Vista - Re: Tell MSFT How You Feel--Give them direct specific feedback

Mr. Harper if I were you, I'd confine imperative sentences that purport to
give orders to children you have who are young enough to still take them,
and others that mutually agree to take your orders. You haven't made an
application to me to take your orders, so I'm turning it down for the rest
of your life. I don't depend upon you to make judgements as to how my posts
look nor do I really care about your opinion in that regard whatsoever.

Uh so what. If you want to represent me that way, I'm delighted. People know
a lot better. The simple fact is that I rarely post email aliases for
anyone or could care less about them, and it's rare frankly for someone who
has become as associated on these groups as representing MSFT as Mike
Brannigan to abruptly part ways and not context the switch a bit in my
experience that I didn't know that apparently Mike is doing something
whatever it is different in his workplace, and I wasn't the only one who
didn't know.

When Rob Scoble, Greg Maffei, Eric Engstrom, for example moved from MSFT
it was fairly well reported and contexted for example and for the sake of
contrast.

If you take the number of posts MSFT employees make in public groups and I
don't care really if they are obligated to or not, of course they aren't
obligated to--I don't need for them to, and I don't rely on MSFT for
support--I try to help their customers when i can (although MSDN and Technet
blogs have actually shifted the paradigm of public participation for them
and much for the better--all of us benefit by that interaction).

Why not check my other posts? I think they exhibit a bit of familiarity
with the software by MSFT and others and MSFT's sites. Consider uh the
unique circumstances lol your MVPness. Mike Brannigan has posted ectopically
and metastatically all over the web as Mr. MSFTie and very recently.
Apparently now Mike is not at MSFT but he's not as explicit about whom he's
associated with now--and continues to still post in a vein that seems to
quasi represent MSFT's views as best I read his tone.

At some point according to him, in a less than straight forward fashion, he
and MSFT parted ways. If that's what I've posted that's wrong, a thousand
frigging pardons lol. I'd say my fixes are pretty on point. I'd say my
information is carefully checked. What isn't wrong are the contact email
addresses of the other MFST employees who participated in the decision as to
who gave away what. There was so much moaining in here for free software,
but let's be clear there was just as much moaining in the TBT groups for
mommy mommy pulleassse mommy give us a new build since July 05 and mommy
mommy pulllease mommy give us free swag and mommy mommmy pulllease mommy
give us free Vista that I posted who to write rather than this group who
participated in that decision.

I haven't seen anyone else pinpoint that with accuracy and I did.

As to anyone who used Brannigan's old email alias for when he was at MSFT, I
would imagine they join a line of many. If Brannigan doesn't forward that's
up to Brannigan. A softie I know who was Redmond's most famous blogger in
history told me that Gates' alias' alone get 8 million emails per day. So
to put your mountain of a mole hill in perspective your MVPness lol that's
the most trivial thing in years I've seen a Softie Soft MVP take up. LOL
to the 60 friggin forth.

If the employee remains at Softie Soft I can easily find their email address
if and when I believe it's appropriate. Out of thousands of posts in these
and other forums, it is rare for me to post an email alias. There are
specific times when I think a problem should be directed into an inbox.
You'll notice my complaints on behalf of the CPPers (I was not one but just
as I believe in shared sarifice in my hypocritical country ala Charley
Rangle's issue that will begin to get some traction and resonance--a DRAFT
for all those aloof elitists who like chickens in the playground urging the
tough guys to fight while they cower in the background) have been in two
areas and one of them wasn't about free software from Redmond MSFT.

1) I think they and the general public who are MSFT customers should have
had unfettered access to bug reports via Connect so they could get an idea
of exactly what particular pig was being lipsticked and mascarred up to come
to the dance. MSFT generates slides that project 400 million Vista desktops
in 24 months (we'll see) then they should let their perspective customers
they are ginning up on slides to some of us see what they did and did not
elect to fix by categories. It was intriguing to see Paul Donnelly purport
to join the bloggosphere on his blog for about two scant blogs and then quit
and not resume.

