Vista - Word files corrupted on memory sticks

06-22-2009

Vista SP1, Word 2003

If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on my
Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message saying
the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover the
document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick.

If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make changes
all is well.

I work as a teacher in a small school and 3 of my colleagues have reported
the same issue. All use Vista, Word 2003, but different makes of laptop. We
have tried using new/different memory sticks but the problem continues. Our
XP desktops are unaffected.

Regards, Anastas.

06-22-2009

"Mikoyan" <mikoyan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O7okfk18JHA.3544@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Vista SP1, Word 2003
>
> If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on
> my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message
> saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover
> the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick.
>
> If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make changes
> all is well.
>

And you don't see the pattern here?

06-22-2009

"Mikoyan" <mikoyan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#jX56h28JHA.4176@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Thanks for the reply.
>

Quote:

>> And try changing current setting, there should be at least 2 options
>> listed:
>> a) Optimize ffor quick removal
>> b) Optimize for performance.

>
> Which of these two should I choose?
>

Neither. If you'd bothered to post in a WORD group you would have been told
"never edit a Word document on a removable device".
That is why they are being corrupted. DON'T DO IT!!!!

06-22-2009

"Mikoyan" <mikoyan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O7okfk18JHA.3544@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Vista SP1, Word 2003
>
> If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on
> my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message
> saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover
> the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick.
>
> If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make changes
> all is well.
>
> I work as a teacher in a small school and 3 of my colleagues have reported
> the same issue. All use Vista, Word 2003, but different makes of laptop.
> We have tried using new/different memory sticks but the problem continues.
> Our XP desktops are unaffected.
>
> Regards, Anastas.
>

You should never rely on a flash device as the primary storage media for any
changed file.

If you open the file in Word it will create a temporary file to the location
that the file was opened from, in your case a flash drive. This is what is
getting corrupted.

Flash drives have a limited read and write cycle life and while this is not
the reason you get file corruption (which can be caused by any number of
reasons) it is better to always save to a hard drive locally then open, make
corrections and save locally then copy back to the flash drive. Yes it is a
PIA but it is much more reliable. A simple batch file to copy the files to
a fixed location, pause to allow Word to process the files and save back to
the local location and then a copy back is what I use to transfer and copy
files from one location to another.

An example would be:

@echo off
xcopy X:\transfer\*.* C:\transfer /e /c /y /r
pause This is where you start Word and edit
and save the files. When word is closed press any key to copy back to flash
xcopy C:\transfer\*.* X:\transfer /e /c /y /r
exit

X:\ would be your flash drive's drive letter and "Transfer" would be the
folder name where the files to change would be placed and retrieved from.

06-22-2009

Thanks for the the reply LVTravel

Regards, Anastas
"LVTravel" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uNA85q28JHA.1248@xxxxxx

Quote:

>
>
> "Mikoyan" <mikoyan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O7okfk18JHA.3544@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Vista SP1, Word 2003
>>
>> If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on
>> my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message
>> saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover
>> the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick.
>>
>> If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make
>> changes all is well.
>>
>> I work as a teacher in a small school and 3 of my colleagues have
>> reported the same issue. All use Vista, Word 2003, but different makes of
>> laptop. We have tried using new/different memory sticks but the problem
>> continues. Our XP desktops are unaffected.
>>
>> Regards, Anastas.
>>

>
>
> You should never rely on a flash device as the primary storage media for
> any changed file.
>
> If you open the file in Word it will create a temporary file to the
> location that the file was opened from, in your case a flash drive. This
> is what is getting corrupted.
>
> Flash drives have a limited read and write cycle life and while this is
> not the reason you get file corruption (which can be caused by any number
> of reasons) it is better to always save to a hard drive locally then open,
> make corrections and save locally then copy back to the flash drive. Yes
> it is a PIA but it is much more reliable. A simple batch file to copy the
> files to a fixed location, pause to allow Word to process the files and
> save back to the local location and then a copy back is what I use to
> transfer and copy files from one location to another.
>
> An example would be:
>
> @echo off
> xcopy X:\transfer\*.* C:\transfer /e /c /y /r
> pause This is where you start Word and edit
> and save the files. When word is closed press any key to copy back to
> flash
> xcopy C:\transfer\*.* X:\transfer /e /c /y /r
> exit
>
>
>
> X:\ would be your flash drive's drive letter and "Transfer" would be the
> folder name where the files to change would be placed and retrieved from.

