Vista - Windows 7: to upgrade or fresh install?

08-13-2009

Hi,

I currently have Vista Ultimate x64 with all the latest updates.
I also have Windows 7 x64, (Ultimate).

Would you suggest a fresh install or can I upgrade my current system?
Obviously I would much rather upgrade my current system.

Thanks

Simon

08-13-2009

"Simon" <bad@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eGtUBG$GKHA.4376@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I currently have Vista Ultimate x64 with all the latest updates.
> I also have Windows 7 x64, (Ultimate).
>
> Would you suggest a fresh install or can I upgrade my current system?
> Obviously I would much rather upgrade my current system.
>
> Thanks
>
> Simon

I cant hurt to try the upgrade since you will still have the option to do a
clean install if you don't like the result. The reasons for doing a clean
install of Windows prior to Vista don't apply to Vista and W7. Vista and W7
installations are always clean installations of the OS regardless of whether
you choose the upgrade option or not since the installations are from images
and no longer done by file copying.

08-13-2009

Simon wrote:

Quote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I currently have Vista Ultimate x64 with all the latest updates.
> I also have Windows 7 x64, (Ultimate).
>
> Would you suggest a fresh install or can I upgrade my current system?
> Obviously I would much rather upgrade my current system.
>
> Thanks
>
> Simon

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-do...ows-7-upgrade/

08-13-2009

Hi,

I will suggest to perform a clean install simply because I like to do it
right first time.

If your upgrade install failed, you sure can try a clean install. But if
everything being equal and your clean install is failed, there is no way for
an upgrade install will succeed. And one still needs to take time to check
if everything is ok after a successful upgrade which can be a long and
complicated process.

So, I prefer to do it right the first time without taking unnecessary
chances.

My two cents for your considerations.

"Simon" <bad@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eGtUBG$GKHA.4376@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I currently have Vista Ultimate x64 with all the latest updates.
> I also have Windows 7 x64, (Ultimate).
>
> Would you suggest a fresh install or can I upgrade my current system?
> Obviously I would much rather upgrade my current system.
>
> Thanks
>
> Simon

09-16-2009

"undisclosed" wrote in message
news:aeff28566eca025c6ea319afdbf3b061@newsgroup-gateway.com...

Quote:

>
> Agreed.

What is? Please QUOTE the post you are replying to. The vast majority of
users of this group are using a news reader and are NOT subscribed to
whatever gateway you are using to post.

09-18-2009

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:12:25 -0700, "xfile" <coucou@newsgroup> wrote:

Quote:

>> Why? Please provide a rational, technical justification for this
>> assertion.

>
>Read my original post, if you could.
>

Quote:

>> Granted, some people will always blindly recommend that one always perform
>> a clean installation, rather than upgrade over an earlier OS.

>
>Speaking of "blindly", you have been blindly telling people about replacing
>a M/B will "void" warranty based on your one-time experience of which you
>couldn't even name the vendor.
>
>And now, you are "blindly" telling people about to use upgrade installations
>instead of considering a clean install.
>
>Maybe you are not familiar with or aware of the concept of "do it right the
>first time", and maybe you enjoy doing/fixing computer problems all the time
>either for your work or hobby, but it's your incompetence and ignorance and
>please keep it to yourself; on the other hand, many of us prefer to do thing
>right the first time.
>

Quote:

>> Certainly, there are times when an in-place upgrade is
>> contra-indicated:
>>
>> 1) When the underlying hardware isn't certified as being fully compatible
>> with the newer OS, and/or updated device drivers are not available from
>> the device's manufacturer. Of course, this condition also causes problems
>> with clean installations.
>>
>> 2) When the original OS is corrupt, damaged, and/or virus/malware
>> infested. I've also seen simple, straight-forward upgrades from WinXP
>> Home to WinXP Pro fail because the computer owner had let the system
>> become malware-infested. Upgrading over a problematic OS isn't normally a
>> wise course to establishing a stable installation.
>>
>> 3) When the new OS isn't designed to properly, correctly, and safely
>> perform an upgrade.

>
>If one meets all of the above, can you guarantee that all computers will not
>have any problems during and after an upgrade installation? If so, I would
>like to see your "evidence" so you are not talking "blindly"?
>
>If there were some minor problems after an upgrade installation even when
>the program is said to be compatible (e.g. FrontPage will crash only when
>inserting hyperlinks, Outlook 2002(?) cannot remember passwords, etc.), do
>you know how much time would be needed in order for a support or user to
>locate the problem because the problem may not be immediately noticed or
>surfaced?
>
>As I said, if a clean installed is failed, there is no way for an upgrade
>install to succeed, so why waste time on taking an unnecessary chance?
>Besides, with a clean install, one gets to test each hardware/application
>when it is being installed so the problem can be immediately indentified.
>

Quote:

>> Additionally, since Vista's and Win7's upgrade "mechanism" differ widely
>> from that of earlier operating systems, why would you think that the same
>> "old wives' tales" would apply?

>
>The mechanism only helps improve success rate but cannot guarantee it.

Well said x-file... I won't add to your overall post except to note
that Bruce likes to counter real world knowledge with MS marketing
propaganda.

