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When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

  1. #1


    Sbaitso Guest

    When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    Just had this pop up yesterday for no reason that I have been able to figure
    out:

    "To use all Microsoft Windows(R) features, such as all updates from Windows
    Update; get the latest updates; and receive product support, your copy of
    Microsoft Windows(R) must be validated as genuine."

    There's a hyperlink attached that takes me to the WGA site
    (www.microsoft.com/genuine), which I would like to say is completely useless.

    Thus far, I've gone to the above site and used the "Validate Windows" link
    which results in:

    "Windows Validation Error
    "[0x80080250]
    "Unknown error encountered during Windows validation. The validation service
    is unable to determine whether your copy of Windows is genuine. Please
    validate again. If additional attempts result in validation errors you may
    want to try again later."

    With my right hand on my original, mint-condition Windows 95 CD, I swear
    that I am using my own key which I received from Microsoft on this one and
    only computer. I've not done anything to intentionally aggrivate WGA, so
    might someone have seen this or know what has caused it?

    Much thanks in advance!

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  2. #2


    Jack Guest

    Re: When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    have you tried later???????

    "Sbaitso" <Sbaitso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:90580F69-F220-46F4-88E7-B92B0F8A50B4@microsoft.com...
    > Just had this pop up yesterday for no reason that I have been able to
    > figure
    > out:
    >
    > "To use all Microsoft Windows(R) features, such as all updates from
    > Windows
    > Update; get the latest updates; and receive product support, your copy of
    > Microsoft Windows(R) must be validated as genuine."
    >
    > There's a hyperlink attached that takes me to the WGA site
    > (www.microsoft.com/genuine), which I would like to say is completely
    > useless.
    >
    > Thus far, I've gone to the above site and used the "Validate Windows" link
    > which results in:
    >
    > "Windows Validation Error
    > "[0x80080250]
    > "Unknown error encountered during Windows validation. The validation
    > service
    > is unable to determine whether your copy of Windows is genuine. Please
    > validate again. If additional attempts result in validation errors you may
    > want to try again later."
    >
    > With my right hand on my original, mint-condition Windows 95 CD, I swear
    > that I am using my own key which I received from Microsoft on this one and
    > only computer. I've not done anything to intentionally aggrivate WGA, so
    > might someone have seen this or know what has caused it?
    >
    > Much thanks in advance!




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  3. #3


    Alias Guest

    Re: When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    Jack wrote:
    > have you tried later???????


    Probably but why should he have to wait in order to continue using
    something he lawfully paid for?

    Alias
    >
    > "Sbaitso" <Sbaitso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:90580F69-F220-46F4-88E7-B92B0F8A50B4@microsoft.com...
    >> Just had this pop up yesterday for no reason that I have been able to
    >> figure
    >> out:
    >>
    >> "To use all Microsoft Windows(R) features, such as all updates from
    >> Windows
    >> Update; get the latest updates; and receive product support, your copy of
    >> Microsoft Windows(R) must be validated as genuine."
    >>
    >> There's a hyperlink attached that takes me to the WGA site
    >> (www.microsoft.com/genuine), which I would like to say is completely
    >> useless.
    >>
    >> Thus far, I've gone to the above site and used the "Validate Windows" link
    >> which results in:
    >>
    >> "Windows Validation Error
    >> "[0x80080250]
    >> "Unknown error encountered during Windows validation. The validation
    >> service
    >> is unable to determine whether your copy of Windows is genuine. Please
    >> validate again. If additional attempts result in validation errors you may
    >> want to try again later."
    >>
    >> With my right hand on my original, mint-condition Windows 95 CD, I swear
    >> that I am using my own key which I received from Microsoft on this one and
    >> only computer. I've not done anything to intentionally aggrivate WGA, so
    >> might someone have seen this or know what has caused it?
    >>
    >> Much thanks in advance!

    >
    >


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  4. #4


    Jeff Guest

    Re: When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    Alias wrote:
    > Jack wrote:
    >> have you tried later???????

    >
    > Probably but why should he have to wait in order to continue using
    > something he lawfully paid for?
    >
    > Alias
    >>
    >> "Sbaitso" <Sbaitso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:90580F69-F220-46F4-88E7-B92B0F8A50B4@microsoft.com...
    >>> Just had this pop up yesterday for no reason that I have been able to
    >>> figure
    >>> out:
    >>>
    >>> "To use all Microsoft Windows(R) features, such as all updates from
    >>> Windows
    >>> Update; get the latest updates; and receive product support, your
    >>> copy of
    >>> Microsoft Windows(R) must be validated as genuine."
    >>>
    >>> There's a hyperlink attached that takes me to the WGA site
    >>> (www.microsoft.com/genuine), which I would like to say is completely
    >>> useless.
    >>>
    >>> Thus far, I've gone to the above site and used the "Validate Windows"
    >>> link
    >>> which results in:
    >>>
    >>> "Windows Validation Error
    >>> "[0x80080250]
    >>> "Unknown error encountered during Windows validation. The validation
    >>> service
    >>> is unable to determine whether your copy of Windows is genuine. Please
    >>> validate again. If additional attempts result in validation errors
    >>> you may
    >>> want to try again later."
    >>>
    >>> With my right hand on my original, mint-condition Windows 95 CD, I swear
    >>> that I am using my own key which I received from Microsoft on this
    >>> one and
    >>> only computer. I've not done anything to intentionally aggrivate
    >>> WGA, so
    >>> might someone have seen this or know what has caused it?
    >>>
    >>> Much thanks in advance!

