Vista - you cant change the friken startup sound in vista

Don't give HIM YOUR ADDRESS!! He will only hide outside and wait until it
is quiet inside your house. Knowing that your computer is turned off, he
will cut your phone line and come inside to get you. Knowing full-well that
you will have to resort to calling an IM buddy to save your life. And then
he will locate you by the Windows Startup Sound and come down the hall to
kill you!!!

First, I would throw away your PC. Then the worst of your life's fears will
be eliminated.

Then, I would move. Move. Move to a new location every 6-10 weeks in order
to avoid all of this wretched anxiety. Just keep moving around the rest of
your life. Don't look back.

-- Dave

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
> news:u52moBcDHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> imagine this scenario....
>>
>> you have a laptop with no physical sound controls on it...
>>
>> you are in a house where thieves have entered to steal and probably kill
>> you..
>>
>> they were smart enough to cut the phones before they came in...
>>
>> and they are not sure anyone is in the house.. you are hiding..
>>
>> In your despair and idea flashes in your mind.. why not log onto the
>> internet
>> and sent an instant message to someone for help???
>>
>> Well you start your new vista laptop,.... and a firkin LOUD
>> 1 million dollar 4 second start sounds plays...
>>
>> After a few moments you are dead....
>>
>> Your last thought was.. WHY??? I had muted the sound the last time I
>> turned it off?
>>
>> - yes but you forgot about the SEPARATE option to turn off the other
>> start sound,
>> that is unaffected by the other sound controls...
>> And that's why you are dead... see?
>>
>> Vista is stupid, plain and simple.
>>
>>
>> "Paul Mckenna" <Paul@cliffhanger.com> wrote in message
>> news:e42sWkbDHHA.4256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You say that but i bet tonight when you go to bed tonight you can't get
>>> that sound out your head!!
>>> Damn MS with their clever branding techniques.
>>> Damn then i say!
>>>
>>> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ecQg%23hbDHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> They did it to basically brand into your computer that you're using a
>>>> Windows Vista computer. I don't know if I like that idea either, but
>>>> I'm not going to lose sleep over it...
>>>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>>>> news:uzoT88aDHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Now I call that STUPID, IDIOTIC!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why the he** did they do that? They are morons! Complete morons!
>>>>>
>>>>> This "simple" thing will make a lot of people very angry!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Now you are really going off the wall. Damn, calm down!
>
> If you give me your address I will send you some of my better meds.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> Quote from George Ankner:
> If you knew as much as you think you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
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> No, it is the same place where you change ANY of the Sounds.
> The fact that it sits there on a check box on its own make it even easier
> for anyone to find.

yeah .. except it's partially redundant in function but completely different
in form when compared to the selection list... I have already seen people
have "d'oh!" moments overlooking the checkbox...

Jon

"MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
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>I will most likley leave the default sound, just as I have with XP,
> but other people love putting their own sound there...
>
> and first of all why did they change this? Its crazy.. like most things in
> vista..
>
> "hey lets change this feature just for the heck of it... he he h eh he
> hehe"
>
> Idiots!

They didn't change anything. They added. What they added was branding. You
can turn it off. They're smart to add branding, though. Don't like it, turn
it off, or fire up Visual Studio and start hacking at the DLLs and sell your
solution for $20 a pop and be rich. But there are no idiots here.

Jon

Have you told all this to your doctor?
:-)

"DMB" <noemail@newsgroups.OK> wrote in message
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> Don't give HIM YOUR ADDRESS!! He will only hide outside and wait until it
> is quiet inside your house. Knowing that your computer is turned off, he
> will cut your phone line and come inside to get you. Knowing full-well
> that you will have to resort to calling an IM buddy to save your life.
> And then he will locate you by the Windows Startup Sound and come down the
> hall to kill you!!!
>
> First, I would throw away your PC. Then the worst of your life's fears
> will be eliminated.
>
> Then, I would move. Move. Move to a new location every 6-10 weeks in
> order to avoid all of this wretched anxiety. Just keep moving around the
> rest of your life. Don't look back.
>
> -- Dave
>
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23okZ9ocDHHA.4508@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>> news:u52moBcDHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> imagine this scenario....
>>>
>>> you have a laptop with no physical sound controls on it...
>>>
>>> you are in a house where thieves have entered to steal and probably kill
>>> you..
>>>
>>> they were smart enough to cut the phones before they came in...
>>>
>>> and they are not sure anyone is in the house.. you are hiding..
>>>
>>> In your despair and idea flashes in your mind.. why not log onto the
>>> internet
>>> and sent an instant message to someone for help???
>>>
>>> Well you start your new vista laptop,.... and a firkin LOUD
>>> 1 million dollar 4 second start sounds plays...
>>>
>>> After a few moments you are dead....
>>>
>>> Your last thought was.. WHY??? I had muted the sound the last time I
>>> turned it off?
>>>
>>> - yes but you forgot about the SEPARATE option to turn off the other
>>> start sound,
>>> that is unaffected by the other sound controls...
>>> And that's why you are dead... see?
>>>
>>> Vista is stupid, plain and simple.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Paul Mckenna" <Paul@cliffhanger.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e42sWkbDHHA.4256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> You say that but i bet tonight when you go to bed tonight you can't get
>>>> that sound out your head!!
>>>> Damn MS with their clever branding techniques.
>>>> Damn then i say!
>>>>
>>>> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ecQg%23hbDHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> They did it to basically brand into your computer that you're using a
>>>>> Windows Vista computer. I don't know if I like that idea either, but
>>>>> I'm not going to lose sleep over it...
>>>>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uzoT88aDHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Now I call that STUPID, IDIOTIC!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why the he** did they do that? They are morons! Complete morons!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This "simple" thing will make a lot of people very angry!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Now you are really going off the wall. Damn, calm down!
>>
>> If you give me your address I will send you some of my better meds.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>> Quote from George Ankner:
>> If you knew as much as you think you know,
>> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
>>
>

I disagree. Branding should not be enforced that way. Most people will leave
the default one on anyway.... but why not please a dedicated power user
group who loves to customize this?