08-13-2009	#1 (permalink)
Simon n/a posts	Windows 7: to upgrade or fresh install? Hi, I currently have Vista Ultimate x64 with all the latest updates. I also have Windows 7 x64, (Ultimate). Would you suggest a fresh install or can I upgrade my current system? Obviously I would much rather upgrade my current system. Thanks Simon
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08-13-2009	#2 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst n/a posts	Re: Windows 7: to upgrade or fresh install? "Simon" <bad@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eGtUBG$GKHA.4376@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi, > > I currently have Vista Ultimate x64 with all the latest updates. > I also have Windows 7 x64, (Ultimate). > > Would you suggest a fresh install or can I upgrade my current system? > Obviously I would much rather upgrade my current system. > > Thanks > > Simon I cant hurt to try the upgrade since you will still have the option to do a clean install if you don't like the result. The reasons for doing a clean install of Windows prior to Vista don't apply to Vista and W7. Vista and W7 installations are always clean installations of the OS regardless of whether you choose the upgrade option or not since the installations are from images and no longer done by file copying.
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08-13-2009	#3 (permalink)
philo n/a posts	Re: Windows 7: to upgrade or fresh install? Simon wrote: Quote: > > Hi, > > I currently have Vista Ultimate x64 with all the latest updates. > I also have Windows 7 x64, (Ultimate). > > Would you suggest a fresh install or can I upgrade my current system? > Obviously I would much rather upgrade my current system. > > Thanks > > Simon http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-do...ows-7-upgrade/
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08-13-2009	#4 (permalink)
xfile n/a posts	Re: Windows 7: to upgrade or fresh install? Hi, I will suggest to perform a clean install simply because I like to do it right first time. If your upgrade install failed, you sure can try a clean install. But if everything being equal and your clean install is failed, there is no way for an upgrade install will succeed. And one still needs to take time to check if everything is ok after a successful upgrade which can be a long and complicated process. So, I prefer to do it right the first time without taking unnecessary chances. My two cents for your considerations. "Simon" <bad@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eGtUBG$GKHA.4376@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi, > > I currently have Vista Ultimate x64 with all the latest updates. > I also have Windows 7 x64, (Ultimate). > > Would you suggest a fresh install or can I upgrade my current system? > Obviously I would much rather upgrade my current system. > > Thanks > > Simon
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09-16-2009	#5 (permalink)
Gordon n/a posts	Re: Windows 7: to upgrade or fresh install? "undisclosed" wrote in message news:aeff28566eca025c6ea319afdbf3b061@newsgroup-gateway.com... Quote: > > Agreed. What is? Please QUOTE the post you are replying to. The vast majority of users of this group are using a news reader and are NOT subscribed to whatever gateway you are using to post.
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09-18-2009	#6 (permalink)
+Bob+ n/a posts	Re: Windows 7: to upgrade or fresh install? On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:12:25 -0700, "xfile" <coucou@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: Quote: >> Why? Please provide a rational, technical justification for this >> assertion. > >Read my original post, if you could. > Quote: >> Granted, some people will always blindly recommend that one always perform >> a clean installation, rather than upgrade over an earlier OS. > >Speaking of "blindly", you have been blindly telling people about replacing >a M/B will "void" warranty based on your one-time experience of which you >couldn't even name the vendor. > >And now, you are "blindly" telling people about to use upgrade installations >instead of considering a clean install. > >Maybe you are not familiar with or aware of the concept of "do it right the >first time", and maybe you enjoy doing/fixing computer problems all the time >either for your work or hobby, but it's your incompetence and ignorance and >please keep it to yourself; on the other hand, many of us prefer to do thing >right the first time. > Quote: >> Certainly, there are times when an in-place upgrade is >> contra-indicated: >> >> 1) When the underlying hardware isn't certified as being fully compatible >> with the newer OS, and/or updated device drivers are not available from >> the device's manufacturer. Of course, this condition also causes problems >> with clean installations. >> >> 2) When the original OS is corrupt, damaged, and/or virus/malware >> infested. I've also seen simple, straight-forward upgrades from WinXP >> Home to WinXP Pro fail because the computer owner had let the system >> become malware-infested. Upgrading over a problematic OS isn't normally a >> wise course to establishing a stable installation. >> >> 3) When the new OS isn't designed to properly, correctly, and safely >> perform an upgrade. > >If one meets all of the above, can you guarantee that all computers will not >have any problems during and after an upgrade installation? If so, I would >like to see your "evidence" so you are not talking "blindly"? > >If there were some minor problems after an upgrade installation even when >the program is said to be compatible (e.g. FrontPage will crash only when >inserting hyperlinks, Outlook 2002(?) cannot remember passwords, etc.), do >you know how much time would be needed in order for a support or user to >locate the problem because the problem may not be immediately noticed or >surfaced? > >As I said, if a clean installed is failed, there is no way for an upgrade >install to succeed, so why waste time on taking an unnecessary chance? >Besides, with a clean install, one gets to test each hardware/application >when it is being installed so the problem can be immediately indentified. > Quote: >> Additionally, since Vista's and Win7's upgrade "mechanism" differ widely >> from that of earlier operating systems, why would you think that the same >> "old wives' tales" would apply? > >The mechanism only helps improve success rate but cannot guarantee it. Well said x-file... I won't add to your overall post except to note that Bruce likes to counter real world knowledge with MS marketing propaganda.
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