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Vista can't see the network
  1. #1


    Saga Guest

    Vista can't see the network

    I am helping out a friend with her computer. It has Vista x64 SP1. The
    computer had been infected by some malicious software and it did not boot at
    all. After some tinkering I managed to get into safe mode and run MBAM. The
    computer eventually booted, but had no desktop. I went into the Task manager
    and saw that there was no Explorer process, so I started it and al was well.
    I then booted from the OS disc included with the PC, got into the repair
    screen that had sustem restore and restored the PC to a date before it got
    infected. This worked well and now the PC boot into Vista without any
    problems. I ran an antivirus and MBAM and neither detected any malware.



    I thought all was well until I tried to connect to the Internet. I have
    cable service, a modem connected to a router and the PCs connected to the
    router. The Vista installation would not see anything out there, I tinkered
    and managed to get a message that said that there was "limited connectivity
    available". I figured that the LAN card's driver had been corrupted so I
    downloaded the driver and installed it. The installation was successful, but
    the problem persisted. I then went into Dev. manager and went into the
    card's properties. The status comment indicated that the device was working
    correctly. I noticed that there was another LAN device under the Network. It
    was the MS 6to 4 Adapter and there was anexclamation point next to it. I
    went into its properties and the remark indicated code 31.

    I did not know what this 6 to 4 adapter was so I investigated. It seems that
    it is only a translator so that IPv6 can work with IPv4. So this took me
    back to the card's properties to see what protocols were binded to it. Lo
    and behold, it had both IP4 and IP6. I figured that the problem with the
    adapter could be fixed by uninstalling it and then reinstaling it. I
    proceeded to do this, but found that I could not re-install the 6 to 4
    adapter. I went into Dev. Manager, used the Add legacy hardware option and
    the process went well and finished successfully, but the adapter never
    reappeared in dev. manager. After trying to clean the registry and not being
    able to solve this problem I figured I could do a repair installation as I
    have done with Win XP, but this option was not readily available within the
    Vista setup process. After doing some research, it seems that an upgrade
    install could solve my problem. I proceeded with it. All went well until it
    got to the Completing upgrade stage. It seemed that the PC was frozen.
    Hopeful, I left it running all night. In the morning there was a message
    indicating that the upgrade had failed and that the previous install would
    be restored. Although it took some time, Vista was restored. Since the
    install DVD had Vista SP1, I figured that perhaps SP2 had been installed (I
    was not even sure there was an SP2!). I check the system's properties which
    indicated that it was Vista SP1, so I have no idea why the upgrade install
    failed, unless it only works with previous versions of Windows, which does
    not make sense since this DVD is supposed to be used to restore a damaged
    installation.

    I examined the hard drive and found that it has a recovery partition. I
    tried to explore that partition to locate some information and/or executable
    that would start the recovery, but the partition was not accessible, saying
    that it was being protected by PC angel. I did some research on the 'net but
    was not able to find anything. I then went into system restore and went back
    to a restore point before I uninstalled the 6 to 4 MS adapter. I was not
    able to locate any information that told me how to solve this problem. I
    started to suspect the hardware, thinking that it could be the LAN adapter,
    so I booted the PC with a linux distro and tested. It connected perfectly to
    the Internet and I was able to navigate to different Web sites. It was
    confirned, this is a Windows Vista problem.

    I also searched for the 6to 4 adapter and found some download sites, but
    most were dated around 2004 and decided to not take that path. So now, after
    all this background, my question is: what can I do to solve this
    connectivity problem? While the 6 to 4 adapter was uninstalled I unchecked
    the IPv6 protocol in the card's properties, but this did not have any
    effect. Any ideas or suggestions are greatly appreciated, as I have tried
    everything I could think of and now need a different pair of eyes on this.
    Perhaps I am missing a simple solution. Thank you for reading this long
    post. Hopefully I have provided enough info so that some one can suggest
    something. Best wishes to all! Saga



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  2. #2


    Charlie Tame Guest

    Re: Vista can't see the network

    Saga wrote:

    > I am helping out a friend with her computer. It has Vista x64 SP1. The
    > computer had been infected by some malicious software and it did not boot at
    > all. After some tinkering I managed to get into safe mode and run MBAM. The
    > computer eventually booted, but had no desktop. I went into the Task manager
    > and saw that there was no Explorer process, so I started it and al was well.
    > I then booted from the OS disc included with the PC, got into the repair
    > screen that had sustem restore and restored the PC to a date before it got
    > infected. This worked well and now the PC boot into Vista without any
    > problems. I ran an antivirus and MBAM and neither detected any malware.
    >
    > I thought all was well until I tried to connect to the Internet. I have
    > cable service, a modem connected to a router and the PCs connected to the
    > router. The Vista installation would not see anything out there, I tinkered
    > and managed to get a message that said that there was "limited connectivity
    > available". I figured that the LAN card's driver had been corrupted so I
    > downloaded the driver and installed it. The installation was successful, but
    > the problem persisted. I then went into Dev. manager and went into the
    > card's properties. The status comment indicated that the device was working
    > correctly. I noticed that there was another LAN device under the Network. It
    > was the MS 6to 4 Adapter and there was anexclamation point next to it. I
    > went into its properties and the remark indicated code 31.
    >
    > I did not know what this 6 to 4 adapter was so I investigated. It seems that
    > it is only a translator so that IPv6 can work with IPv4. So this took me
    > back to the card's properties to see what protocols were binded to it. Lo
    > and behold, it had both IP4 and IP6. I figured that the problem with the
    > adapter could be fixed by uninstalling it and then reinstaling it. I
    > proceeded to do this, but found that I could not re-install the 6 to 4
    > adapter. I went into Dev. Manager, used the Add legacy hardware option and
    > the process went well and finished successfully, but the adapter never
    > reappeared in dev. manager. After trying to clean the registry and not being
    > able to solve this problem I figured I could do a repair installation as I
    > have done with Win XP, but this option was not readily available within the
    > Vista setup process. After doing some research, it seems that an upgrade
    > install could solve my problem. I proceeded with it. All went well until it
    > got to the Completing upgrade stage. It seemed that the PC was frozen.
    > Hopeful, I left it running all night. In the morning there was a message
    > indicating that the upgrade had failed and that the previous install would
    > be restored. Although it took some time, Vista was restored. Since the
    > install DVD had Vista SP1, I figured that perhaps SP2 had been installed (I
    > was not even sure there was an SP2!). I check the system's properties which
    > indicated that it was Vista SP1, so I have no idea why the upgrade install
    > failed, unless it only works with previous versions of Windows, which does
    > not make sense since this DVD is supposed to be used to restore a damaged
    > installation.
    >
    > I examined the hard drive and found that it has a recovery partition. I
    > tried to explore that partition to locate some information and/or executable
    > that would start the recovery, but the partition was not accessible, saying
    > that it was being protected by PC angel. I did some research on the 'net but
    > was not able to find anything. I then went into system restore and went back
    > to a restore point before I uninstalled the 6 to 4 MS adapter. I was not
    > able to locate any information that told me how to solve this problem. I
    > started to suspect the hardware, thinking that it could be the LAN adapter,
    > so I booted the PC with a linux distro and tested. It connected perfectly to
    > the Internet and I was able to navigate to different Web sites. It was
    > confirned, this is a Windows Vista problem.
    >
    > I also searched for the 6to 4 adapter and found some download sites, but
    > most were dated around 2004 and decided to not take that path. So now, after
    > all this background, my question is: what can I do to solve this
    > connectivity problem? While the 6 to 4 adapter was uninstalled I unchecked
    > the IPv6 protocol in the card's properties, but this did not have any
    > effect. Any ideas or suggestions are greatly appreciated, as I have tried
    > everything I could think of and now need a different pair of eyes on this.
    > Perhaps I am missing a simple solution. Thank you for reading this long
    > post. Hopefully I have provided enough info so that some one can suggest
    > something. Best wishes to all! Saga
    >
    >
    You know the bigger problem you have is that it is impossible to know
    what all else has been corrupted and to be honest I think you'd have
    been better to bite the bullet and do a clean install.

    What do you get if you run>cmd and then ipconfig /all ?

    Are any services listed disabled? DHCP client?

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  3. #3


    Saga Guest

    Re: Vista can't see the network

    > You know the bigger problem you have is that it is impossible to know what

    > all else has been corrupted and to be honest I think you'd have been
    > better to bite the bullet and do a clean install.
    >
    > What do you get if you run>cmd and then ipconfig /all ?
    >
    ipconfig shows no default gateway and the IP is the one that Windows
    APIPA assigns when it can't get it from anywhere else, something like
    169.254.y.z.

    > Are any services listed disabled? DHCP client?
    I can test the DHCP client by assigning a static IP and default gateway
    so that the DHCP process is bypassed. AFAIK the DHCP client is functional.

    I hear you. A clean install is the end-all fix. I was avoiding it because
    the PC has a lot of applications installed and I wanted to exhaust all
    other possibilities. I guess I can put on the Star Wars Holiday Special
    while I do the clean install. It will make the installation process a
    delightful
    experience! ;-) Thanks for your input - much appreciated. Saga



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  4. #4


    Charlie Tame Guest

    Re: Vista can't see the network

    Saga wrote:

    >> You know the bigger problem you have is that it is impossible to know what
    >> all else has been corrupted and to be honest I think you'd have been
    >> better to bite the bullet and do a clean install.
    >>
    >> What do you get if you run>cmd and then ipconfig /all ?
    >>
    > ipconfig shows no default gateway and the IP is the one that Windows
    > APIPA assigns when it can't get it from anywhere else, something like
    > 169.254.y.z.
    >

