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Old 10-20-2009   #1 (permalink)
Eustace


 
 

Permissions

When I try to run QuickTime I get an Error #-2095 alert. When I click
Run As Administrator it opens OK.

I am the owner and sole user of the computer!

How do a give full permissions to myself?

I tried going to the program file, opening properties and then the
Permissions tab. There are 3 entries in the top window:

SYSTEM
Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Adminstrators)
Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)

When I click the last, in the lower window I see checked only Read &
Execute and Read, not Full control and the others.

I clicked Edit, and added checkmarks to everything (except Special
Permissions that I can't).

I click OK and return to the former dialog, but the permissions for
Users have not changed.

When I click Advanced I see 4 lines. Lines 2 and 3 are System and
Administrator. Lines 1 and 4 are:

Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Full Control <not inherited>
Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Read & Execute C:\Program Files\

Is the second line necessary?

If I highlight it and click Edit and then highlight it again and click
Edit, check Full control, OK, the dialog closes and in the first dialog
the line 1 is highlighted and line 4 is the same.

What should I do?

Thanks,

Eustace

--
It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html

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Old 10-20-2009   #2 (permalink)


Vista Bussiness x64 PL
 
 

Re: Permissions

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Eustace View Post
When I try to run QuickTime I get an Error #-2095 alert. When I click
Run As Administrator it opens OK.

I am the owner and sole user of the computer!

How do a give full permissions to myself?

I tried going to the program file, opening properties and then the
Permissions tab. There are 3 entries in the top window:

SYSTEM
Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Adminstrators)
Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)

When I click the last, in the lower window I see checked only Read &
Execute and Read, not Full control and the others.

I clicked Edit, and added checkmarks to everything (except Special
Permissions that I can't).

I click OK and return to the former dialog, but the permissions for
Users have not changed.

When I click Advanced I see 4 lines. Lines 2 and 3 are System and
Administrator. Lines 1 and 4 are:

Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Full Control <not inherited>
Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Read & Execute C:\Program Files\

Is the second line necessary?

If I highlight it and click Edit and then highlight it again and click
Edit, check Full control, OK, the dialog closes and in the first dialog
the line 1 is highlighted and line 4 is the same.

What should I do?

Thanks,

Eustace

--
It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
For whole folder where QuickTime is stored give Users group MODIFY right
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Old 10-20-2009   #3 (permalink)
Kerry Brown


 
 

Re: Permissions

It may be a registry key permission that is causing the problem.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....1164&tstart=30

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Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/


"Eustace" <emfril@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:uaM1iWUUKHA.220@newsgroup
Quote:

> When I try to run QuickTime I get an Error #-2095 alert. When I click Run
> As Administrator it opens OK.
>
> I am the owner and sole user of the computer!
>
> How do a give full permissions to myself?
>
> I tried going to the program file, opening properties and then the
> Permissions tab. There are 3 entries in the top window:
>
> SYSTEM
> Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Adminstrators)
> Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
>
> When I click the last, in the lower window I see checked only Read &
> Execute and Read, not Full control and the others.
>
> I clicked Edit, and added checkmarks to everything (except Special
> Permissions that I can't).
>
> I click OK and return to the former dialog, but the permissions for Users
> have not changed.
>
> When I click Advanced I see 4 lines. Lines 2 and 3 are System and
> Administrator. Lines 1 and 4 are:
>
> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Full Control <not inherited>
> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Read & Execute C:\Program Files\
>
> Is the second line necessary?
>
> If I highlight it and click Edit and then highlight it again and click
> Edit, check Full control, OK, the dialog closes and in the first dialog
> the line 1 is highlighted and line 4 is the same.
>
> What should I do?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eustace
>
> --
> It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
> https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-20-2009   #4 (permalink)
Eustace


 
 

Re: Permissions

On 2009-10-20 03:28 Flavius wrote:
Quote:

> Eustace;1172338 Wrote:
Quote:

>> When I try to run QuickTime I get an Error #-2095 alert. When I click
>> Run As Administrator it opens OK.
>>
>> I am the owner and sole user of the computer!
>>
>> How do a give full permissions to myself?
>>
>> I tried going to the program file, opening properties and then the
>> Permissions tab. There are 3 entries in the top window:
>>
>> SYSTEM
>> Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Adminstrators)
>> Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
>>
>> When I click the last, in the lower window I see checked only Read &
>> Execute and Read, not Full control and the others.
>>
>> I clicked Edit, and added checkmarks to everything (except Special
>> Permissions that I can't).
>>
>> I click OK and return to the former dialog, but the permissions for
>> Users have not changed.
>>
>> When I click Advanced I see 4 lines. Lines 2 and 3 are System and
>> Administrator. Lines 1 and 4 are:
>>
>> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Full Control <not inherited>
>> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Read & Execute C:\Program Files\
>>
>> Is the second line necessary?
>>
>> If I highlight it and click Edit and then highlight it again and click
>> Edit, check Full control, OK, the dialog closes and in the first dialog
>> the line 1 is highlighted and line 4 is the same.
>>
>> What should I do?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eustace
>>
>> --
>> It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
>> https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
>
> For whole folder where QuickTime is stored give Users group MODIFY
> right
I see in the list of Group of User names the following:

CREATOR OWNER
SYSTEM
Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Administrator)
Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
TrustedInstaller

I checked Modify in Users but it didn't work...