06-26-2009

Quote:

> Anyways, check out Cache Policies.
> Also if it's set for "performance"., NEVER UNPLUG USB stick by hand -
> always use "disable", "eject", 'safely remove' or whatever menu you have
> there.
> If policy is set for quick removal you can unplug w/o clicking any menus,
> but still don't until activity light stops flashing - pretty obvious you
> can damage filesystem otherwise and lose not just Word but all files on
> that device. I had bad luck with PNY, and great experience with Corsair &
> KINGSTON. I only buy American bands now to save our jobs, enough is
> enough of Asians slowly enslaving us.
> No more Sandisk, Sony or whatever... unfortunately PNY is based here in
> New York and they do make crappy products!

I have two Kingston memory USB sticks.

One 1Gig and the other 4Gig and both work quite well.

And both say Made in China on them.

**tasaholic** · 06-27-2009

Sad to say guys...but just like here in Australia...if you refuse to buy Chinese products,you'll be going without a hell of a lot of stuff!! The only real problem with Chinese made products in the Electronic Industry is...Is it Genuine??...there are a lot of counterfeits out there,but some assurances can be had by using trusted sellers/products etc,and ensuring that you have a definite contact for Warranty issues and that the seller is a legitimate agent or manufacturer. I have bought a few US made products that were just cheap crap too...but I don't brand all of that country's products as crap!The other thing is: how many of your so-called US made stuff is actually MADE IN CHINA-to us standards ? Does this make them as good as the ACTUALLY Made in USA? Reality is..the US are largely responsible for creating a world market,forcing others (Australia included) to drop their tarriffs on imports etc so US manufacturers had full global access...then argue no fair if anyone buys a non-us made item. When this issue is raised the US is full of condemnation and accusitory statements to divert the issue..but the truth remains!!

07-04-2009

Quote:

> Anyways, check out Cache Policies.
> Also if it's set for "performance"., NEVER UNPLUG USB stick by hand -
> always use "disable", "eject", 'safely remove' or whatever menu you have
> there.
> If policy is set for quick removal you can unplug w/o clicking any menus,
> but still don't until activity light stops flashing - pretty obvious you
> can damage filesystem otherwise and lose not just Word but all files on
> that device. I had bad luck with PNY, and great experience with Corsair &
> KINGSTON. I only buy American bands now to save our jobs, enough is
> enough of Asians slowly enslaving us.
> No more Sandisk, Sony or whatever... unfortunately PNY is based here in
> New York and they do make crappy products!

I have two Kingston memory USB sticks.

One 1Gig and the other 4Gig and both work quite well.

And both say Made in China on them.

07-04-2009

Quote:

> Anyways, check out Cache Policies.
> Also if it's set for "performance"., NEVER UNPLUG USB stick by hand -
> always use "disable", "eject", 'safely remove' or whatever menu you have
> there.
> If policy is set for quick removal you can unplug w/o clicking any menus,
> but still don't until activity light stops flashing - pretty obvious you
> can damage filesystem otherwise and lose not just Word but all files on
> that device. I had bad luck with PNY, and great experience with Corsair &
> KINGSTON. I only buy American bands now to save our jobs, enough is
> enough of Asians slowly enslaving us.
> No more Sandisk, Sony or whatever... unfortunately PNY is based here in
> New York and they do make crappy products!

I have two Kingston memory USB sticks.

One 1Gig and the other 4Gig and both work quite well.

And both say Made in China on them.

07-04-2009

"Lee Waun" <leewaun@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>

Quote:

>> Anyways, check out Cache Policies.
>> Also if it's set for "performance"., NEVER UNPLUG USB stick by hand -
>> always use "disable", "eject", 'safely remove' or whatever menu you have
>> there.
>> If policy is set for quick removal you can unplug w/o clicking any menus,
>> but still don't until activity light stops flashing - pretty obvious you
>> can damage filesystem otherwise and lose not just Word but all files on
>> that device. I had bad luck with PNY, and great experience with Corsair &
>> KINGSTON. I only buy American bands now to save our jobs, enough is
>> enough of Asians slowly enslaving us.
>> No more Sandisk, Sony or whatever... unfortunately PNY is based here in
>> New York and they do make crappy products!