    >> Are any services listed disabled? DHCP client?
    >
    > I can test the DHCP client by assigning a static IP and default gateway
    > so that the DHCP process is bypassed. AFAIK the DHCP client is functional.
    >
    > I hear you. A clean install is the end-all fix. I was avoiding it because
    > the PC has a lot of applications installed and I wanted to exhaust all
    > other possibilities. I guess I can put on the Star Wars Holiday Special
    > while I do the clean install. It will make the installation process a
    > delightful
    > experience! ;-) Thanks for your input - much appreciated. Saga
    >
    >

    Yeah, sorry, I wasn't being negative but having been down the road
    before (And it makes no difference what OS you are talking about)
    sometimes you just fix one thing only to find others broken. And of
    course Vista tries to protect it's own files somewhat and it gets hard
    to replace them.

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  5. #5


    Saga Guest

    Re: Vista can't see the network

    No problem. I followed your advice (albeit reluctantly) and nuked
    and rebuilt and all is working now. Perhaps my peeves with this
    solution is that it is supposed tobe the extreme solution when nothing
    else works, not the usual approach to fix these types of problems.

    I feel as though I walked way from this problem empty handed, not
    having learned anything abou thow to fix problems with Vista. Again,
    thanks for your input. Saga


    "Charlie Tame" <charlieNON@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:u2IBkW8WKHA.4704@newsgroup

    > Saga wrote:

    >>> You know the bigger problem you have is that it is impossible to know
    >>> what all else has been corrupted and to be honest I think you'd have
    >>> been better to bite the bullet and do a clean install.
    >>>
    >>> What do you get if you run>cmd and then ipconfig /all ?
    >>>
    >> ipconfig shows no default gateway and the IP is the one that Windows
    >> APIPA assigns when it can't get it from anywhere else, something like
    >> 169.254.y.z.
    >>

    >>> Are any services listed disabled? DHCP client?
    >>
    >> I can test the DHCP client by assigning a static IP and default gateway
    >> so that the DHCP process is bypassed. AFAIK the DHCP client is
    >> functional.
    >>
    >> I hear you. A clean install is the end-all fix. I was avoiding it because
    >> the PC has a lot of applications installed and I wanted to exhaust all
    >> other possibilities. I guess I can put on the Star Wars Holiday Special
    >> while I do the clean install. It will make the installation process a
    >> delightful
    >> experience! ;-) Thanks for your input - much appreciated. Saga
    >
    >
    > Yeah, sorry, I wasn't being negative but having been down the road before
    > (And it makes no difference what OS you are talking about) sometimes you
    > just fix one thing only to find others broken. And of course Vista tries
    > to protect it's own files somewhat and it gets hard to replace them.


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  6. #6


    Charlie Guest

    Re: Vista can't see the network


    No you did not walk away.

    You left the end user with a reliable system that you might have beaten
    yourself to death over if another problem had arisen. It's not quitting
    but rather common sense.


    Saga wrote:

    > No problem. I followed your advice (albeit reluctantly) and nuked
    > and rebuilt and all is working now. Perhaps my peeves with this
    > solution is that it is supposed tobe the extreme solution when nothing
    > else works, not the usual approach to fix these types of problems.
    >
    > I feel as though I walked way from this problem empty handed, not
    > having learned anything abou thow to fix problems with Vista. Again,
    > thanks for your input. Saga
    >
    >
    > "Charlie Tame" <charlieNON@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:u2IBkW8WKHA.4704@newsgroup

    >> Saga wrote:

    >>>> You know the bigger problem you have is that it is impossible to know
    >>>> what all else has been corrupted and to be honest I think you'd have
    >>>> been better to bite the bullet and do a clean install.
    >>>>
    >>>> What do you get if you run>cmd and then ipconfig /all ?
    >>>>
    >>> ipconfig shows no default gateway and the IP is the one that Windows
    >>> APIPA assigns when it can't get it from anywhere else, something like
    >>> 169.254.y.z.
    >>>
    >>>> Are any services listed disabled? DHCP client?
    >>> I can test the DHCP client by assigning a static IP and default gateway
    >>> so that the DHCP process is bypassed. AFAIK the DHCP client is
    >>> functional.
    >>>
    >>> I hear you. A clean install is the end-all fix. I was avoiding it because
    >>> the PC has a lot of applications installed and I wanted to exhaust all
    >>> other possibilities. I guess I can put on the Star Wars Holiday Special
    >>> while I do the clean install. It will make the installation process a
    >>> delightful
    >>> experience! ;-) Thanks for your input - much appreciated. Saga
    >>
    >> Yeah, sorry, I wasn't being negative but having been down the road before
    >> (And it makes no difference what OS you are talking about) sometimes you
    >> just fix one thing only to find others broken. And of course Vista tries
    >> to protect it's own files somewhat and it gets hard to replace them.
    >
    >

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