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Old 08-01-2009   #1 (permalink)
MAT


 
 

64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/ is a list of
32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.

Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.

I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
64-bit Vista version.

According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use the
32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank since the
drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.

3 questions:
How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit and not
64-bit version?

Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit on the
same PC?

Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use programs with
32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and 64-bit
Vista?


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Old 08-01-2009   #2 (permalink)
Richard Urban


 
 

Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which does not
allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer (64 bit).

So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version of I.E.
you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install is corrupted
somehow.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/ is a list of
> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>
> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
> matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>
> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
> 64-bit Vista version.
>
> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use the
> 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank since the
> drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>
> 3 questions:
> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit and not
> 64-bit version?
>
> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit on the
> same PC?
>
> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use programs
> with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and 64-bit
> Vista?
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Old 08-01-2009   #3 (permalink)
MAT


 
 

Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Thanks for prompt answer:
I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista and see
if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new security code (to
the new PC).
I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player was
the issue.
Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista compatibility
page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/com...ayer&os=64-bit


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelelsen
news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
Quote:

> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which does not
> allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer (64 bit).
>
> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version of
> I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install is
> corrupted somehow.
>
> --
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/ is a list of
>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>
>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
>> matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>
>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
>> 64-bit Vista version.
>>
>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use
>> the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank since
>> the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>
>> 3 questions:
>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit and not
>> 64-bit version?
>>
>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit on the
>> same PC?
>>
>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use programs
>> with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>> 64-bit Vista?
>
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Old 08-01-2009   #4 (permalink)
Mike Hall - MVP


 
 

Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

"MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thanks for prompt answer:
> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista and
> see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new security
> code (to the new PC).
> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player was
> the issue.
> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista compatibility
> page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/com...ayer&os=64-bit
>
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which does
>> not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer (64
>> bit).
>>
>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version of
>> I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install is
>> corrupted somehow.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/ is a list of
>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>
>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
>>> matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>
>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
>>> 64-bit Vista version.
>>>
>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use
>>> the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank
>>> since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>
>>> 3 questions:
>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit and
>>> not 64-bit version?
>>>
>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit on
>>> the same PC?
>>>
>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use programs
>>> with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>
>

Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..

--

Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

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Old 08-01-2009   #5 (permalink)
Dominic Payer


 
 

Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs no
64-bit components.

Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
Player. See http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html


On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
Quote:

> "MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>> security code (to the new PC).
>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player
>> was the issue.
>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/com...ayer&os=64-bit
>>
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> skrev i
>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which
>>> does not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer
>>> (64 bit).
>>>
>>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version
>>> of I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install
>>> is corrupted somehow.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>
>>>
>>> "MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
>>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/ is a list of
>>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>>
>>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem
>>>> no matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>>
>>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including
>>>> the 64-bit Vista version.
>>>>
>>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to
>>>> use the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the
>>>> net-bank since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>>
>>>> 3 questions:
>>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit
>>>> and not 64-bit version?
>>>>
>>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit
>>>> on the same PC?
>>>>
>>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use
>>>> programs with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>>
>>
>
>
> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>
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Old 08-01-2009   #6 (permalink)


Vista home premium 32bit
 
 

Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Dominic Payer View Post
32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs no
64-bit components.

Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
Player. See Flash Player support on 64-bit operating systems


On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
Quote:
> "MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@xxxxxx
Quote:
>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>> security code (to the new PC).
>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player
>> was the issue.
>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/com...ayer&os=64-bit
>>
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> skrev i
>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
>>
>
>
> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>

Would it not be the easiest to use another browser - Chrome, Opera, Safari or FF.
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Old 08-01-2009   #7 (permalink)
Keith H


 
 

Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

MAT wrote:
Quote:

> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/ is a list of
> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>
> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem no
> matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>
> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including the
> 64-bit Vista version.
>
> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to use
> the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the net-bank
> since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>
You can install both 32-bit and 64-bit Java, this way javascript should work
regardless of the bit-ness of the browser..

Update Release Notes: http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/ReleaseNotes.html

Download @ http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

This will take you to where you can select Java SE Runtime Environment 6u14 (it
seems 6u15 has been pulled).. Select and download 'Windows' and 'Windowsx64'

~k
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Old 08-02-2009   #8 (permalink)
Poutnik


 
 

Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

In article <l4CdnXtqarjCY-nXnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@xxxxxx>, keherma.
@.epix.net says...
Quote:

>
> You can install both 32-bit and 64-bit Java, this way javascript should work
> regardless of the bit-ness of the browser..
>
It looks like common confusion.