2) I mourned the lack of decent information on MSFT sites of the type that
will appear in Ed Bott's book next month or in January on any MSFT sites.
For example the topic of Win RE and recovery from no boot BSODs of all
stripes using Startup Repair has not been covered in any significant depth
on a MSFT site despite the fact that there are people designated by MSFT to
do just that (Jill Zoeller is one of them who comes to mind) and Ms. Soccer
Mom isn't finding her way to Jill's blog). I just did the test on walking
my dog this morning and not one person I ran into knew who either Jill
Zoeller or Charley Rangle was or what the "Filing Cabinet" as a Technet blog
was.

I strongly urged MSFT to put those Beta chat transcripts on their Vista site
because I thought that they answered some questions I have seen being asked.
It seemed like a no brainer to me.

I'll make political or other analogies any time I like. People make all
kinds of analogies in these groups and Mr. Harper gee I don't recall going
to work for you--I think I trained enough not to ever have to come close to
doing anything like that lol to the 64th again, and check with momma. See
if you have been designated as a dude or dudette to give me orders. See
also if you host this group. When and if I post on one of your blogs or
sites, I'll consider your predilection for my analogies. Have you noticed
the number of people who end with a signatrue that evokes some of their
proclivities or homilies or whatever?

I am in a country that is apathetic about the killing and maiming and
politicizing of this killing and maming of a selective population skewed
towards very small cities composed of a bell shaped curve of minorities
predominantly poorer white, African American and Hispanic whose families and
friends are taking the brunt of senseless killing in a senseless war waged
with senseless or no planning and the apathetic public is just beginning to
notice. The former Committe chairman blocked any meaningful examination of
this and if I can make an analogy that evokes that so much the better.

I did a search on some representative groups that had to do with Windows,
IE, Office, Office setup, WMP Mr. Harper. and I read your posts and I know
what mine have been and I'm happy with my contributions as time permits.

I have had a particular interest in getting Vista up and running and for
many months I did my best to help people get that done. I fell as if now
the repeat questions on burning the ISO, and CRCs and setup have been so
repeatedly well covered by many of us that if people post in these groups
and can't learn to use View>find then I'm not going to repeat posts in that
vein I've made and some excellent other people have made tirelessly over
hundreds of times.

CH

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/cof...er/gallery.htm

"Support the draft. It will focus your country whatever your country is on
some priorities that have been solely lacking. It will make those who so
hypocritically sacrifice the childeren of others, particularly in the
Pentagon and the US Senate and House think twice when they have skin in the
game.

The phrase "we must win in Iraq" has characteristically been given no
specific definition and has been correctly written about by Mr. Ricks and
Generaly Trainor in Cobra II as pure chaos, debacle, complete failure and as
it is titled a complete FIASCO.

It has been reduced to getting out and allowing the Iraquis to setup their
version of a stable government. It has been as Ted Koppel has documented
about oil in that regiion, and Iran now has considerably more influence
there than 130, 000 sitting US duck troops.

Thomas Ricks spent five tours in Iraq during the war, reporting for
the Washington ... Ricks: The U.S. military that went into Iraq in 2003 was
the best ...
http://www.amazon.com/Fiasco-America.../dp/159420103X


military correspondent, and Bernard E. Trainor, a retired Marine Corps
lieutenant general and former military correspondent for The Times, in
"Cobra II
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/28/bo...=rssnytemc=rss

____________________


"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
news:%23DF%23Q0VDHHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Uh, didn't Mike tell you the email address you posted for him was no
> longer valid? Ergo, I suggest that if you harvested one incorrect email
> address, how can we be sure any of the addresses you harvested were valid?
> Perhaps, if one is relying on the addresses you posted, one is writing to
> no one?
>
> Looked like a mish-mash to me. Some addresses were in full-name form.
> Some were in old Microsoft format. Some in new Microsoft format. And
> none of them are guaranteed to be correct. So that's what I suggested.
>
> Seemed - and seems - like plain English to me. And kindly keep political
> comparisons out of the discussion if you please. It only makes you look
> like a troll.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
> * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
> news:ON2xcVTDHHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> What the hell are you talking about Mr. Harper--lol first rule of writing
>> taught in elementary school in my country--butress your claim with
>> specificity.
>>
>> "Since we know Chad posted at least one flat wrong email message"--as to
>> what Mr. Harper--can you be specific and I'll be delighted to respond.
>> Wrong as to what?
>
>

