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08-10-2009
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| | eSATA drive I've got an eSATA drive that I formatted NTFS on my XP installation. machine has removable drives & I run many OS's on the same machine. works fine on all (including Linux) *except* when I run Vista all updates including SP2 when I try to access drive it always comes up as unformatted... but if I schedule chdksk to run on it upon reboot...no problems found! What's the deal here? again, problem *only* occurs with Vista |
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08-10-2009
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| | Re: eSATA drive Hi, Philo. What does Disk Management say about that hard disk drive? You may need to "initialize" the "foreign disk". As I recall, there was a slight change in NTFS between WinXP and Vista, but I ran both side by side and it never was a problem. I've been running SATA drives for a few years, but never eSATA. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc@xxxxxx Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 "philo" <philo@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:h5qfl6$pc7$1@xxxxxx-september.org... Quote: > I've got an eSATA drive that I formatted NTFS on my XP installation. > > machine has removable drives & I run many OS's on the same machine. > > works fine on all (including Linux) *except* when I run Vista > > all updates including SP2 > > > when I try to access drive it always comes up as unformatted... > but if I schedule chdksk to run on it upon reboot...no problems found! > > > What's the deal here? > > again, problem *only* occurs with Vista |
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08-11-2009
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| | Re: eSATA drive R. C. White wrote: Quote: > Hi, Philo. > > What does Disk Management say about that hard disk drive? You may need > to "initialize" the "foreign disk". > > As I recall, there was a slight change in NTFS between WinXP and Vista, > but I ran both side by side and it never was a problem. I've been > running SATA drives for a few years, but never eSATA. > > RC Normally if an uninitialized disk is introduced into the system... the first time it's used, the message to initialize automatically pops up. I did not get that message...it appeared as one would normally expect in Windows explorer. When I tried to access the drive...it was then I got the message that the drive was not formatted. Never got to disk management as Windows explorer then locked up and I had to reboot the machine. Though I know Vista did change the way it performs an NTFS format, I've never had a problem before with Vista reading an XP or Win2k drive. As to eSATA there is no difference between an internal or external drive other than the external drive having it's own power |
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08-11-2009
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| | Re: eSATA drive Yes, it sounds quite peculiar to me, too. I have no idea what could be wrong; however, I would try two things: Use Disk Management to assign a drive letter after the other drives, say, 'S'. If that did not help: Use something like Acronis Disk Director to change the partition from 'Primary' to 'Extended'. Good lick. Tom "philo" <philo@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:h5qfl6$pc7$1@xxxxxx-september.org... Quote: > I've got an eSATA drive that I formatted NTFS on my XP installation. > > machine has removable drives & I run many OS's on the same machine. > > works fine on all (including Linux) *except* when I run Vista > > all updates including SP2 > > > when I try to access drive it always comes up as unformatted... > but if I schedule chdksk to run on it upon reboot...no problems found! > > > What's the deal here? > > again, problem *only* occurs with Vista |
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08-11-2009
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| | Re: eSATA drive Tom Ferguson wrote: Quote: > Yes, it sounds quite peculiar to me, too. > > I have no idea what could be wrong; however, I would try two things: > > Use Disk Management to assign a drive letter after the other drives, > say, 'S'. > > If that did not help: > Use something like Acronis Disk Director to change the partition from > 'Primary' to 'Extended'. > > Good lick. > Tom > > "philo" <philo@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:h5qfl6$pc7$1@xxxxxx-september.org... Quote: >> I've got an eSATA drive that I formatted NTFS on my XP installation. >> >> machine has removable drives & I run many OS's on the same machine. >> >> works fine on all (including Linux) *except* when I run Vista >> >> all updates including SP2 >> >> >> when I try to access drive it always comes up as unformatted... >> but if I schedule chdksk to run on it upon reboot...no problems found! >> >> >> What's the deal here? >> >> again, problem *only* occurs with Vista Thanks for the reply but I assure you I am not going to fool with a drive with that much data on it...even though I do have several backups |
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08-11-2009
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| | Re: eSATA drive <snip< Quote: Quote: >> >> I use mainly Linux now... >> but as someone who does a lot of computer repair work...I feel sort of >> obligated to run all the different operating systems I can get my hands >> on...so that if someone is having a problem I can boot to the same OS >> they are using and give them the best help. >> >> However...Don't think I'll be giving much Vista help if I cannot get my >> own system 100% working! LOL > I couldn't wait to get rid of Vista. I now have Windows 7 RTM and have > installed it on my machines. Runs well and it seems to be solid. I think > Microsoft got it right this time. > I still don't have all the bugs out of my Vista installation and now there is another OS to deal with. so far, the only non-server version of Windows I don't have installed somewhere is ME (and Win7) Beleive it or not, I have a 286 stashed away that has Windows1 ,2 and 3.0 on it! |
