as so many others?

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:usthjnG9GHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Indeed, the Windows Vista Product Code is Locked (which is why Microsoft
> is Closing Everyone's Bug Reports as either Not Repro, Won't Fix and/or By
> Design).
>
> Windows Vista will indeed RTM on October 25th, 2006, Microsoft Time Zone.
>
> "Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:eEGN%23KF9GHA.3396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> "We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told me on
>>> October 18.
>>
>> I see this quote, yet I see nothing that this implies that it was "pushed
>> back". Show me the project plan that says the intent until now was to
>> RTM on the 25th.
>>
>

"Microsoft Time Zone"
That is GMT + how many hours?.


"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ei3pWlG9GHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Then why are they Closing Everyone's Bug's as By Design, Won't Fix, and
> Not Repro, Just FYI. (The Answer: The Product Code is Locked, and
> Microsoft is Currently Scheduled to Deliver RTM On Time which = October
> 25th, 2006, Microsoft Time Zone, Just FYI)
>
> "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
> news:OGeY6gG9GHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> In your dreams; and a lot of people, MVPs and Vista book authors have
>> disagreed. Kevin where can I buy your Vista book?
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OcWXsdG9GHA.4288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> P.S. Windows Vista is 100% Ready for RTM on October 25th, 2006.
>>>
>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ueUBdfD9GHA.4288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Complete Non-Sense!
>>>>
>>>> "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23tJ5xW78GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> It's lookin like the part Turkey part Vista is appropriately gearing
>>>>> up for a Thanksgiving week launch in the Big Apple ( I guess Seattle
>>>>> is the little Apple):
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Jo Foley's ZDNet Blog:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=53
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.crn.com/sections/breaking...leId=193303500
>>>>>
>>>>> Quote from CRN:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The long-touted Microsoft Vista/Office 2007 tandem launch is on for
>>>>> the last week in November in New York, sources said. This event will
>>>>> focus on business usage and scenarios.
>>>>> The new client Windows operating system and Office client and server
>>>>> applications have been promised for volume business customers by
>>>>> year's end and for consumers by early 2007. "
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quote from Allchin:
>>>>> Vista is not on track to be released to manufacturing on October 25,
>>>>> according to Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's platforms and
>>>>> services division.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told me
>>>>> on October 18. "We are in pretty good shape. And there are still
>>>>> months before (the January 2007) launch."
>>>>>
>>>>> Allchin said Microsoft is looking at Vista across five categories
>>>>> right now to determine whether it's RTM-ready.
>>>>>
>>>>> The five: Reliability, security, performance, driver coverage and
>>>>> application compatibility. While some of these categories - such as
>>>>> driver coverage and app compatibility - may not be as robust as many
>>>>> would expect in order for Vista to RTM, Microsoft looks at things a
>>>>> bit differently, Allchin said.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We have to be done with Vista before the ecosystem can finish the
>>>>> rest," Allchin said.
>>>>>
>>>>> An April Fools Day Launch April 1, 2007 would be a lot better for
>>>>> customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> CH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>