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09-18-2009

" Vista was 'less good'
A Microsoft exec has noted that having 'bad products' can hurt your market
share.
By Stuart Turton, 17 Sep 2009 at 09:47

A Microsoft exec has admitted that "Vista was a less good product", as the
launch of Windows 7 looms.
The oddly phrased comment came during an investor webcast, when Charles
Songhurst, Microsoft's general manager of corporate strategy, was asked how
Vista had affected the company's fortunes.

"What people underestimate is the importance of good or bad products," said
Songhurst. "And sometimes your products are good, sometimes the products are
bad. And I think Vista was a less good product for Microsoft." "

http://www.itpro.co.uk/615247/micros...-was-less-good

09-18-2009

> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from

Quote:

> other language he knows. English influenced many
> languages as much as they effected English...-

))

Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it.
Of course you were making a joke, right? Right???

Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good:
A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with.
Never verbify a noun.
Don't split an infinitive up.
Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable.
Likewise you're and your.
Always spell it like it sounds, Example:
"I could of gone." Never mind that it should be
could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of"
so spell it that way.
Right or not, always use "I" as in:
"Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie."
Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple
to remember and always use "I".

09-19-2009

"Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:CAF8BD7F-EE5F-4A13-9DB4-868AB3AFAD3F@newsgroup

Quote:

>> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
>> other language he knows. English influenced many
>> languages as much as they effected English...-

))

>
> Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
> Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it.
> Of course you were making a joke, right? Right???
>
> Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good:
> A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with.
> Never verbify a noun.
> Don't split an infinitive up.
> Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable.
> Likewise you're and your.
> Always spell it like it sounds, Example:
> "I could of gone." Never mind that it should be
> could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of"
> so spell it that way.
> Right or not, always use "I" as in:
> "Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie."
> Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple
> to remember and always use "I".
>

Not forgetting "I got it for free"!

09-19-2009

"Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:CAF8BD7F-EE5F-4A13-9DB4-868AB3AFAD3F@newsgroup

Quote:

>> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
>> other language he knows. English influenced many
>> languages as much as they effected English...-

))

>
> Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
> Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it.
> Of course you were making a joke, right? Right???
>
> Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good:
> A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with.
> Never verbify a noun.
> Don't split an infinitive up.
> Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable.
> Likewise you're and your.
> Always spell it like it sounds, Example:
> "I could of gone." Never mind that it should be
> could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of"
> so spell it that way.
> Right or not, always use "I" as in:
> "Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie."
> Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple
> to remember and always use "I".
>

These are rule even corporate business takes to heart. Just read the
company emails I get!

Also, to and too are interchangeable. There is so much more . . .

But, seriously, "Could of" is really "could have" which is what "could've"
could be the contraction for.

John

09-19-2009

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:46:00 -0400, "Tom Lake"
<toml_12953@newsgroup> wrote:

Quote:

> > Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
> > other language he knows. English influenced many
> > languages as much as they effected English...-

))

>
> Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb.

Not entirely, but almost always. The noun "affect" is rare and mostly
obsolete, but *does* exist.

Quote:

> Effect is a noun.

Not entirely, but usually. The verb "effect," which means "to bring
about," is not particularly common, but is much more common than the
noun "affect."

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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09-18-2009	#1 (permalink)
Jdr n/a posts	At last - it's official ... " Vista was 'less good' A Microsoft exec has noted that having 'bad products' can hurt your market share. By Stuart Turton, 17 Sep 2009 at 09:47 A Microsoft exec has admitted that "Vista was a less good product", as the launch of Windows 7 looms. The oddly phrased comment came during an investor webcast, when Charles Songhurst, Microsoft's general manager of corporate strategy, was asked how Vista had affected the company's fortunes. "What people underestimate is the importance of good or bad products," said Songhurst. "And sometimes your products are good, sometimes the products are bad. And I think Vista was a less good product for Microsoft." " http://www.itpro.co.uk/615247/micros...-was-less-good
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09-18-2009	#2 (permalink)
Tom Lake n/a posts	Re: At last - it's official ... > Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from Quote: > other language he knows. English influenced many > languages as much as they effected English...-)) Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun. Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it. Of course you were making a joke, right? Right??? Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good: A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with. Never verbify a noun. Don't split an infinitive up. Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable. Likewise you're and your. Always spell it like it sounds, Example: "I could of gone." Never mind that it should be could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of" so spell it that way. Right or not, always use "I" as in: "Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie." Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple to remember and always use "I".
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09-19-2009	#3 (permalink)
Gordon n/a posts	Re: At last - it's official ... "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> wrote in message news:CAF8BD7F-EE5F-4A13-9DB4-868AB3AFAD3F@newsgroup Quote: Quote: >> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from >> other language he knows. English influenced many >> languages as much as they effected English...-)) > > Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun. > Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it. > Of course you were making a joke, right? Right??? > > Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good: > A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with. > Never verbify a noun. > Don't split an infinitive up. > Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable. > Likewise you're and your. > Always spell it like it sounds, Example: > "I could of gone." Never mind that it should be > could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of" > so spell it that way. > Right or not, always use "I" as in: > "Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie." > Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple > to remember and always use "I". > Not forgetting "I got it for free"!
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09-19-2009	#4 (permalink)
John J n/a posts	Re: At last - it's official ... "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> wrote in message news:CAF8BD7F-EE5F-4A13-9DB4-868AB3AFAD3F@newsgroup Quote: Quote: >> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from >> other language he knows. English influenced many >> languages as much as they effected English...-)) > > Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun. > Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it. > Of course you were making a joke, right? Right??? > > Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good: > A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with. > Never verbify a noun. > Don't split an infinitive up. > Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable. > Likewise you're and your. > Always spell it like it sounds, Example: > "I could of gone." Never mind that it should be > could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of" > so spell it that way. > Right or not, always use "I" as in: > "Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie." > Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple > to remember and always use "I". > These are rule even corporate business takes to heart. Just read the company emails I get! Also, to and too are interchangeable. There is so much more . . . But, seriously, "Could of" is really "could have" which is what "could've" could be the contraction for. John
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09-19-2009	#5 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP n/a posts	Re: At last - it's official ... On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:46:00 -0400, "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: Quote: > > Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from > > other language he knows. English influenced many > > languages as much as they effected English...-)) > > Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Not entirely, but almost always. The noun "affect" is rare and mostly obsolete, but does exist. Quote: > Effect is a noun. Not entirely, but usually. The verb "effect," which means "to bring about," is not particularly common, but is much more common than the noun "affect." -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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