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09-16-2009
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| | RE: eSATA drive problem "philo" wrote: Quote: > I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation. > > Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine) > > I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive > as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?" > Quote: > Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the > drive and lost all their data. > try formatting the drive with Vista? Quote: > Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive, > Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up. > > CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors > > but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop. > > > I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday. > > Problem was identical! > |
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09-16-2009
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| | Re: eSATA drive problem Mark Adams wrote: Quote: > > "philo" wrote: > Quote: >> I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation. >> >> Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine) >> >> I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive >> as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?" >> > Did you try formatting the drive with Vista? > Quote: >> Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the >> drive and lost all their data. >> > You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. Did you > try formatting the drive with Vista? > Quote: >> Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive, >> Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up. >> >> CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors >> >> but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop. >> >> >> I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday. >> >> Problem was identical! >> > Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7? No I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it... (sheesh) |
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09-16-2009
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| | Re: eSATA drive problem On 9/16/09, the entity philo wrote this: Quote: > Mark Adams wrote: Quote: >> >> "philo" wrote: >> Quote: >>> I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation. >>> >>> Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine) >>> >>> I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive as >>> unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?" >>> >> Did you try formatting the drive with Vista? >> Quote: >>> Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the >>> drive and lost all their data. >>> >> You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. Did you >> try formatting the drive with Vista? >> Quote: >>> Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive, >>> Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up. >>> >>> CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors >>> >>> but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop. >>> >>> >>> I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday. >>> >>> Problem was identical! >>> >> Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7? Quote: > No Quote: > I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it... Quote: > (sheesh) that XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have experienced - no problems the other way. Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe you should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason to think that the eSATA port is healthy? Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS that particular HD was formatted on. -- Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com |
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09-16-2009
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| | Re: eSATA drive problem Gene E. Bloch wrote: Quote: > On 9/16/09, the entity philo wrote this: Quote: >> Mark Adams wrote: Quote: >>> >>> "philo" wrote: >>> >>>> I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation. >>>> >>>> Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine) >>>> >>>> I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA >>>> drive as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this >>>> drive?" >>>> >>> >>> Did you try formatting the drive with Vista? >>> >>>> Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted >>>> the drive and lost all their data. >>>> >>> >>> You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. >>> Did you try formatting the drive with Vista? >>> >>>> Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive, >>>> Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up. >>>> >>>> CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors >>>> >>>> but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop. >>>> >>>> >>>> I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday. >>>> >>>> Problem was identical! >>>> >>> >>> Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7? > Quote: >> No Quote: >> I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it... Quote: >> (sheesh) > I have read that Vista and 7 have available a slightly modified NTFS > that XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have experienced - > no problems the other way. > > Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe > you should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason to > think that the eSATA port is healthy? > > Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS that > particular HD was formatted on. > The eSATA port is healthy as I experience no problems with XP or Linux. I know that NTFS has been modified slightly but my Vista installation is an XP upgrade, so the drive that Vista is on has not been re-formated with the "new" NTFS The weirdest part is that Vista and Win7 can run CHKDSK on the eSATA drive and no problems are found |
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