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Old 08-11-2009   #1 (permalink)
Don84


 
 

Windows Installer

Could you pls check if your Vista has Windows Installer installed? two
places in registry to look for it,
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
or
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
Components

use regedit to access registry info (be careful not change anything!).

thanks.

Reasons I'm asking this question:
a) I don't have a vista os box myself;
b) I'd like to see if most of the vista boxes out there has windows
installer installed already
and if yes, which version has the most installed base.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-12-2009   #2 (permalink)
Malke


 
 

Re: Windows Installer

Don84 wrote:
Quote:

> Could you pls check if your Vista has Windows Installer installed? two
> places in registry to look for it,
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
> or
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
> Components
>
> use regedit to access registry info (be careful not change anything!).
>
> thanks.
>
> Reasons I'm asking this question:
> a) I don't have a vista os box myself;
> b) I'd like to see if most of the vista boxes out there has windows
> installer installed already
> and if yes, which version has the most installed base.
Of course Vista has the Windows Installer. If you don't have Vista, then why
are you asking this question?

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

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Old 08-12-2009   #3 (permalink)
Don84


 
 

Re: Windows Installer

On Aug 12, 8:41*am, Malke <ma...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> Don84 wrote:
Quote:

> > Could you pls check if your Vista has Windows Installer installed? two
> > places in registry to look for it,
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
> > or
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
> > Components
>
Quote:

> > use regedit to access registry info (be careful not change anything!).
>
Quote:

> > thanks.
>
Quote:

> > Reasons I'm asking this question:
> > a) I don't have a vista os box myself;
> > b) I'd like to see if most of the vista boxes out there has windows
> > installer installed already
> > and if yes, which version has the most installed base.
>
> Of course Vista has the Windows Installer. If you don't have Vista, then why
> are you asking this question?
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
Because I have a software package which bundles sql server 2005
express sp3 that users reports problem installing it onto Vista boxes
while it seems ok with XP. And I think Windows Installer of a given
Vista plays a critical role in such sql server installation. thks for
your time.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-12-2009   #4 (permalink)
Malke


 
 

Re: Windows Installer

Don84 wrote:
Quote:

> Because I have a software package which bundles sql server 2005
> express sp3 that users reports problem installing it onto Vista boxes
> while it seems ok with XP. And I think Windows Installer of a given
> Vista plays a critical role in such sql server installation. thks for
> your time.
It might be the Windows Installer but it is far likelier that your package
is trying to write to areas of the system that are protected in Vista which
aren't protected in XP or even to areas that don't exist in Vista. If you
are the developer, you might get focused help by posting in a developer's
newsgroup or even start with one of the SQL server newsgroups instead of
here in Vista General.

http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-12-2009   #5 (permalink)
Don84


 
 

Re: Windows Installer

On Aug 12, 12:05*pm, Malke <ma...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> Don84 wrote:
Quote:

> > Because I have a software package which bundles sql server 2005
> > express sp3 that users reports problem installing it onto Vista boxes
> > while it seems ok with XP. *And I think Windows Installer of a given
> > Vista plays a critical role in such sql server installation. *thks for
> > your time.
>
> It might be the Windows Installer but it is far likelier that your package
> is trying to write to areas of the system that are protected in Vista which
> aren't protected in XP or even to areas that don't exist in Vista. If you
> are the developer, you might get focused help by posting in a developer's
> newsgroup or even start with one of the SQL server newsgroups instead of
> here in Vista General.
>
> http://aumha.org/nntp.htm- list of MS newsgroups
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
My installer doesn't do much, it won't write anything to anywhere
except creating a few log files in current directories and user is
required to login as Administrator, and if Vista won't even allow
admin to create a few simple files it sucks (sorry for the language
but you get the sentiment). Then the installer is looking for
WindowsInstaller-KB893803-v2-x86.exe (which seemed to work Vista even
for sql server 2005 express sp3 installation several months ago), if
not found to be installed and it's vista os then detect and/or install
Windows6.0-KB942288-
v2-x86.msu

I find something is very wrong with MS SQL Group on this issue of
installing sql server 2005 express sp3 to vista os or MS Windows
Update Group, and if the problem is intentional (you won't think of it
but entirely possible considering so many bad corporate heads are
being uncovered in recent months... I could be wrong and wish so on
this...)

On most relevant ng for this issue, MS controlled ones, my original
posts are often changed and not seem truly helpful.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-13-2009   #6 (permalink)
Malke


 
 

Re: Windows Installer

Don84 wrote:

Quote:

> My installer doesn't do much, it won't write anything to anywhere
> except creating a few log files in current directories and user is
> required to login as Administrator, and if Vista won't even allow
> admin to create a few simple files it sucks (sorry for the language
> but you get the sentiment). Then the installer is looking for
> WindowsInstaller-KB893803-v2-x86.exe (which seemed to work Vista even
> for sql server 2005 express sp3 installation several months ago), if
> not found to be installed and it's vista os then detect and/or install
> Windows6.0-KB942288-
> v2-x86.msu
>
> I find something is very wrong with MS SQL Group on this issue of
> installing sql server 2005 express sp3 to vista os or MS Windows
> Update Group, and if the problem is intentional (you won't think of it
> but entirely possible considering so many bad corporate heads are
> being uncovered in recent months... I could be wrong and wish so on
> this...)
>
> On most relevant ng for this issue, MS controlled ones, my original
> posts are often changed and not seem truly helpful.
Sorry but I can't address any of your comments. I know nothing about
programming except that a well-written program for any grown-up operating
system (XP, Vista, Win7, Linux, Unix, OS X) does *not* require a user to log
in as Administrator to install it. I can't remember the last time I logged
into one of my Linux systems as root (if ever) and root is disabled by
default in OS X just like it is in Vista/Win7. So something is apparently
wrong in the way you've written your program but only another programmer
would be able to help with that. Look on the MSDN forums perhaps.

I also can't address any of your comments about SQL Server since I've only
installed it a few times for clients. I don't see how your "original posts
are often changed" statement could be true since this is Usenet and these
groups are not moderated, but since I'm not going to spend any time on
researching I'll pass on that too.

I'm sorry I was unable to help you. EOT for me since I have nothing further
to add.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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