>
>I have two Kingston memory USB sticks.
>
>One 1Gig and the other 4Gig and both work quite well.
>
>And both say Made in China on them.

You posted that exact message twice today and once on the 26th... that
should be enough.

06-22-2009	#1
Mikoyan n/a posts	Word files corrupted on memory sticks Vista SP1, Word 2003 If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick. If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make changes all is well. I work as a teacher in a small school and 3 of my colleagues have reported the same issue. All use Vista, Word 2003, but different makes of laptop. We have tried using new/different memory sticks but the problem continues. Our XP desktops are unaffected. Regards, Anastas.
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06-22-2009	#2
Gordon n/a posts	Re: Word files corrupted on memory sticks "Mikoyan" <mikoyan@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O7okfk18JHA.3544@xxxxxx Quote: > Vista SP1, Word 2003 > > If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on > my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message > saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover > the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick. > > If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make changes > all is well. > And you don't see the pattern here?
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06-22-2009	#3
Gordon n/a posts	Re: Word files corrupted on memory sticks "Mikoyan" <mikoyan@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#jX56h28JHA.4176@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks for the reply. > Quote: >> And try changing current setting, there should be at least 2 options >> listed: >> a) Optimize ffor quick removal >> b) Optimize for performance. > > Which of these two should I choose? > Neither. If you'd bothered to post in a WORD group you would have been told "never edit a Word document on a removable device". That is why they are being corrupted. DON'T DO IT!!!!
My System Specs

06-22-2009	#4
LVTravel n/a posts	Re: Word files corrupted on memory sticks "Mikoyan" <mikoyan@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O7okfk18JHA.3544@xxxxxx Quote: > Vista SP1, Word 2003 > > If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on > my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message > saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover > the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick. > > If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make changes > all is well. > > I work as a teacher in a small school and 3 of my colleagues have reported > the same issue. All use Vista, Word 2003, but different makes of laptop. > We have tried using new/different memory sticks but the problem continues. > Our XP desktops are unaffected. > > Regards, Anastas. > You should never rely on a flash device as the primary storage media for any changed file. If you open the file in Word it will create a temporary file to the location that the file was opened from, in your case a flash drive. This is what is getting corrupted. Flash drives have a limited read and write cycle life and while this is not the reason you get file corruption (which can be caused by any number of reasons) it is better to always save to a hard drive locally then open, make corrections and save locally then copy back to the flash drive. Yes it is a PIA but it is much more reliable. A simple batch file to copy the files to a fixed location, pause to allow Word to process the files and save back to the local location and then a copy back is what I use to transfer and copy files from one location to another. An example would be: @echo off xcopy X:\transfer\. C:\transfer /e /c /y /r pause This is where you start Word and edit and save the files. When word is closed press any key to copy back to flash xcopy C:\transfer\. X:\transfer /e /c /y /r exit X:\ would be your flash drive's drive letter and "Transfer" would be the folder name where the files to change would be placed and retrieved from.
My System Specs

06-22-2009	#5
Mikoyan n/a posts	Re: Word files corrupted on memory sticks Thanks for the the reply LVTravel Regards, Anastas "LVTravel" <none@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uNA85q28JHA.1248@xxxxxx Quote: > > > "Mikoyan" <mikoyan@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:O7okfk18JHA.3544@xxxxxx Quote: >> Vista SP1, Word 2003 >> >> If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on >> my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message >> saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover >> the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick. >> >> If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make >> changes all is well. >> >> I work as a teacher in a small school and 3 of my colleagues have >> reported the same issue. All use Vista, Word 2003, but different makes of >> laptop. We have tried using new/different memory sticks but the problem >> continues. Our XP desktops are unaffected. >> >> Regards, Anastas. >> > > > You should never rely on a flash device as the primary storage media for > any changed file. > > If you open the file in Word it will create a temporary file to the > location that the file was opened from, in your case a flash drive. This > is what is getting corrupted. > > Flash drives have a limited read and write cycle life and while this is > not the reason you get file corruption (which can be caused by any number > of reasons) it is better to always save to a hard drive locally then open, > make corrections and save locally then copy back to the flash drive. Yes > it is a PIA but it is much more reliable. A simple batch file to copy the > files to a fixed location, pause to allow Word to process the files and > save back to the local location and then a copy back is what I use to > transfer and copy files from one location to another. > > An example would be: > > @echo off > xcopy X:\transfer\. C:\transfer /e /c /y /r > pause This is where you start Word and edit > and save the files. When word is closed press any key to copy back to > flash > xcopy C:\transfer\. X:\transfer /e /c /y /r > exit > > > > X:\ would be your flash drive's drive letter and "Transfer" would be the > folder name where the files to change would be placed and retrieved from.
My System Specs