Chad:
Whether I agree, disagree, like or dislike your analogies are not up
for discussion especially in this newsgroup. Your help and assistance has
been very helpful to many people including me. When you are giving help you
are very thorough and follow through with documentation where applicable.
Keep up the great work. When x64 went RTM there was also a lot of crying
that CPP also deserved a free upgrade to RTM but it was never offered or
promised as with Vista. I've had the privilege to participate in the CPP for
x64 and now Vista. It's been very rewarding as a learning experience and
given me a chance to put my hands on what's new and coming. In the last 2
1/2 years too many people to name have helped me directly or indirectly,
unfortunately they've been vastly out numbered by the cry-babies or
Nay-Sayers. If you're from the US have a great Thanksgiving, if from another
country I know that holidays are coming.


"Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
news:O%23P168ZDHHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Mr. Harper if I were you, I'd confine imperative sentences that purport to
> give orders to children you have who are young enough to still take them,
> and others that mutually agree to take your orders. You haven't made an
> application to me to take your orders, so I'm turning it down for the rest
> of your life. I don't depend upon you to make judgements as to how my
> posts
> look nor do I really care about your opinion in that regard whatsoever.
>
> Uh so what. If you want to represent me that way, I'm delighted. People
> know
> a lot better. The simple fact is that I rarely post email aliases for
> anyone or could care less about them, and it's rare frankly for someone
> who
> has become as associated on these groups as representing MSFT as Mike
> Brannigan to abruptly part ways and not context the switch a bit in my
> experience that I didn't know that apparently Mike is doing something
> whatever it is different in his workplace, and I wasn't the only one who
> didn't know.
>
> When Rob Scoble, Greg Maffei, Eric Engstrom, for example moved from
> MSFT
> it was fairly well reported and contexted for example and for the sake of
> contrast.
>
> If you take the number of posts MSFT employees make in public groups and I
> don't care really if they are obligated to or not, of course they aren't
> obligated to--I don't need for them to, and I don't rely on MSFT for
> support--I try to help their customers when i can (although MSDN and
> Technet
> blogs have actually shifted the paradigm of public participation for them
> and much for the better--all of us benefit by that interaction).
>
> Why not check my other posts? I think they exhibit a bit of familiarity
> with the software by MSFT and others and MSFT's sites. Consider uh the
> unique circumstances lol your MVPness. Mike Brannigan has posted
> ectopically
> and metastatically all over the web as Mr. MSFTie and very recently.
> Apparently now Mike is not at MSFT but he's not as explicit about whom
> he's
> associated with now--and continues to still post in a vein that seems to
> quasi represent MSFT's views as best I read his tone.
>
> At some point according to him, in a less than straight forward fashion,
> he
> and MSFT parted ways. If that's what I've posted that's wrong, a thousand
> frigging pardons lol. I'd say my fixes are pretty on point. I'd say my
> information is carefully checked. What isn't wrong are the contact email
> addresses of the other MFST employees who participated in the decision as
> to
> who gave away what. There was so much moaining in here for free software,
> but let's be clear there was just as much moaining in the TBT groups for
> mommy mommy pulleassse mommy give us a new build since July 05 and mommy
> mommy pulllease mommy give us free swag and mommy mommmy pulllease mommy
> give us free Vista that I posted who to write rather than this group who
> participated in that decision.
>
> I haven't seen anyone else pinpoint that with accuracy and I did.
>
> As to anyone who used Brannigan's old email alias for when he was at MSFT,
> I
> would imagine they join a line of many. If Brannigan doesn't forward
> that's
> up to Brannigan. A softie I know who was Redmond's most famous blogger
> in
> history told me that Gates' alias' alone get 8 million emails per day. So
> to put your mountain of a mole hill in perspective your MVPness lol that's
> the most trivial thing in years I've seen a Softie Soft MVP take up. LOL
> to the 60 friggin forth.
>
> If the employee remains at Softie Soft I can easily find their email
> address
> if and when I believe it's appropriate. Out of thousands of posts in
> these
> and other forums, it is rare for me to post an email alias. There are
> specific times when I think a problem should be directed into an inbox.
> You'll notice my complaints on behalf of the CPPers (I was not one but
> just
> as I believe in shared sarifice in my hypocritical country ala Charley
> Rangle's issue that will begin to get some traction and resonance--a DRAFT
> for all those aloof elitists who like chickens in the playground urging
> the
> tough guys to fight while they cower in the background) have been in two
> areas and one of them wasn't about free software from Redmond MSFT.
>
> 1) I think they and the general public who are MSFT customers should have
> had unfettered access to bug reports via Connect so they could get an idea
> of exactly what particular pig was being lipsticked and mascarred up to
> come
> to the dance. MSFT generates slides that project 400 million Vista
> desktops
> in 24 months (we'll see) then they should let their perspective customers
> they are ginning up on slides to some of us see what they did and did not
> elect to fix by categories. It was intriguing to see Paul Donnelly
