Vista - Transferring OutlookExpress Files From XP To Vista and Windows7 ?

Hello,

Expect to get a new PC as soon as te new ones come out with Windows7
installed in late Oct.
Presently using OE 6 and XP.

Trying to learn about some of this now, though.
Imagine the transferring problem is the same for Vista as it will be for
Windows7 probably.

I guess I will be forced to use Windows Live rather than OE with Windows7
My needs are simple, and OE has done everything I require, but I understand
that Windows Live is a pretty basic one also.

Is it possible to transfer all my saved OE Folder files like SENT, etc. from
OE to
Windows Live (easily) ?

Read a brief mention that if you go to OE/ TOOLS/ OPTIONS/ MAINT. there is
"some" way of creating a folder with all the stuff you want to transfer, and
then loading it into WindowsLive.

A bit on in years now, so please bear with me.

Is this the (best and easiest) way to do it, or... ?

Any specifics and details would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
B.

Hi, Robert.
My first name also is Robert, and I turned 74 in July. Maybe I can help.
;<)

First the ground rules:
WinXP comes with OE, which will not run on any Windows version after WinXP.
Vista comes with Windows Mail (WM), which will not run on any Windows
Version except Vista.
Microsoft has announced - in about 2006 - that neither OE nor WM will be
developed any further.

Windows 7 comes with NO email or newsgroup application at all.
OE won't run on Win7.
WM won't run on Win7. (Well, a few experts have done it, but it is not for
"us mere mortals").

The Windows Live suite was introduced about 3 years ago, but became popular
just this year. It includes a half-dozen or more components, including
Mail, Messenger, Write, Calendar, Contacts, Movie Maker - and maybe a couple
I've forgotten; all their names start with "Windows Live". We generally
refer to Windows Live Mail as "WLM" - or "WLMail" when we need to
distinguish it from WLMessenger.

Windows Live Mail (the word "desktop" was removed from the name of the
program over 2 years ago) will run in WinXP, Vista and Win7. It does not
come included in any of those, but can be downloaded (along with any other
Live components we want) from http://download/live.com and installed in any
of them.

WLM is like OE in many ways, but there are significant differences, too.
One major difference is in the way they store messages. OE stores messages
in .dbx files that OE calls "folders". There is one Folders.dbx which acts
as the index for all the others. The others have names that you create,
such as "Family.dbx". If you get 1,000 emails from your kids, they might
all be in Family.dbx; a single corrupted byte in any one of those mails
might cost you the whole folder. WLM will store those emails as 1,000
separate files, each with a cryptic long numeric name and the .eml
extension. If one file is corrupted, you will lose only that one message.
Because of this basic difference, OE and WLM cannot share message stores;
other consequences flow from this as well.

WLM will run "side by side" with either OE (in WinXP) or WM (in Vista), and
many of us used that technique to ease the transition to WLM. You can, if
you like, download WLM now and install it in your WinXP. It will
automatically Import and Convert your OE Accounts and messages (and hide -
but not delete - your shortcuts to OE). You can set both OE and WLM to
"leave messages on the server"; that's the default setting in WLM, but you
will want to set ONE of them to delete messages after a reasonable time (14
days) to keep your mailbox on the server from getting full and blocking
further incoming mail. Use both apps for a few days or weeks until you are
familiar with WLM. When you are ready, just stop using OE (you can't delete
it) and let WLM become your only mail/news client.

Then, when you transition to Win7 (or Vista), you can use WET (Windows Easy
Transfer - included with both Vista and Win7) to export all your WLM and
other settings from WinXP to a temporary holding area, and then import them
into WLM after you install it on your new Windows.

Just remember that a few OE (and WM) store folders do NOT get duplicated
automatically when you run OE/WM and WLM side by side. Sent Items, in
particular, will reside only in the app that sent those items, so you will
need to export/import that folder from your OE in addition to all the
messages that are duplicated in OE's Store Folders and WLM's Message Store.
You MAY want to also carry forward OE's Drafts, Junk and Deleted items
folders, which won't be handled automatically.

So you can choose between two transition paths from WinXP to Win7:
1. Download and install WLM into WinXP now and transition to it in WinXP.
After you get WLM installed into Win7, use WET to transfer your files and
settings from WLM to WLM.

2. Wait until Win7 arrives and you've downloaded and installed WLM. Then
use WET to transfer your files and settings from OE to WLM.

If you have questions, just ask. Or visit this newsgroup (which still has
"desktop" in its name because it's hard to change newsgroup names):
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...e.mail.desktop

Good luck! I think you'll like Windows Live Mail - and that you will LOVE
Windows 7. ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Robert11" <rgsros@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:h8de6n$qm7$1@xxxxxx-september.org...

On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:01:30 -0400, "Robert11" <rgsros@xxxxxx>
wrote:

Read RC White's excellent reply to you. I want to add just a single
point:

There are many available e-mail programs beside the ones you and RC
mentioned. My personal favorite is Microsoft Outlook (which is not
Outlook Express) which can be bought either by itself or as part of
Microsoft Office. There are lots of other third-party choices, some of
which are free, and others which have a free trial period. Almost all
of these programs will let you use your saved Outlook Express info.

So you might want to download and try some of the free or shareware
programs to see which ones meet your own personal needs the best. You
will likely get recommendations on some of these from others, but my
advice is basically to disregard recommendations for programs like
these. That's because we all work differently and do different kinds
of things, so features that are important to me may be unimportant to
you, and vice-versa.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

"Robert11" <rgsros@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:h8de6n$qm7$1@xxxxxx-september.org...My name isn't Robert, however if like me you have a number of e-mail
addresses but used the single communal Inbox in OE(XP) and WM(Vista) and
then archived messages by sender/organisation/company etc rather than by
account, you will find Live Mail a pain with its mutiple inboxes etc.
I've gone back to Windows Mail from Live Mail for its convenience and
simplicity. And for oddballs like me who run in Windows Classic mode
the Live apps don't comply and appear as the flat Vista style.

That is a comprehensive overview from RCW !

Tom

"R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23S6HqLvMKHA.3588@xxxxxxGoogle Toolbar:
HTTP 404 - File not found
Oops! This *link* appears to be broken.

It should be http://download.live.com


--
Thomas Wendell
Helsinki, Finland
Translations to/from FI not always accurate



"Valorie McLaughlin" <ValMcL@xxxxxx> kirjoitti
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Hi, Thomas.

Thanks for the correction. ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Thomas Wendell" <tumppiw_nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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