Vista Tutorial - Swap A Copy Of XP For VISTA

When we Beta tested Windows XP X64, we were given the opportunity to
exchange a copy of XP for a Copy of X64.

The very least that Microsoft could do for those of us that actually worked
on helping Microsoft by filing bug reports is to offer a similar deal for
Vista.

It was fun to play with the Betas but real world, we deserve some sort of a
bone for our efforts.

Microsoft has the ability to see who actually sent bug reports and that
could be a good way of determining who is eligible for anu such deals.

Regards,

Gary MCSE

Gary,

Microsoft offered the x64 swap to help the adoption and it was one for one
for the same OS". Windows Vista is a brand new OS with new features, etc so
why in the world would they offer a SWAP? That is just silly.

If you really were a beta testers then you would know the TechBeta
participants are geting a copy of Windows Vista....so not sure where you are
headed here?


--
Josh
http://windowsconnected.com

"Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:027EAD05-C986-4B74-868B-0AD4D6F1FD2F@microsoft.com...
> When we Beta tested Windows XP X64, we were given the opportunity to
> exchange a copy of XP for a Copy of X64.
>
> The very least that Microsoft could do for those of us that actually
> worked on helping Microsoft by filing bug reports is to offer a similar
> deal for Vista.
>
> It was fun to play with the Betas but real world, we deserve some sort of
> a bone for our efforts.
>
> Microsoft has the ability to see who actually sent bug reports and that
> could be a good way of determining who is eligible for anu such deals.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary MCSE

You caught me Josh...I am "So Silly" for wanting to be rewarded for my
input.

I am not sure why why in the world we would expect to be able to swap one
version of windows for another, its not like we swapped one version of
windows for another in the past...Now have we Josh?

Perhaps it's a way for Microsoft to recognize the assistance we testers have
given the Software giant in creating their New "Jewel" of an operating
system.

Not all of us can afford the Technet or MSDN subscription prices.

Besides, would it be coming out of your pocket Josh?
No, I didn't think so.

Maybe you were just "Joshing" Us!

Gary MCSE

<josh@windowsconnected.com> wrote in message
news:C2363AD9-C87F-410F-BB25-A32340A0B9E2@microsoft.com...
> Gary,
>
> Microsoft offered the x64 swap to help the adoption and it was one for one
> for the same OS". Windows Vista is a brand new OS with new features, etc
> so why in the world would they offer a SWAP? That is just silly.
>
> If you really were a beta testers then you would know the TechBeta
> participants are geting a copy of Windows Vista....so not sure where you
> are headed here?
>
>
> --
> Josh
> http://windowsconnected.com
>
> "Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
> news:027EAD05-C986-4B74-868B-0AD4D6F1FD2F@microsoft.com...
>> When we Beta tested Windows XP X64, we were given the opportunity to
>> exchange a copy of XP for a Copy of X64.
>>
>> The very least that Microsoft could do for those of us that actually
>> worked on helping Microsoft by filing bug reports is to offer a similar
>> deal for Vista.
>>
>> It was fun to play with the Betas but real world, we deserve some sort of
>> a bone for our efforts.
>>
>> Microsoft has the ability to see who actually sent bug reports and that
>> could be a good way of determining who is eligible for anu such deals.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gary MCSE
>

"Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:027EAD05-C986-4B74-868B-0AD4D6F1FD2F@microsoft.com...
> When we Beta tested Windows XP X64, we were given the opportunity to
> exchange a copy of XP for a Copy of X64.
>
> The very least that Microsoft could do for those of us that actually
> worked on helping Microsoft by filing bug reports is to offer a similar
> deal for Vista.
>
> It was fun to play with the Betas but real world, we deserve some sort of
> a bone for our efforts.
>
> Microsoft has the ability to see who actually sent bug reports and that
> could be a good way of determining who is eligible for anu such deals.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary MCSE


If you were a beta tester (by definition) AND submitted a bug, you will get
a copy of Vista. If either of those do not apply to you - no product. If you
were a consumer that utilized the Preview Program, you are not a beta
tester. It is very easy. The official beta testers that were truely into
testing the product did not expect any return for their efforts. Why should
you?

"Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:027EAD05-C986-4B74-868B-0AD4D6F1FD2F@microsoft.com...
> When we Beta tested Windows XP X64, we were given the opportunity to
> exchange a copy of XP for a Copy of X64.
>
> The very least that Microsoft could do for those of us that actually
> worked on helping Microsoft by filing bug reports is to offer a similar
> deal for Vista.
>
> It was fun to play with the Betas but real world, we deserve some sort of
> a bone for our efforts.
>
> Microsoft has the ability to see who actually sent bug reports and that
> could be a good way of determining who is eligible for anu such deals.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary MCSE

All beta testers that submitted at least one bug report have been given
access to download a free copy of Vista Ultimate :-)

The beta program does not stipulate any reward for 'any' beta tester and, as
such, one shouldn't expect one. As Chris points out 'preview' testers are
not, unfortunately, classed as 'official' beta testers.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:027EAD05-C986-4B74-868B-0AD4D6F1FD2F@microsoft.com...
> When we Beta tested Windows XP X64, we were given the opportunity to
> exchange a copy of XP for a Copy of X64.
>
> The very least that Microsoft could do for those of us that actually
> worked on helping Microsoft by filing bug reports is to offer a similar
> deal for Vista.
>
> It was fun to play with the Betas but real world, we deserve some sort of
> a bone for our efforts.
>
> Microsoft has the ability to see who actually sent bug reports and that
> could be a good way of determining who is eligible for anu such deals.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary MCSE

While it is understood that there are no benefits to testing anything for
Microsoft, it would be a nice gesture on their part to offer something to
those that do indeed help Microsoft to earn their shareholders the $$$ they
do.

Your definition of Beta testers/CPP is merely a way for Microsoft to keep
things from getting out of control..
They certainly do not turn away bug reports from anyone, regardless of their
classification as long as the proper channels are used in reporting.

I find it amazing how defensive all these hot**** MVP's get when you
question Microsoft's actions, like it is somehow going to affect their
pocketbooks.

It is in no way up to any of you anyway, so why do you bother wasting your
brain power defending Microsoft?

Are you incapable of asking that which may in some way offend the mighty
Microsoft?

It was just a thought, In a way, I was trying to help some of the poor
grunts out there that may not be able to buy a copy of windows to get a
copy...but NOOOO you guys just find it necessary to be the Microsoft police
squad and make excuses why you can't have a copy of Windows.

Every time there is a new Beta product, the same stupid question and
oppositions arise.

Seems like the same stupid people as well..

They must be lieutenants or captains by now.


"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:%23eDJUg0CHHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The beta program does not stipulate any reward for 'any' beta tester and,
> as such, one shouldn't expect one. As Chris points out 'preview' testers
> are not, unfortunately, classed as 'official' beta testers.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> this mail/post..
>
> "Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
> news:027EAD05-C986-4B74-868B-0AD4D6F1FD2F@microsoft.com...
>> When we Beta tested Windows XP X64, we were given the opportunity to
>> exchange a copy of XP for a Copy of X64.
>>
>> The very least that Microsoft could do for those of us that actually
>> worked on helping Microsoft by filing bug reports is to offer a similar
>> deal for Vista.
>>
>> It was fun to play with the Betas but real world, we deserve some sort of
>> a bone for our efforts.
>>
>> Microsoft has the ability to see who actually sent bug reports and that
>> could be a good way of determining who is eligible for anu such deals.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gary MCSE
>

Since you are getting both x86 and x64 Vista dvd's you do not need any swap
option like there was for XP x86 to x64. You simply use the one you want.

"Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:027EAD05-C986-4B74-868B-0AD4D6F1FD2F@microsoft.com...
> When we Beta tested Windows XP X64, we were given the opportunity to
> exchange a copy of XP for a Copy of X64.
>
> The very least that Microsoft could do for those of us that actually
> worked on helping Microsoft by filing bug reports is to offer a similar
> deal for Vista.
>
> It was fun to play with the Betas but real world, we deserve some sort of
> a bone for our efforts.
>
> Microsoft has the ability to see who actually sent bug reports and that
> could be a good way of determining who is eligible for anu such deals.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary MCSE

This "hotcrap" MVP isn't sussing you (and the likes of you) because of
financial issues but because you're being extremely ungrateful for what you
did get!

This beta offered an unparalleled opportunity for the public to get in on
the action, so to speak. No other product offered so many builds and so
many opportunities for folks to get code - for that matter, the public had a
shot at the same final pre-release code that the private beta tester
community had. I don't know of any other program where that has happened.

Right about now, I can imagine some project manager looking at the whining
going on and saying, "Wow, was that a mistake! Guess we'll never do that
again."

Dudes and Dudettes, you came into this with your eyes open - or it's your
fault if you didn't. You got what you were promised - early access to Vista
and an optional and voluntary chance to provide some input on what you saw.
You came, you saw, you got what you were guaranteed you'd get.

Now it ain't enough.
Poor you.



"Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:18158FB2-5402-4DB0-BD0C-B28748501D63@microsoft.com...
> While it is understood that there are no benefits to testing anything for
> Microsoft, it would be a nice gesture on their part to offer something to
> those that do indeed help Microsoft to earn their shareholders the $$$
> they do.

Gary, if this so called 'hot****' MVP has anything detrimental to say about
Microsoft, this 'hot****' MVP damn well say's it!!!!


"Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:18158FB2-5402-4DB0-BD0C-B28748501D63@microsoft.com...
> While it is understood that there are no benefits to testing anything for
> Microsoft, it would be a nice gesture on their part to offer something to
> those that do indeed help Microsoft to earn their shareholders the $$$
> they do.
>
> Your definition of Beta testers/CPP is merely a way for Microsoft to keep
> things from getting out of control..
> They certainly do not turn away bug reports from anyone, regardless of
> their classification as long as the proper channels are used in reporting.
>
> I find it amazing how defensive all these hot**** MVP's get when you
> question Microsoft's actions, like it is somehow going to affect their
> pocketbooks.
>
> It is in no way up to any of you anyway, so why do you bother wasting your
> brain power defending Microsoft?
>
> Are you incapable of asking that which may in some way offend the mighty
> Microsoft?
>
> It was just a thought, In a way, I was trying to help some of the poor
> grunts out there that may not be able to buy a copy of windows to get a
> copy...but NOOOO you guys just find it necessary to be the Microsoft
> police squad and make excuses why you can't have a copy of Windows.
>
> Every time there is a new Beta product, the same stupid question and
> oppositions arise.
>
> Seems like the same stupid people as well..
>
> They must be lieutenants or captains by now.
>
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:%23eDJUg0CHHA.3228@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> The beta program does not stipulate any reward for 'any' beta tester and,
>> as such, one shouldn't expect one. As Chris points out 'preview' testers
>> are not, unfortunately, classed as 'official' beta testers.
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> this mail/post..
>>
>> "Gary MCSE" <kc5md@comcast.com> wrote in message
>> news:027EAD05-C986-4B74-868B-0AD4D6F1FD2F@microsoft.com...
>>> When we Beta tested Windows XP X64, we were given the opportunity to
>>> exchange a copy of XP for a Copy of X64.
>>>
>>> The very least that Microsoft could do for those of us that actually
>>> worked on helping Microsoft by filing bug reports is to offer a similar
>>> deal for Vista.
>>>
>>> It was fun to play with the Betas but real world, we deserve some sort
>>> of a bone for our efforts.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has the ability to see who actually sent bug reports and that
>>> could be a good way of determining who is eligible for anu such deals.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gary MCSE
>>
>