Any other ideas?

emf

--
It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-20-2009   #5 (permalink)
Eustace


 
 

Re: Permissions

On 2009-10-20 08:54 Kerry Brown wrote:
Quote:

> It may be a registry key permission that is causing the problem.
>
> http://discussions.apple.com/thread....1164&tstart=30
I had seem that thread before posting here, but I do not think it
applies to my case: there is no problem with assigning permissions to
other users. Let's see:

When in the Registry I highlight QuickTime and click Edit > Permissions,
there are 4 groups/users in the list:

CREATOR/OWNER
SYSTEM
Administrator...
Users...

I have added Full Control to the Users (me). No effect.

Anything else?

emf

--
It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-20-2009   #6 (permalink)
Dave-UK


 
 

Re: Permissions


"Eustace" <emfril@newsgroup> wrote in message news:e43efxZUKHA.4592@newsgroup
Quote:

> On 2009-10-20 08:54 Kerry Brown wrote:
Quote:

>> It may be a registry key permission that is causing the problem.
>>
>> http://discussions.apple.com/thread....1164&tstart=30
>
> I had seem that thread before posting here, but I do not think it
> applies to my case: there is no problem with assigning permissions to
> other users. Let's see:
>
> When in the Registry I highlight QuickTime and click Edit > Permissions,
> there are 4 groups/users in the list:
>
> CREATOR/OWNER
> SYSTEM
> Administrator...
> Users...
>
> I have added Full Control to the Users (me). No effect.
>
> Anything else?
>
> emf
>
Try uninstalling Quicktime and installing again, only this time right-click
the install exe and select ' Run as administrator'.


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Old 10-20-2009   #7 (permalink)


Vista Bussiness x64 PL
 
 

Re: Permissions

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Eustace View Post
On 2009-10-20 03:28 Flavius wrote:
Quote:

> Eustace;1172338 Wrote:
Quote:

>> When I try to run QuickTime I get an Error #-2095 alert. When I click
>> Run As Administrator it opens OK.
>>
>> I am the owner and sole user of the computer!
>>
>> How do a give full permissions to myself?
>>
>> I tried going to the program file, opening properties and then the
>> Permissions tab. There are 3 entries in the top window:
>>
>> SYSTEM
>> Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Adminstrators)
>> Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
>>
>> When I click the last, in the lower window I see checked only Read &
>> Execute and Read, not Full control and the others.
>>
>> I clicked Edit, and added checkmarks to everything (except Special
>> Permissions that I can't).
>>
>> I click OK and return to the former dialog, but the permissions for
>> Users have not changed.
>>
>> When I click Advanced I see 4 lines. Lines 2 and 3 are System and
>> Administrator. Lines 1 and 4 are:
>>
>> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Full Control <not inherited>
>> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Read & Execute C:\Program Files\
>>
>> Is the second line necessary?
>>
>> If I highlight it and click Edit and then highlight it again and click
>> Edit, check Full control, OK, the dialog closes and in the first dialog
>> the line 1 is highlighted and line 4 is the same.
>>
>> What should I do?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eustace
>>
>> --
>> It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
>> https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
>
> For whole folder where QuickTime is stored give Users group MODIFY
> right
I see in the list of Group of User names the following:

CREATOR OWNER
SYSTEM
Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Administrator)
Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
TrustedInstaller

I checked Modify in Users but it didn't work...

Any other ideas?

emf

--
It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
Use Process Monitor Process Monitor

to diagnose issue with permissions
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-20-2009   #8 (permalink)
Jim


 
 

Re: Permissions


"Eustace" <emfril@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:OP$VchZUKHA.4360@newsgroup
Quote:

> On 2009-10-20 03:28 Flavius wrote:
Quote:

>> Eustace;1172338 Wrote:
Quote:

>>> When I try to run QuickTime I get an Error #-2095 alert. When I click
>>> Run As Administrator it opens OK.
>>>
>>> I am the owner and sole user of the computer!
>>>
>>> How do a give full permissions to myself?
>>>
>>> I tried going to the program file, opening properties and then the
>>> Permissions tab. There are 3 entries in the top window:
>>>
>>> SYSTEM
>>> Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Adminstrators)
>>> Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
>>>
>>> When I click the last, in the lower window I see checked only Read &
>>> Execute and Read, not Full control and the others.
>>>
>>> I clicked Edit, and added checkmarks to everything (except Special
>>> Permissions that I can't).
>>>
>>> I click OK and return to the former dialog, but the permissions for
>>> Users have not changed.
>>>
>>> When I click Advanced I see 4 lines. Lines 2 and 3 are System and
>>> Administrator. Lines 1 and 4 are:
>>>
>>> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Full Control <not inherited>
>>> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Read & Execute C:\Program Files\
>>>
>>> Is the second line necessary?
>>>
>>> If I highlight it and click Edit and then highlight it again and click
>>> Edit, check Full control, OK, the dialog closes and in the first dialog
>>> the line 1 is highlighted and line 4 is the same.
>>>
>>> What should I do?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eustace
>>>
>>> --
>>> It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
>>> https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
>>
>> For whole folder where QuickTime is stored give Users group MODIFY
>> right
>
> I see in the list of Group of User names the following:
>
> CREATOR OWNER
> SYSTEM
> Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Administrator)
> Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
> TrustedInstaller
>
> I checked Modify in Users but it didn't work...
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> emf
>
> --
> It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
> https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
Are the boxes by any change grey? If so, then the permissions are inherited
and can only be changed by an administrator.

