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| | System Restore doesn't work System Restore will not restore my HP laptop to ANY point in the past. I get a message which says it encountered an unspecified error (VISTA). Also, I tried to access System Restore in safe mode and can't find it. Can someone tell me what to try? My Device Manager doesn't indicate any problems. Thanks. |
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| | Re: System Restore doesn't work rmo555@xxxxxx wrote: Quote: > System Restore will not restore my HP laptop to ANY point in the past. > I get a message which says it encountered an unspecified error (VISTA). > Also, I tried to access System Restore in safe mode and can't find it. > Can someone tell me what to try? My Device Manager doesn't indicate > any problems. Thanks. between the time things worked and the time they didn't? The Second Question of Windows Troubleshooting: what is the malware/virus status of the machine? If you think it is clean, what programs (and versions) did you use to determine this? Be sure the computer is clean: http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware Problems caused by Symantec - http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html System Restore - Error Messages in Vista - http://bertk.mvps.org/html/eerrormsgsv.html Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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| | Re: System Restore doesn't work <rmo555@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:62ah555earrm6pi6e7p82uabgs2t4gl6ef@xxxxxx Quote: > System Restore will not restore my HP laptop to ANY point in the past. > I get a message which says it encountered an unspecified error (VISTA). > Also, I tried to access System Restore in safe mode and can't find it. > Can someone tell me what to try? My Device Manager doesn't indicate > any problems. Thanks. Malware often affects restore points, so if you have recently picked up malware and have taken steps to remove it, you may also have to disable restore points, then re-enable for the function to work again.. If you are trying to use restore points to overcome a malware problem, the forget it for the reason above. -- Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ |
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| | Re: System Restore doesn't work On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:42:10 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > <rmo555@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:62ah555earrm6pi6e7p82uabgs2t4gl6ef@xxxxxx Quote: > > System Restore will not restore my HP laptop to ANY point in the past. > > I get a message which says it encountered an unspecified error (VISTA). > > Also, I tried to access System Restore in safe mode and can't find it. > > Can someone tell me what to try? My Device Manager doesn't indicate > > any problems. Thanks. > > Malware often affects restore points, so if you have recently picked up > malware and have taken steps to remove it, you may also have to disable > restore points, then re-enable for the function to work again.. Any form of malware--whether spyware, virus, trojan, or anything else--in a restore point is completely innocuous and can do nothing at all *unless* you restore from that restore point. As you say, the only way to remove the malware from the restore points is to turn off System Restore, then turn it back on, but that will delete *all* your restore points, not just the infected one(s). If there are some restore points that have been created since the malware was gotten rid of, you may want to keep those. So alternatively you can just wait for the infected point(s) to fall of the end of the chain--a maximum of 90 days. Note that that alternative may keep some non-infected restore points, but also requires care and good record-keeping to make sure you don't accidentally restore from an infected restore point. My personal preference is to keep the good restore points and be sure your record-keeping of which are infected is accurate. Quote: > If you are trying to use restore points to overcome a malware problem, the > forget it for the reason above. I second that motion-- very strongly. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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| | Re: System Restore doesn't work "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:khkh555umpmk0a2iolitm6209vvn494qta@xxxxxx Quote: > On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:42:10 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" > <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >> <rmo555@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:62ah555earrm6pi6e7p82uabgs2t4gl6ef@xxxxxx Quote: >> > System Restore will not restore my HP laptop to ANY point in the past. >> > I get a message which says it encountered an unspecified error (VISTA). >> > Also, I tried to access System Restore in safe mode and can't find it. >> > Can someone tell me what to try? My Device Manager doesn't indicate >> > any problems. Thanks. >> >> Malware often affects restore points, so if you have recently picked up >> malware and have taken steps to remove it, you may also have to disable >> restore points, then re-enable for the function to work again.. > > Any form of malware--whether spyware, virus, trojan, or anything > else--in a restore point is completely innocuous and can do nothing at > all *unless* you restore from that restore point. > > As you say, the only way to remove the malware from the restore > points is to turn off System Restore, then turn it back on, but that > will delete *all* your restore points, not just the infected one(s). > If there are some restore points that have been created since the > malware was gotten rid of, you may want to keep those. So > alternatively you can just wait for the infected point(s) to fall of > the end of the chain--a maximum of 90 days. Note that that alternative > may keep some non-infected restore points, but also requires care and > good record-keeping to make sure you don't accidentally restore from > an infected restore point. > > My personal preference is to keep the good restore points and be sure > your record-keeping of which are infected is accurate. > > Quote: >> If you are trying to use restore points to overcome a malware problem, >> the >> forget it for the reason above. > > > I second that motion-- very strongly. > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > Please Reply to the Newsgroup Ken The OP states that NO restore point is working. Malware doesn't always cobble the restore points themselves. In some cases, it is just the function that is lost , maybe the command redirected away from the function. Removing the ability and then re-instating it generally sets everything back to normal. In this case, the restore points are probably ok if only the OP could get to them. Malware which infiltrates restore points themselves will generally allow access to them in the knowledge that the host machine will be reinfected if any of them are run.. -- Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ |
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| | Re: System Restore doesn't work On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:23:27 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:khkh555umpmk0a2iolitm6209vvn494qta@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: > > Any form of malware--whether spyware, virus, trojan, or anything > > else--in a restore point is completely innocuous and can do nothing at > > all *unless* you restore from that restore point. > > > > As you say, the only way to remove the malware from the restore > > points is to turn off System Restore, then turn it back on, but that > > will delete *all* your restore points, not just the infected one(s). > > If there are some restore points that have been created since the > > malware was gotten rid of, you may want to keep those. So > > alternatively you can just wait for the infected point(s) to fall of > > the end of the chain--a maximum of 90 days. Note that that alternative > > may keep some non-infected restore points, but also requires care and > > good record-keeping to make sure you don't accidentally restore from > > an infected restore point. > > > > My personal preference is to keep the good restore points and be sure > > your record-keeping of which are infected is accurate. > > > > Quote: > >> If you are trying to use restore points to overcome a malware problem, > >> the > >> forget it for the reason above. > > > > > > I second that motion-- very strongly. > > > > -- > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > > Ken > > The OP states that NO restore point is working. Sorry, I missed that. Quote: > Malware doesn't always > cobble the restore points themselves. In some cases, it is just the function > that is lost , maybe the command redirected away from the function. Removing > the ability and then re-instating it generally sets everything back to > normal. OK. Thanks for the clarification. Quote: > In this case, the restore points are probably ok if only the OP could get to > them. Malware which infiltrates restore points themselves will generally > allow access to them in the knowledge that the host machine will be > reinfected if any of them are run.. > -- > > Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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| Vista home premium 32bit | Re: System Restore doesn't work System Restore will not restore my HP laptop to ANY point in the past. I get a message which says it encountered an unspecified error (VISTA). Also, I tried to access System Restore in safe mode and can't find it. Can someone tell me what to try? My Device Manager doesn't indicate any problems. Thanks. My first check would be to see whether you have any restore points. Open Command Prompt as administrator (you find Command Prompt in All Programs > Accessories). Then type VSSADMIN LIST SHADOWS (shadows are restore points). That should list the restore points by volume and date. |
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| | Re: System Restore doesn't work On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:13:54 -0500, whs <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote: Quote: > >rmo555;1086984 Wrote: Quote: >> System Restore will not restore my HP laptop to ANY point in the past. >> I get a message which says it encountered an unspecified error (VISTA). >> Also, I tried to access System Restore in safe mode and can't find it. >> Can someone tell me what to try? My Device Manager doesn't indicate >> any problems. Thanks. > >My first check would be to see whether you have any restore points. >Open Command Prompt as administrator (you find Command Prompt in All >Programs > Accessories). Then type VSSADMIN LIST SHADOWS (shadows are >restore points). That should list the restore points by volume and date. I found that all my restore points work from Safe Mode. Does that clue help anyone? They should work from Normal mode. I have no viruses or malware of any sort. No Device problems either. |
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| Vista home premium 32bit | Re: System Restore doesn't work If they work in safe mode, there is some process (in normal mode) that interferes with it. Very hard to tell though which one it is. The usual suspects are the startup programs which you could stop for a test. But it could be another process too. Since system restore does not give you a lot of clues, we are pretty helpless. For the above reasons I do not rely on the windows restore any more. I am using Norton Ghost for my system backups. But there are a lot of other good programs along the same line, especially Acronis. That may be something you could consider for the future. In this thread I have summarized the options a little while ago: Ghosting approaches - summary because of popular demand « How-To Geek Forums |
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| | Re: System Restore doesn't work On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:47:36 -0500, whs <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote: Quote: > >If they work in safe mode, there is some process (in normal mode) that >interferes with it. Very hard to tell though which one it is. The usual >suspects are the startup programs which you could stop for a test. But >it could be another process too. Since system restore does not give you >a lot of clues, we are pretty helpless. >For the above reasons I do not rely on the windows restore any more. I >am using Norton Ghost for my system backups. But there are a lot of >other good programs along the same line, especially Acronis. That may be >something you could consider for the future. In this thread I have >summarized the options a little while ago: 'Ghosting approaches - >summary because of popular demand « How-To Geek Forums' >(http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic...and?replies=46) |
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