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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #1 (permalink)
Patrick


 
 

Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

Currently I am running Windows Vista.

I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn that a
lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.

Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what will
be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?

Thanks
Patrick


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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #2 (permalink)
nomore


 
 

Re: Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

Sadly what you propose is logical but may be disastrous.
If you have one hard drive and reformat it to install the upgrade the
upgrade may fail to activate because it does not see a valid, activated copy
of XP or Vista.

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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #3 (permalink)
peter


 
 

Re: Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

I think that's ridiculous
By the time it gets to the activation part it is already installed and
whatever
you upgraded from is gone....
the upgrade check happens way before that.. before the install.
Then just before the install comes the part where you put in the
activation number
The actual activation does not happen until it is installed and IE is
installed

peter



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"nomore" <fac_187@newsgroup> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Sadly what you propose is logical but may be disastrous.
> If you have one hard drive and reformat it to install the upgrade the
> upgrade may fail to activate because it does not see a valid, activated
> copy of XP or Vista.
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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #4 (permalink)
Gordon


 
 

Re: Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?


"peter" <peter@newsgroup> wrote in message
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Quote:

> I think that's ridiculous
> By the time it gets to the activation part it is already installed and
> whatever
> you upgraded from is gone....
> the upgrade check happens way before that.. before the install.
> Then just before the install comes the part where you put in the
> activation number
> The actual activation does not happen until it is installed and IE is
> installed
You cannot do a Windows 7 upgrade (using an Upgrade DVD) in the same manner
as before.
You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
This is because in previous versions the Upgrade sequence only looked for
the existence of a EULA - Windows 7 upgrade sequence now looks for a Product
Key which of course does NOT reside on the CD of the version being used as
the upgrade qualifier.

Hope that's clear.

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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #5 (permalink)
xfile


 
 

Re: Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

Hi,

Many people are confused between upgrade as a license and upgarde as an
installation mechanism and tend to mix the two together.

In order to purchase and use an upgrade version instead of a full retail
version, one has to have a valid qualifying product (e.g. XP, Vista), but
it's a totally different subject for how does one prepare the product to be
used - that is, the installation mechanism.

On the other hand, one can choose to use a clean or an upgrade install and
neither will affect one's license if the purchase was complied with the
upgrade qualififcations.

The license of the qualifying product will be voided when the upgraded
product is being used. In other words, one cannot use the two products at
the same time. In simple words, think it's a trade-in for the upgrade
version.

To choose between a clean and an upgrade install, I'd suggest to consider
both the best- and worst-case scenarios of the two mechanisms instead of
relying on one's wishful thinking since OS migration is a major task and
there are always unexpected situations especially for any reasonable use
system.

As far as I know, the difference between a retail full version and an
upgrade version is the license qualifications not the product iteself.

Hope this helps and good luck.


"Patrick" <Patrick@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:eDEK8nlXKHA.4704@newsgroup
Quote:

> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
>
> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn that
> a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
>
> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what will
> be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
>
> Thanks
> Patrick
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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #6 (permalink)
xfile


 
 

Re: Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.

False.

"Gordon" <gordonbparker@newsgroup> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> "peter" <peter@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:#9NnrwnXKHA.4360@newsgroup
Quote:

>> I think that's ridiculous
>> By the time it gets to the activation part it is already installed and
>> whatever
>> you upgraded from is gone....
>> the upgrade check happens way before that.. before the install.
>> Then just before the install comes the part where you put in the
>> activation number
>> The actual activation does not happen until it is installed and IE is
>> installed
>
> You cannot do a Windows 7 upgrade (using an Upgrade DVD) in the same
> manner as before.
> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
> This is because in previous versions the Upgrade sequence only looked for
> the existence of a EULA - Windows 7 upgrade sequence now looks for a
> Product Key which of course does NOT reside on the CD of the version being
> used as the upgrade qualifier.
>
> Hope that's clear.
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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #7 (permalink)
Gordon


 
 

Re: Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?


"xfile" <coucou@newsgroup> wrote in message
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Quote:
Quote:

>> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
>
> False.
Not false. True.

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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #8 (permalink)
xfile


 
 

Re: Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

Well, people can find out which one is true by trying themselves.

Suggest you do the same



"Gordon" <gordonbparker@newsgroup> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> "xfile" <coucou@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:eTkaFyrXKHA.1232@newsgroup
Quote:
Quote:

>>> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
>>
>> False.
>
> Not false. True.
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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #9 (permalink)
Dominic Payer


 
 

Re: Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp


On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
Quote:

> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
>
> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
>
> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
>
> Thanks
> Patrick
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 2 Weeks Ago   #10 (permalink)
Patrick


 
 

Re: Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

Dear Dominic,

Thanks for your link. Appreciate your help.

Do you suggest performing a clean install or upgrade from existing Vista OS
?

Needless to say, upgrade is much easier for me as I don't need to install
all software, broadband connection .... etc BUT I fear that the upgrade will
mess up the machine in the future.

Thanks
Patrick

"Dominic Payer" <dcp@newsgroup> wrote in message
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Quote:

> See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp
>
>
> On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
Quote:

>> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
>>
>> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
>> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
>> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
>>
>> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
>> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Patrick
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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