An administrator changes permissions by selecting the "advanced permissions"
box. This brings up a menu of special permissions (which give finer
control) and it also include the box which disables inherited permissions.
Then you revert back to the original permissions page and give your user
level account full control.
As an aside, it is ill advised to use the built in administrator account for
any purpose other than emergency repair. Just create another member of the
administrators group for every day tasks.
It is also strange that the user names do not include NETWORK_SERVICE and
LOCAL_SERVICE. Windows uses these two accounts to start programs which do
not need full permissions.

Jim



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Old 10-20-2009   #9 (permalink)
Dave-UK


 
 

Re: Permissions


"Flavius" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message news:01d38697b0362bfd4f1511bca0bdf777@newsgroup-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Eustace;1172580 Wrote:
Quote:

>> On 2009-10-20 03:28 Flavius wrote:> > >
Quote:

>> > > Eustace;1172338 Wrote:> > > > >
>> > > >> When I try to run QuickTime I get an Error #-2095 alert. When I
>> > > click
>> > > >> Run As Administrator it opens OK.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I am the owner and sole user of the computer!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> How do a give full permissions to myself?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I tried going to the program file, opening properties and then the
>> > > >> Permissions tab. There are 3 entries in the top window:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> SYSTEM
>> > > >> Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Adminstrators)
>> > > >> Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
>> > > >>
>> > > >> When I click the last, in the lower window I see checked only Read &
>> > > >> Execute and Read, not Full control and the others.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I clicked Edit, and added checkmarks to everything (except Special
>> > > >> Permissions that I can't).
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I click OK and return to the former dialog, but the permissions for
>> > > >> Users have not changed.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> When I click Advanced I see 4 lines. Lines 2 and 3 are System and
>> > > >> Administrator. Lines 1 and 4 are:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Full Control <not inherited>
>> > > >> Allow Users (EUSTACE PC\Users) Read & Execute C:\Program Files\
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Is the second line necessary?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> If I highlight it and click Edit and then highlight it again and
>> > > click
>> > > >> Edit, check Full control, OK, the dialog closes and in the first
>> > > dialog
>> > > >> the line 1 is highlighted and line 4 is the same.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> What should I do?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Thanks,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Eustace
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
>> > > >> https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/itaintmebabe/itaintme.html> > > > >
>> > > For whole folder where QuickTime is stored give Users group
>> > MODIFY
>> > > right > > I see in the list of Group of User names the following:
>>
>> CREATOR OWNER
>> SYSTEM
>> Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Administrator)
>> Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
>> TrustedInstaller
>>
>> I checked Modify in Users but it didn't work...
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> emf
>>
>> --
>> It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
>> https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
>
> Use Process Monitor 'Process Monitor'
> (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896645.aspx)
>
> to diagnose issue with permissions
>
>
> --
> Flavius
Can you give a bit more detail about how you use Process Monitor to report file permission problems ?
I have played around with Process Monitor and have never seen that feature explained anywhere.
Thanks.




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Old 10-21-2009   #10 (permalink)


Vista Bussiness x64 PL
 
 

Re: Permissions

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Dave-UK View Post
"Flavius" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message news:01d38697b0362bfd4f1511bca0bdf777@newsgroup-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Eustace;1172580 Wrote:
Quote:

>> On 2009-10-20 03:28 Flavius wrote:> > >
>>
>> CREATOR OWNER
>> SYSTEM
>> Administrator (EUSTACE PC\Administrator)
>> Users (EUSTACE PC\Users)
>> TrustedInstaller
>>
>> I checked Modify in Users but it didn't work...
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> emf
>>
>> --
>> It ain't THAT, babe! - A radical reinterpretation
>> https://files.nyu.edu/emf202/public/.../itaintme.html
>
> Use Process Monitor 'Process Monitor'
> (Process Monitor)
>
> to diagnose issue with permissions
>
>
> --
> Flavius
Can you give a bit more detail about how you use Process Monitor to report file permission problems ?
I have played around with Process Monitor and have never seen that feature explained anywhere.
Thanks.
1.Run Process Monitor
2.Do action where you suspect trouble with permissions (in this thread -run Quick Time)
3.In PM go to filter tab and add filter RESULT is ACCESS DENIED (click ADD and next APPLY bottons)
(images below)

Please also note in practice the only few of alerts which PM report are truly alerts.There is no golden rule to differentiate false and true alerts - you have to check manualy.When you'll eliminate truly alerts,false alerts disappear in PM as well -dominoes effect
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