> purport
> to join the bloggosphere on his blog for about two scant blogs and then
> quit
> and not resume.
>
> 2) I mourned the lack of decent information on MSFT sites of the type
> that
> will appear in Ed Bott's book next month or in January on any MSFT sites.
> For example the topic of Win RE and recovery from no boot BSODs of all
> stripes using Startup Repair has not been covered in any significant depth
> on a MSFT site despite the fact that there are people designated by MSFT
> to
> do just that (Jill Zoeller is one of them who comes to mind) and Ms.
> Soccer
> Mom isn't finding her way to Jill's blog). I just did the test on walking
> my dog this morning and not one person I ran into knew who either Jill
> Zoeller or Charley Rangle was or what the "Filing Cabinet" as a Technet
> blog
> was.
>
> I strongly urged MSFT to put those Beta chat transcripts on their Vista
> site
> because I thought that they answered some questions I have seen being
> asked.
> It seemed like a no brainer to me.
>
> I'll make political or other analogies any time I like. People make all
> kinds of analogies in these groups and Mr. Harper gee I don't recall
> going
> to work for you--I think I trained enough not to ever have to come close
> to
> doing anything like that lol to the 64th again, and check with momma. See
> if you have been designated as a dude or dudette to give me orders. See
> also if you host this group. When and if I post on one of your blogs or
> sites, I'll consider your predilection for my analogies. Have you noticed
> the number of people who end with a signatrue that evokes some of their
> proclivities or homilies or whatever?
>
> I am in a country that is apathetic about the killing and maiming and
> politicizing of this killing and maming of a selective population skewed
> towards very small cities composed of a bell shaped curve of minorities
> predominantly poorer white, African American and Hispanic whose families
> and
> friends are taking the brunt of senseless killing in a senseless war waged
> with senseless or no planning and the apathetic public is just beginning
> to
> notice. The former Committe chairman blocked any meaningful examination
> of
> this and if I can make an analogy that evokes that so much the better.
>
> I did a search on some representative groups that had to do with Windows,
> IE, Office, Office setup, WMP Mr. Harper. and I read your posts and I know
> what mine have been and I'm happy with my contributions as time permits.
>
> I have had a particular interest in getting Vista up and running and for
> many months I did my best to help people get that done. I fell as if now
> the repeat questions on burning the ISO, and CRCs and setup have been so
> repeatedly well covered by many of us that if people post in these groups
> and can't learn to use View>find then I'm not going to repeat posts in
> that
> vein I've made and some excellent other people have made tirelessly over
> hundreds of times.
>
> CH
>
> http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/cof...er/gallery.htm
>
> "Support the draft. It will focus your country whatever your country is
> on
> some priorities that have been solely lacking. It will make those who so
> hypocritically sacrifice the childeren of others, particularly in the
> Pentagon and the US Senate and House think twice when they have skin in
> the
> game.
>
> The phrase "we must win in Iraq" has characteristically been given no
> specific definition and has been correctly written about by Mr. Ricks and
> Generaly Trainor in Cobra II as pure chaos, debacle, complete failure and
> as
> it is titled a complete FIASCO.
>
> It has been reduced to getting out and allowing the Iraquis to setup their
> version of a stable government. It has been as Ted Koppel has documented
> about oil in that regiion, and Iran now has considerably more influence
> there than 130, 000 sitting US duck troops.
>
> Thomas Ricks spent five tours in Iraq during the war, reporting for
> the Washington ... Ricks: The U.S. military that went into Iraq in 2003
> was
> the best ...
> http://www.amazon.com/Fiasco-America.../dp/159420103X
>
>
> military correspondent, and Bernard E. Trainor, a retired Marine Corps
> lieutenant general and former military correspondent for The Times, in
> "Cobra II
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/28/bo...=rssnytemc=rss
>
> ____________________
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
> news:%23DF%23Q0VDHHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Uh, didn't Mike tell you the email address you posted for him was no
>> longer valid? Ergo, I suggest that if you harvested one incorrect email
>> address, how can we be sure any of the addresses you harvested were
>> valid?
>> Perhaps, if one is relying on the addresses you posted, one is writing to
>> no one?
>>
>> Looked like a mish-mash to me. Some addresses were in full-name form.
>> Some were in old Microsoft format. Some in new Microsoft format. And
>> none of them are guaranteed to be correct. So that's what I suggested.
>>
>> Seemed - and seems - like plain English to me. And kindly keep political
>> comparisons out of the discussion if you please. It only makes you look
>> like a troll.
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
>> * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>> * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
>> news:ON2xcVTDHHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> What the hell are you talking about Mr. Harper--lol first rule of
>>> writing
>>> taught in elementary school in my country--butress your claim with
>>> specificity.
>>>
>>> "Since we know Chad posted at least one flat wrong email message"--as to
>>> what Mr. Harper--can you be specific and I'll be delighted to respond.
>>> Wrong as to what?
>>
>>
>
>
>