    >>
    >>

    Yup,
    And people think SPP is o.k. by them!! LOL-until it happens to them;
    like the poor poster; who got hassled through no fault of his own.

    Jeff

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  5. #5


    Larry Maturo Guest

    Re: When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    Hi,

    I had the same thing happen in XP. I had to pay MS Tech Support $30.00 to
    get them
    to help me fix it. It only took about 3 days of trying different things
    before it started working
    again. Nice thing is that in XP it only stops you from getting updates, but
    in Vista it will
    eventually prevent you from using your computer if you don't pay MS to get
    it fixed. Whenever
    they need money all they need to do is stop the validation from working and
    let the cash roll in.
    If you install Vista, they can hold you hostage and demand a ransom.

    -- Larry Maturo


    "Sbaitso" <Sbaitso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:90580F69-F220-46F4-88E7-B92B0F8A50B4@microsoft.com...
    > Just had this pop up yesterday for no reason that I have been able to
    > figure
    > out:
    >
    > "To use all Microsoft Windows(R) features, such as all updates from
    > Windows
    > Update; get the latest updates; and receive product support, your copy of
    > Microsoft Windows(R) must be validated as genuine."
    >
    > There's a hyperlink attached that takes me to the WGA site
    > (www.microsoft.com/genuine), which I would like to say is completely
    > useless.
    >
    > Thus far, I've gone to the above site and used the "Validate Windows" link
    > which results in:
    >
    > "Windows Validation Error
    > "[0x80080250]
    > "Unknown error encountered during Windows validation. The validation
    > service
    > is unable to determine whether your copy of Windows is genuine. Please
    > validate again. If additional attempts result in validation errors you may
    > want to try again later."
    >
    > With my right hand on my original, mint-condition Windows 95 CD, I swear
    > that I am using my own key which I received from Microsoft on this one and
    > only computer. I've not done anything to intentionally aggrivate WGA, so
    > might someone have seen this or know what has caused it?
    >
    > Much thanks in advance!




      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #6


    Nina DiBoy Guest

    Re: When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    Larry Maturo wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > I had the same thing happen in XP. I had to pay MS Tech Support $30.00 to
    > get them
    > to help me fix it. It only took about 3 days of trying different things
    > before it started working
    > again. Nice thing is that in XP it only stops you from getting updates, but
    > in Vista it will
    > eventually prevent you from using your computer if you don't pay MS to get
    > it fixed. Whenever
    > they need money all they need to do is stop the validation from working and
    > let the cash roll in.
    > If you install Vista, they can hold you hostage and demand a ransom.
    >
    > -- Larry Maturo
    >


    Reminds of the virus that went around holding people's personal files
    for ransom!

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #7


    Sbaitso Guest

    RE: When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    Good evening everyone!

    Just thought I'd let you know that the issue is still there. I've tried
    about 10 times over the past 48 hours with the exact same response.

    For the record, I've always been weary about WGA and the advanced
    protections in Vista, but for free, I guess I can't complain too much. I
    suppose I am soon to find out the wrath of a Vista unvalidated and will be
    glad to post back with whatever happens. Hopefully this will serve as enough
    of a warning to others, or at least a guide about what to expect when WGA
    turns on you.

    Thus far, I've been seeing the annoying dialog box at least twice a day. As
    far as functionality is concerned, I don't seem to be able to access any of
    the Control Panel portions of the system. If I go Start -> Control Panel, a
    window flashes by, but is quickly closed before I can see what it is. Trying
    to access the Control Panel through My Computer results in the "Control
    Panel" link reverting the selection back to whatever was highlighted
    previously. Thus far, I have been able to expand the Control Panel link
    under My Computer, allowing me access to at least some of the Control Panel.
    (sshhhh.... Don't tell Microsoft)

    For the time being, I have not been rebooting or logging off (only locking
    the screen), for fear that I may not be allowed back in. But I guess if
    Vista wants me off bad enough, I'll get the boot soon enough.

    The strange thing about all of this is that I hesitated to activate
    (thinking that I might end up loading Vista on my other PC, thus not wanting
    to waste this license). However, when it told me that I had 24 hours to
    activate (around the two week mark), I activated and was told that all was
    well. I wonder what happened....

    Microsoft? Are you listening?

    P.S. "Have you tried later?" It has been my experience that whenever
    something says to try later, it just means that something is screwed up and
    no one botherred to write a good error message. :-) I promise I'll keep
    trying though!

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  8. #8


    xfile Guest

    Re: When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    Hi,

    Thanks for sharing.