Javascript as interpreted script language,
hosted either by browsers, either by Windows scripting host,
has nothing in common but name with Java and Java applets.

--
Poutnik
The best depends on how the best is defined.
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Old 08-02-2009   #9 (permalink)
Richard Urban


 
 

Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Yes it is. But read the following from the Adobe page you linked to:

Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Dominic Payer" <dcp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23YokHSsEKHA.4168@xxxxxx
Quote:

> 32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs no
> 64-bit components.
>
> Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
> Player. See http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html
>
>
> On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
Quote:

>> "MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
>> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>>> security code (to the new PC).
>>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player
>>> was the issue.
>>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/com...ayer&os=64-bit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> skrev i
>>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
>>>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>>>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which
>>>> does not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer
>>>> (64 bit).
>>>>
>>>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version
>>>> of I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install
>>>> is corrupted somehow.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
>>>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/ is a list of
>>>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem
>>>>> no matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including
>>>>> the 64-bit Vista version.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to
>>>>> use the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the
>>>>> net-bank since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3 questions:
>>>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit
>>>>> and not 64-bit version?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit
>>>>> on the same PC?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use
>>>>> programs with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>>
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Old 08-03-2009   #10 (permalink)
MAT


 
 

Re: 64-bit versus 32-bit Vista

Hi again:
According to this link to Adobe
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ Adobe Flash Player 10
released 7/30/09 is 64-bit compatible (4 days ago).
Version 10.0.32.18 is downloadable from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

The other link (mentioned earlier in this thread)
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html indicating that Adobe Flash
Player 10 is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser, was apparently
an old information last updated 2008-10-14.


"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> skrev i meddelelsen
news:%23X$zjC4EKHA.1340@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Yes it is. But read the following from the Adobe page you linked to:
>
> Adobe Flash Player is not supported for playback in a 64-bit browser.
>
> --
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "Dominic Payer" <dcp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23YokHSsEKHA.4168@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> 32-bit Flash Player 10 is compatible with 64-bit Windows - it needs no
>> 64-bit components.
>>
>> Sometime - unspecified - in the future there will be a 64-bit Flash
>> Player. See http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html
>>
>>
>> On 01/08/2009 16:56, Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
Quote:

>>> "MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ez$XvdrEKHA.4376@xxxxxx
>>>> Thanks for prompt answer:
>>>> I'll continue using the 32-bit version of IE8 using the 64-bit Vista
>>>> and see if I have access to my bank account when I receive my new
>>>> security code (to the new PC).
>>>> I didn't know that IE as standard was 32 bit and that the flash player
>>>> was the issue.
>>>> Concerning the flash player according to the Windows Vista
>>>> compatibility page Adobe Flash Player 9 and 10 are 64-bit compatible
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/com...ayer&os=64-bit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> skrev i
>>>> meddelelsen news:%23EiNgcqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
>>>>> The standard browser in 64 bit Vista IS a 32 bit program. You have to
>>>>> purposefully start the 64 bit version of Internet Explorer, which
>>>>> does not allow flash player to operate. It will say Internet Explorer
>>>>> (64 bit).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, if you can not access your banking site with the 32 bit version
>>>>> of I.E. you do not have Adobe Flash Player installed or the install
>>>>> is corrupted somehow.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "MAT" <non-exit@xxxxxx-exit.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23cMlyVqEKHA.4316@xxxxxx
>>>>>> On Windows Vista Compatibility Center
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/ is a list of
>>>>>> 32-bit/64-drivers and compatibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Non-compatible drivers to Vista 64-bit is apparently still a problem
>>>>>> no matter what is listed on the Windows Vista compatibility page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just bough a PC with the i7 Intel processor, 6 GB RAM including
>>>>>> the 64-bit Vista version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to my net-bank using Java from Sun Microsystem I have to
>>>>>> use the 32-bit version of Internet Explorer if I wanna use the
>>>>>> net-bank since the drivers are not compatible to the 64-bit version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3 questions:
>>>>>> How do I force the installation of Internet Explorer to be 32-bit
>>>>>> and not 64-bit version?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a trick to have both Internet Explorer 32- bit and 64-bit
>>>>>> on the same PC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I have to have another PC with 32-bit Vista if I wanna use
>>>>>> programs with 32-bit drivers not compatible to Vista 64-bit,
>>>>>> or is it possible to configure the PC to have both 32-bit Vista and
>>>>>> 64-bit Vista?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not according to Adobe.. just tried it here..
>>>
>
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