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08-03-2009   #1
KRK


 
 

guest account

Hello,

I seem to have a 'Guest' account on my pc. I don't remember creating it (I
am the only user of my pc) and I cannot seem to delete it. I've been through
Control Panel etc.

Any advice pls ?

Thanks

K


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08-03-2009   #2
Malke


 
 

Re: guest account

KRK wrote:
Quote:

> Hello,
>
> I seem to have a 'Guest' account on my pc. I don't remember creating it (I
> am the only user of my pc) and I cannot seem to delete it. I've been
> through Control Panel etc.
The Guest account is a special system account, not one meant for when you
are feeling hospitable. It is disabled by default in Windows XP, Vista,
Linux, Unix, and OS X for a reason. Leave it alone.

From TechNet:

"The Guest account is intended for users who require temporary access to the
system. However, if this account is enabled, a security risk may exist
because an unauthorized user could gain anonymous access to the system
through this account."

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...chNet.10).aspx

Since you posted in a Vista newsgroup and you mentioned that you only have
one user account, you should take a look at the general recommendations
below.

General Recommendations For Setting Up Users In Vista:

You absolutely do not want to have only one user account. Like XP and all
other modern operating systems, Vista is a multi-user operating system with
built-in system accounts such as Administrator, Default, All Users, and
Guest. These accounts should be left alone as they are part of the operating
system structure.

You particularly don't want only one user account with administrative
privileges on Vista because the built-in Administrator account (normally
only used in emergencies) is disabled by default. If you're running as
Administrator for your daily work and that account gets corrupted, things
will be Difficult. It isn't impossible to activate the built-in Administrator
to rescue things, but it will require third-party tools and working outside
the operating system.

The user account that is for your daily work should be a Standard user, with
the extra administrative user (call it something like "CompAdmin" or "Tech"
or the like) only there for elevation purposes. After you create
"CompAdmin", log into it and change your regular user account to Standard.
Then log back into your regular account.

If you want to go directly to the Desktop and skip the Welcome Screen with
the icons of user accounts, you can do this:

Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]
Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by
UAC

Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this
computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the
desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password
for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if
there is no password (null).

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

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08-03-2009   #3
Saucy


 
 

Re: guest account

Malke - doesn't UAC make moot the need to create both a Standard account
( e.g. MalkeFizzleBits ) and an Administrators account ( e.g. your
CompAdmin ) for oneself ??

[[I'm assuming a desktop computer at home in the workshop or den office.]]

So if one creates just one account - an Administrators group account for
oneself ( e.g. MalkeBlazingBits ) - with UAC it runs as if it were a
Standard account unless one explicitly allows requests for raised
privileges - best of both worlds in just one account ?

KRK - Malke's right, it's usually best to leave the built-in "Guest" and the
"Administrator" accounts alone.

Saucy


"Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#1hXOtDFKHA.1540@xxxxxx
Quote:

> KRK wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Hello,
>>
>> I seem to have a 'Guest' account on my pc. I don't remember creating it
>> (I
>> am the only user of my pc) and I cannot seem to delete it. I've been
>> through Control Panel etc.
>
> The Guest account is a special system account, not one meant for when you
> are feeling hospitable. It is disabled by default in Windows XP, Vista,
> Linux, Unix, and OS X for a reason. Leave it alone.
>
> From TechNet:
>
> "The Guest account is intended for users who require temporary access to
> the
> system. However, if this account is enabled, a security risk may exist
> because an unauthorized user could gain anonymous access to the system
> through this account."
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...chNet.10).aspx
>
> Since you posted in a Vista newsgroup and you mentioned that you only have
> one user account, you should take a look at the general recommendations
> below.
>
> General Recommendations For Setting Up Users In Vista:
>
> You absolutely do not want to have only one user account. Like XP and all
> other modern operating systems, Vista is a multi-user operating system
> with
> built-in system accounts such as Administrator, Default, All Users, and
> Guest. These accounts should be left alone as they are part of the
> operating
> system structure.
>
> You particularly don't want only one user account with administrative
> privileges on Vista because the built-in Administrator account (normally
> only used in emergencies) is disabled by default. If you're running as
> Administrator for your daily work and that account gets corrupted, things
> will be Difficult. It isn't impossible to activate the built-in
> Administrator
> to rescue things, but it will require third-party tools and working
> outside
> the operating system.
>
> The user account that is for your daily work should be a Standard user,
> with
> the extra administrative user (call it something like "CompAdmin" or
> "Tech"
> or the like) only there for elevation purposes. After you create
> "CompAdmin", log into it and change your regular user account to Standard.
> Then log back into your regular account.
>
> If you want to go directly to the Desktop and skip the Welcome Screen with
> the icons of user accounts, you can do this:
>
> Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]
> Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by
> UAC
>
> Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this
> computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on
> the
> desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct
> password
> for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if
> there is no password (null).
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
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08-03-2009   #4
Malke


 
 

Re: guest account

Saucy wrote:
Quote:

> Malke - doesn't UAC make moot the need to create both a Standard account
> ( e.g. MalkeFizzleBits ) and an Administrators account ( e.g. your
> CompAdmin ) for oneself ??
No.
Quote:

> [[I'm assuming a desktop computer at home in the workshop or den office.]]
Still no.
Quote:

> So if one creates just one account - an Administrators group account for
> oneself ( e.g. MalkeBlazingBits ) - with UAC it runs as if it were a
> Standard account unless one explicitly allows requests for raised
> privileges - best of both worlds in just one account ?
No. While Windows users are particularly vulnerable to malware, not
everything is about that. With only one administrative account that is being
used for daily work, you run the risk of account corruption. See repeat
below:
Quote:
Quote:

>> You particularly don't want only one user account with administrative
>> privileges on Vista because the built-in Administrator account (normally
>> only used in emergencies) is disabled by default. If you're running as
>> Administrator for your daily work and that account gets corrupted, things
>> will be Difficult. It isn't impossible to activate the built-in
>> Administrator to rescue things, but it will require third-party tools and
>>working outside the operating system.
And user accounts seem to get corrupted a lot in Vista. There's no way for
me to know why - malware, bad hardware, bad user practices, power outages,
etc. But it happens and it's stupid not to be prepared for it.
Quote:

> KRK - Malke's right, it's usually best to leave the built-in "Guest" and
> the "Administrator" accounts alone.
Yes.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

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08-03-2009   #5
Bill Daggett


 
 

Re: guest account

Malke <malke@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>And user accounts seem to get corrupted a lot in Vista. There's no way for
>me to know why - malware, bad hardware, bad user practices, power outages,
>etc. But it happens and it's stupid not to be prepared for it.
So far, I've not had that problem. I run with only one account - it's
an Admin account with no password - and with UAC off... but I have
plenty of backups - including a clone on another internal drive - that
I can fall back on should something go wrong.

Even my backup images - which are on yet another internal drive - have
backups... on an external drive ;-)
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08-05-2009   #6
Gordon


 
 

Re: guest account


"undisclosed" wrote in message
news:3571d0c2dace6dca3af8b6262a76d1c3@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> control panel---Management tools---computer management---local users and
> group---select the account name your want to delete and delete it
>
It can't be deleted AFAIK - it's a system account.

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08-05-2009   #7
KRK


 
 

Re: guest account - Thanks all

Thanks all

KK


"KRK" <trebor@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hello,
>
> I seem to have a 'Guest' account on my pc. I don't remember creating it (I
> am the only user of my pc) and I cannot seem to delete it. I've been
> through Control Panel etc.
>
> Any advice pls ?
>
> Thanks
>
> K
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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