06-26-2009	#6
Lee Waun n/a posts	Re: Word files corrupted on memory sticks Quote: > Anyways, check out Cache Policies. > Also if it's set for "performance"., NEVER UNPLUG USB stick by hand - > always use "disable", "eject", 'safely remove' or whatever menu you have > there. > If policy is set for quick removal you can unplug w/o clicking any menus, > but still don't until activity light stops flashing - pretty obvious you > can damage filesystem otherwise and lose not just Word but all files on > that device. I had bad luck with PNY, and great experience with Corsair & > KINGSTON. I only buy American bands now to save our jobs, enough is > enough of Asians slowly enslaving us. > No more Sandisk, Sony or whatever... unfortunately PNY is based here in > New York and they do make crappy products! I have two Kingston memory USB sticks. One 1Gig and the other 4Gig and both work quite well. And both say Made in China on them.
My System Specs

06-27-2009	#7
tasaholic Vista Ultimate 32 bit; Vista Home Premium 32 bit ;Vista Home Premium 64 bit;Windows 7 . 78 posts	Re: Word files corrupted on memory sticks Sad to say guys...but just like here in Australia...if you refuse to buy Chinese products,you'll be going without a hell of a lot of stuff!! The only real problem with Chinese made products in the Electronic Industry is...Is it Genuine??...there are a lot of counterfeits out there,but some assurances can be had by using trusted sellers/products etc,and ensuring that you have a definite contact for Warranty issues and that the seller is a legitimate agent or manufacturer. I have bought a few US made products that were just cheap crap too...but I don't brand all of that country's products as crap!The other thing is: how many of your so-called US made stuff is actually MADE IN CHINA-to us standards ? Does this make them as good as the ACTUALLY Made in USA? Reality is..the US are largely responsible for creating a world market,forcing others (Australia included) to drop their tarriffs on imports etc so US manufacturers had full global access...then argue no fair if anyone buys a non-us made item. When this issue is raised the US is full of condemnation and accusitory statements to divert the issue..but the truth remains!!
My System Specs

07-04-2009	#8
Lee Waun n/a posts	Re: Word files corrupted on memory sticks Quote: > Anyways, check out Cache Policies. > Also if it's set for "performance"., NEVER UNPLUG USB stick by hand - > always use "disable", "eject", 'safely remove' or whatever menu you have > there. > If policy is set for quick removal you can unplug w/o clicking any menus, > but still don't until activity light stops flashing - pretty obvious you > can damage filesystem otherwise and lose not just Word but all files on > that device. I had bad luck with PNY, and great experience with Corsair & > KINGSTON. I only buy American bands now to save our jobs, enough is > enough of Asians slowly enslaving us. > No more Sandisk, Sony or whatever... unfortunately PNY is based here in > New York and they do make crappy products! I have two Kingston memory USB sticks. One 1Gig and the other 4Gig and both work quite well. And both say Made in China on them.
My System Specs

07-04-2009	#10
Manny Weisbord n/a posts	Re: Word files corrupted on memory sticks "Lee Waun" <leewaun@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > Quote: >> Anyways, check out Cache Policies. >> Also if it's set for "performance"., NEVER UNPLUG USB stick by hand - >> always use "disable", "eject", 'safely remove' or whatever menu you have >> there. >> If policy is set for quick removal you can unplug w/o clicking any menus, >> but still don't until activity light stops flashing - pretty obvious you >> can damage filesystem otherwise and lose not just Word but all files on >> that device. I had bad luck with PNY, and great experience with Corsair & >> KINGSTON. I only buy American bands now to save our jobs, enough is >> enough of Asians slowly enslaving us. >> No more Sandisk, Sony or whatever... unfortunately PNY is based here in >> New York and they do make crappy products! > >I have two Kingston memory USB sticks. > >One 1Gig and the other 4Gig and both work quite well. > >And both say Made in China on them. You posted that exact message twice today and once on the 26th... that should be enough.
My System Specs

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