Dennis have a great thanksgiving.

I really haven't drilled the extent to which MSFT made public betas
available all the way back when. A lot of people who have been using
Windows since the start are very familiar with that. I don't know if MSFT
has made some of the beta builds in Vista more accessible via the "CPP", but
some say they have. I don't see any rationale for example for them to have
cut off RC2 after 48 hours, because they know they had a lot of people
hooked into playing with Vista, and since I feel they do the public betas
and in a way the private beta to invoke interest, had it been my call I
would have kept the latest public beta they wanted to extend open until RTM
or even beyond. None of it impacted me, but I had empathy for anyone that
was impacted.

Most of us who are Windows enthusiasts are into Windows to see what's around
the bend with any of the Betas, and we usually enjoy the comradere, the very
talented people, and the tips and links that go far beyond the Beta for hdw
and software that show up in the beta newsgroups if we get the chance to use
them.

I thoroughly understand people participating in the public Beta and working
hard and feeling somewhat disappointed if Paul Donnelly elected to hand out
some swag or Vista ultimate to all the Beta testers who reported one
bug--but I think there is a feeling at Redmond MSFT and among those who
administrated that Beta that since they increasingly have more elaborate
participation with Feature Focus and Scenario Voting and many many episodic
test scenarios that certainly can take an awful lot of time they want to
enhance the loyalty of their testers and reward them.