    "Sbaitso" <Sbaitso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:54C51ABE-C545-46F9-AA54-9AB60644C3DF@microsoft.com...
    > Good evening everyone!
    >
    > Just thought I'd let you know that the issue is still there. I've tried
    > about 10 times over the past 48 hours with the exact same response.
    >
    > For the record, I've always been weary about WGA and the advanced
    > protections in Vista, but for free, I guess I can't complain too much. I
    > suppose I am soon to find out the wrath of a Vista unvalidated and will be
    > glad to post back with whatever happens. Hopefully this will serve as
    > enough
    > of a warning to others, or at least a guide about what to expect when WGA
    > turns on you.
    >
    > Thus far, I've been seeing the annoying dialog box at least twice a day.
    > As
    > far as functionality is concerned, I don't seem to be able to access any
    > of
    > the Control Panel portions of the system. If I go Start -> Control Panel,
    > a
    > window flashes by, but is quickly closed before I can see what it is.
    > Trying
    > to access the Control Panel through My Computer results in the "Control
    > Panel" link reverting the selection back to whatever was highlighted
    > previously. Thus far, I have been able to expand the Control Panel link
    > under My Computer, allowing me access to at least some of the Control
    > Panel.
    > (sshhhh.... Don't tell Microsoft)
    >
    > For the time being, I have not been rebooting or logging off (only
    > locking
    > the screen), for fear that I may not be allowed back in. But I guess if
    > Vista wants me off bad enough, I'll get the boot soon enough.
    >
    > The strange thing about all of this is that I hesitated to activate
    > (thinking that I might end up loading Vista on my other PC, thus not
    > wanting
    > to waste this license). However, when it told me that I had 24 hours to
    > activate (around the two week mark), I activated and was told that all was
    > well. I wonder what happened....
    >
    > Microsoft? Are you listening?
    >
    > P.S. "Have you tried later?" It has been my experience that whenever
    > something says to try later, it just means that something is screwed up
    > and
    > no one botherred to write a good error message. :-) I promise I'll keep
    > trying though!




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  9. #9


    Bones Guest

    Re: When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    There is no charge for tech support from MS regarding WGA issues. Also the
    regular charge for a support incident is $35 and has been for several years
    now.

    If you actually were charged then it was a mistake on the part of the CSR.


    "Larry Maturo" wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I had the same thing happen in XP. I had to pay MS Tech Support $30.00 to
    > get them
    > to help me fix it. It only took about 3 days of trying different things
    > before it started working
    > again. Nice thing is that in XP it only stops you from getting updates, but
    > in Vista it will
    > eventually prevent you from using your computer if you don't pay MS to get
    > it fixed. Whenever
    > they need money all they need to do is stop the validation from working and
    > let the cash roll in.
    > If you install Vista, they can hold you hostage and demand a ransom.
    >
    > -- Larry Maturo
    >
    >
    > "Sbaitso" <Sbaitso@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:90580F69-F220-46F4-88E7-B92B0F8A50B4@microsoft.com...
    > > Just had this pop up yesterday for no reason that I have been able to
    > > figure
    > > out:
    > >
    > > "To use all Microsoft Windows(R) features, such as all updates from
    > > Windows
    > > Update; get the latest updates; and receive product support, your copy of
    > > Microsoft Windows(R) must be validated as genuine."
    > >
    > > There's a hyperlink attached that takes me to the WGA site
    > > (www.microsoft.com/genuine), which I would like to say is completely
    > > useless.
    > >
    > > Thus far, I've gone to the above site and used the "Validate Windows" link
    > > which results in:
    > >
    > > "Windows Validation Error
    > > "[0x80080250]
    > > "Unknown error encountered during Windows validation. The validation
    > > service
    > > is unable to determine whether your copy of Windows is genuine. Please
    > > validate again. If additional attempts result in validation errors you may
    > > want to try again later."
    > >
    > > With my right hand on my original, mint-condition Windows 95 CD, I swear
    > > that I am using my own key which I received from Microsoft on this one and
    > > only computer. I've not done anything to intentionally aggrivate WGA, so
    > > might someone have seen this or know what has caused it?
    > >
    > > Much thanks in advance!

    >
    >
    >


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  10. #10


    Sbaitso Guest

    RE: When WGA attacks: "Optional update delivery is not working"

    Captains log. T-Plus 3 days after the initial attack.

    Reports show a total of six offensives by WGA/SPP. Our engineers came up
    with an elaborate plan consisting of reversing some of their previous work in
    Vista Services. According to their superiors, an enemy combanant known only
    as the "Software Licensing" service was demoted to "Manual".

    Upon reinstatement from Manual to Automatic, the enemy has made no advances.
    appearances of the message have been reduced to zero, however the Control
    Panel still will not load. Perhaps this is the work of another enemy which
    simply utilized the timing of the WGA/SPP attack as a distraction. I have
    some of my best men and women researching that aspect of the offensive as I
    write this report.

    For now, I'm ordering a stand down of the troops, however please remain
    alert. Remember, keeping SPP and WGA in check is everyone's responsibility.

    Command out.

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