I think for some of the people in the CPP the thought occured that had they
been on the beta they would have worked hard and done good quality testing,
and no doubt that's the case. They didn't have a lot of control over that
if any, and all this pious apply crap is just that since "applying" if there
is even such an entity on Connect--I see a lot of Betas that have
questionaires but I don't see any applying in the sense that there used to
be on Beta Place back in the day. Again my Queen Vic analogy holds. She
didn't choose to get the hemophelia gene but she inherited it. People who
were on past Betas for the OS and Office get onto the next one around the
bend. They seem to expand the population, but again I'm not aware of
applications or interviews to get on an OS or Office beta--the two the
greatest number of people want to be on the most.

Again, for most of us into Windows, sure free $400 or so is helpful for any
of us who have places for that money to go doing many of them having to do
with using the pc, --I haven't run into many people who like using MSFT
software who aren't happy to get a free Vista or an Office or some app that
is major to what they're but it's the information that most of us crave.

I can't help thinking although this is trite and banal for many people, if
you're safe and your family and friends are right now and you have a
decently running pc with the web at your finger tips, you have an awfully
powerful tool for learning and opportunity, and people should be very happy
if they have all those things in their equation.

Best,

CH

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack at hotmail dot com> wrote in message
news:BE15DEAB-6D5E-4E92-8B80-2BFCE6D01FEB@microsoft.com...
> Chad:
> Whether I agree, disagree, like or dislike your analogies are not
> up for discussion especially in this newsgroup. Your help and assistance
> has been very helpful to many people including me. When you are giving
> help you are very thorough and follow through with documentation where
> applicable. Keep up the great work. When x64 went RTM there was also a lot
> of crying that CPP also deserved a free upgrade to RTM but it was never
> offered or promised as with Vista. I've had the privilege to participate
> in the CPP for x64 and now Vista. It's been very rewarding as a learning
> experience and given me a chance to put my hands on what's new and coming.
> In the last 2 1/2 years too many people to name have helped me directly or
> indirectly, unfortunately they've been vastly out numbered by the
> cry-babies or Nay-Sayers. If you're from the US have a great Thanksgiving,
> if from another country I know that holidays are coming.
>
>
> "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
> news:O%23P168ZDHHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Mr. Harper if I were you, I'd confine imperative sentences that purport
>> to
>> give orders to children you have who are young enough to still take them,
>> and others that mutually agree to take your orders. You haven't made an
>> application to me to take your orders, so I'm turning it down for the
>> rest
>> of your life. I don't depend upon you to make judgements as to how my
>> posts
>> look nor do I really care about your opinion in that regard whatsoever.
>>
>> Uh so what. If you want to represent me that way, I'm delighted. People
>> know
>> a lot better. The simple fact is that I rarely post email aliases for
>> anyone or could care less about them, and it's rare frankly for someone
>> who
>> has become as associated on these groups as representing MSFT as Mike
>> Brannigan to abruptly part ways and not context the switch a bit in my
>> experience that I didn't know that apparently Mike is doing something
>> whatever it is different in his workplace, and I wasn't the only one who
>> didn't know.
>>
>> When Rob Scoble, Greg Maffei, Eric Engstrom, for example moved from
>> MSFT
>> it was fairly well reported and contexted for example and for the sake of
>> contrast.
>>
>> If you take the number of posts MSFT employees make in public groups and
>> I
>> don't care really if they are obligated to or not, of course they aren't
>> obligated to--I don't need for them to, and I don't rely on MSFT for
>> support--I try to help their customers when i can (although MSDN and
>> Technet
>> blogs have actually shifted the paradigm of public participation for them
>> and much for the better--all of us benefit by that interaction).
>>
>> Why not check my other posts? I think they exhibit a bit of familiarity
>> with the software by MSFT and others and MSFT's sites. Consider uh the
>> unique circumstances lol your MVPness. Mike Brannigan has posted
>> ectopically
>> and metastatically all over the web as Mr. MSFTie and very recently.
>> Apparently now Mike is not at MSFT but he's not as explicit about whom
>> he's
>> associated with now--and continues to still post in a vein that seems to
>> quasi represent MSFT's views as best I read his tone.
>>
>> At some point according to him, in a less than straight forward fashion,
>> he
>> and MSFT parted ways. If that's what I've posted that's wrong, a
>> thousand
>> frigging pardons lol. I'd say my fixes are pretty on point. I'd say my
>> information is carefully checked. What isn't wrong are the contact email
>> addresses of the other MFST employees who participated in the decision as
>> to
>> who gave away what. There was so much moaining in here for free
>> software,
>> but let's be clear there was just as much moaining in the TBT groups for
>> mommy mommy pulleassse mommy give us a new build since July 05 and mommy
>> mommy pulllease mommy give us free swag and mommy mommmy pulllease mommy
>> give us free Vista that I posted who to write rather than this group who
>> participated in that decision.
>>
>> I haven't seen anyone else pinpoint that with accuracy and I did.
>>
>> As to anyone who used Brannigan's old email alias for when he was at
>> MSFT, I
>> would imagine they join a line of many. If Brannigan doesn't forward
>> that's
>> up to Brannigan. A softie I know who was Redmond's most famous blogger
>> in
>> history told me that Gates' alias' alone get 8 million emails per day.
>> So
>> to put your mountain of a mole hill in perspective your MVPness lol
>> that's
>> the most trivial thing in years I've seen a Softie Soft MVP take up.
>> LOL
>> to the 60 friggin forth.
>>
>> If the employee remains at Softie Soft I can easily find their email
>> address
>> if and when I believe it's appropriate. Out of thousands of posts in
>> these
>> and other forums, it is rare for me to post an email alias. There are
>> specific times when I think a problem should be directed into an inbox.
>> You'll notice my complaints on behalf of the CPPers (I was not one but
>> just
>> as I believe in shared sarifice in my hypocritical country ala Charley
>> Rangle's issue that will begin to get some traction and resonance--a
>> DRAFT
>> for all those aloof elitists who like chickens in the playground urging
>> the
>> tough guys to fight while they cower in the background) have been in two
>> areas and one of them wasn't about free software from Redmond MSFT.
>>
>> 1) I think they and the general public who are MSFT customers should
>> have
>> had unfettered access to bug reports via Connect so they could get an
>> idea
>> of exactly what particular pig was being lipsticked and mascarred up to
>> come
>> to the dance. MSFT generates slides that project 400 million Vista
>> desktops
>> in 24 months (we'll see) then they should let their perspective customers
>> they are ginning up on slides to some of us see what they did and did not
>> elect to fix by categories. It was intriguing to see Paul Donnelly
>> purport
>> to join the bloggosphere on his blog for about two scant blogs and then
>> quit
>> and not resume.
>>
>> 2) I mourned the lack of decent information on MSFT sites of the type
>> that
>> will appear in Ed Bott's book next month or in January on any MSFT sites.
>> For example the topic of Win RE and recovery from no boot BSODs of all
>> stripes using Startup Repair has not been covered in any significant
>> depth
>> on a MSFT site despite the fact that there are people designated by MSFT
>> to
>> do just that (Jill Zoeller is one of them who comes to mind) and Ms.
>> Soccer
>> Mom isn't finding her way to Jill's blog). I just did the test on
>> walking
>> my dog this morning and not one person I ran into knew who either Jill
>> Zoeller or Charley Rangle was or what the "Filing Cabinet" as a Technet
>> blog
>> was.
>>
>> I strongly urged MSFT to put those Beta chat transcripts on their Vista
>> site
>> because I thought that they answered some questions I have seen being
>> asked.
>> It seemed like a no brainer to me.
>>
>> I'll make political or other analogies any time I like. People make all
>> kinds of analogies in these groups and Mr. Harper gee I don't recall
>> going
>> to work for you--I think I trained enough not to ever have to come close
>> to
>> doing anything like that lol to the 64th again, and check with momma.
>> See
>> if you have been designated as a dude or dudette to give me orders. See
>> also if you host this group. When and if I post on one of your blogs or
>> sites, I'll consider your predilection for my analogies. Have you
>> noticed
>> the number of people who end with a signatrue that evokes some of their
>> proclivities or homilies or whatever?
>>
>> I am in a country that is apathetic about the killing and maiming and
>> politicizing of this killing and maming of a selective population skewed
>> towards very small cities composed of a bell shaped curve of minorities
>> predominantly poorer white, African American and Hispanic whose families
>> and
>> friends are taking the brunt of senseless killing in a senseless war
>> waged
>> with senseless or no planning and the apathetic public is just beginning
>> to
>> notice. The former Committe chairman blocked any meaningful examination
>> of
>> this and if I can make an analogy that evokes that so much the better.
>>
>> I did a search on some representative groups that had to do with Windows,
>> IE, Office, Office setup, WMP Mr. Harper. and I read your posts and I
>> know
>> what mine have been and I'm happy with my contributions as time permits.
>>
>> I have had a particular interest in getting Vista up and running and for
>> many months I did my best to help people get that done. I fell as if now
>> the repeat questions on burning the ISO, and CRCs and setup have been so
>> repeatedly well covered by many of us that if people post in these groups
>> and can't learn to use View>find then I'm not going to repeat posts in
>> that
>> vein I've made and some excellent other people have made tirelessly over
>> hundreds of times.
>>
>> CH
>>
>> http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/cof...er/gallery.htm
>>
>> "Support the draft. It will focus your country whatever your country is
>> on
>> some priorities that have been solely lacking. It will make those who so
>> hypocritically sacrifice the childeren of others, particularly in the
>> Pentagon and the US Senate and House think twice when they have skin in
>> the
>> game.
>>
>> The phrase "we must win in Iraq" has characteristically been given no
>> specific definition and has been correctly written about by Mr. Ricks and
>> Generaly Trainor in Cobra II as pure chaos, debacle, complete failure and
>> as
>> it is titled a complete FIASCO.
>>
>> It has been reduced to getting out and allowing the Iraquis to setup
>> their
>> version of a stable government. It has been as Ted Koppel has documented
>> about oil in that regiion, and Iran now has considerably more influence
>> there than 130, 000 sitting US duck troops.
>>
>> Thomas Ricks spent five tours in Iraq during the war, reporting for
>> the Washington ... Ricks: The U.S. military that went into Iraq in 2003
>> was
>> the best ...
>> http://www.amazon.com/Fiasco-America.../dp/159420103X
>>
>>
>> military correspondent, and Bernard E. Trainor, a retired Marine Corps
>> lieutenant general and former military correspondent for The Times, in
>> "Cobra II
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/28/bo...=rssnytemc=rss
>>
>> ____________________
>>
>>
>> "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23DF%23Q0VDHHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Uh, didn't Mike tell you the email address you posted for him was no
>>> longer valid? Ergo, I suggest that if you harvested one incorrect email
>>> address, how can we be sure any of the addresses you harvested were
>>> valid?
>>> Perhaps, if one is relying on the addresses you posted, one is writing
>>> to
>>> no one?
>>>
>>> Looked like a mish-mash to me. Some addresses were in full-name form.
>>> Some were in old Microsoft format. Some in new Microsoft format. And
>>> none of them are guaranteed to be correct. So that's what I suggested.
>>>
>>> Seemed - and seems - like plain English to me. And kindly keep
>>> political
>>> comparisons out of the discussion if you please. It only makes you look
>>> like a troll.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com
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>>> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
>>> * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
>>> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> "Chad Harris" <Vista RTM is really Beta 1.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ON2xcVTDHHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> What the hell are you talking about Mr. Harper--lol first rule of
>>>> writing
>>>> taught in elementary school in my country--butress your claim with
>>>> specificity.
>>>>
>>>> "Since we know Chad posted at least one flat wrong email message"--as
>>>> to
>>>> what Mr. Harper--can you be specific and I'll be delighted to respond.
>>>> Wrong as to what?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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