I remember a guy who wanted a way to put his whole favorite song as the
startup sound...
and XP could not do that because it had a limitation of the startup sound
time.

If he wanted it why not let him? Remember evolution states that the most
powerful
surviving trait, is to be versatile..... The more versatile an OS is the
better...




"Jon Davis" <jon@REMOVE.ME.PLEASE.jondavis.net> wrote in message
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>
> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
> news:OlVc3KbDHHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I will most likley leave the default sound, just as I have with XP,
>> but other people love putting their own sound there...
>>
>> and first of all why did they change this? Its crazy.. like most things
>> in vista..
>>
>> "hey lets change this feature just for the heck of it... he he h eh he
>> hehe"
>>
>> Idiots!
>
> They didn't change anything. They added. What they added was branding. You
> can turn it off. They're smart to add branding, though. Don't like it,
> turn it off, or fire up Visual Studio and start hacking at the DLLs and
> sell your solution for $20 a pop and be rich. But there are no idiots
> here.
>
> Jon
>
>

"MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
news:eozuPphDHHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I disagree. Branding should not be enforced that way. Most people will
>leave the default one on anyway.... but why not please a dedicated power
>user group who loves to customize this?
>
> I remember a guy who wanted a way to put his whole favorite song as the
> startup sound...
> and XP could not do that because it had a limitation of the startup sound
> time.
>
> If he wanted it why not let him? Remember evolution states that the most
> powerful
> surviving trait, is to be versatile..... The more versatile an OS is the
> better...
>
>
>
>
> "Jon Davis" <jon@REMOVE.ME.PLEASE.jondavis.net> wrote in message
> news:O6DKZigDHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>> news:OlVc3KbDHHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I will most likley leave the default sound, just as I have with XP,
>>> but other people love putting their own sound there...
>>>
>>> and first of all why did they change this? Its crazy.. like most things
>>> in vista..
>>>
>>> "hey lets change this feature just for the heck of it... he he h eh he
>>> hehe"
>>>
>>> Idiots!
>>
>> They didn't change anything. They added. What they added was branding.
>> You can turn it off. They're smart to add branding, though. Don't like
>> it, turn it off, or fire up Visual Studio and start hacking at the DLLs
>> and sell your solution for $20 a pop and be rich. But there are no idiots
>> here.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>
>



Branding is fine with me.

Who here will say that they don't know what "YAHOOooooooooooo" is all about.

How about "Dude, you got a Dell"?

It is marketing. You are beating a dead horse so let it go. Turn it off if
it offends you so and tell others how to do it.



--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:39:57 +0200, "MicroFox" <-> wrote:

>
>I remember a guy who wanted a way to put his whole favorite song as the
>startup sound...
>and XP could not do that because it had a limitation of the startup sound
>time.
>
>If he wanted it why not let him?
Thank you Microsoft for doing something right (accidentally?).

I might be the person in the next cube
AND
I hate that tune

My music is not *your* music and the other way around.
Do you realize how many business users HAVE Sub woofers running at
their desks? (I do, I move computers for pay)

Short and ?sweet?
OK, just short, I can live with that (I hope).
I like brief audible queues of what's happening on the screen. Even
without having to look. My e mail filters play a brief sound for
certain messages. The error boop tells me I screwed up (again).

Hi Paul,

There was actaully an article on this somewhere, and the composer was
shooting for a sound you wouldn't notice. He figured it will be heard
millions of times, and didn't want to tee people off with it. Apparently,
from this thread, he failed. :-)

-- Larry Maturo


"Paul Mckenna" <Paul@cliffhanger.com> wrote in message
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> gotta be honest i've not even noticed the sound... that has to piss the
> composer off!
>
> "Quanta" <none@none.NET> wrote in message
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>>
>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>> news:OvRw1ObDHHA.4740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> they hired a famous guitar musician to make this sound.. he worked like
>>> 18 months on it..
>>> lol.. and I can imagine it cost hundreds of thousands of dollars..
>>>
>>> for a friken 4 second stupid sound you cant change!
>>>
>>> Vista = the view of an idiot
>>> Now also the sound of an idiot you cannot change.
>>
>>
>> I estimate that the start up sound, involving the composer, testers,
>> listeners, etc cost ca. a million dollars to create.
>>
>> It is hardly worth it, IMO.
>>
>> The ability to turn it off is not useful. I want a start up sound to
>> assure that my audio setup is active.
>>
>> I do NOT want this sound!
>>
>>
>>
>

> I want a start up sound to assure that my audio setup is active.

Does it have a tendency not to, so as to make a startup sound necessary?

I had no problems sleeping... ; )
"Paul Mckenna" <Paul@cliffhanger.com> wrote in message
news:e42sWkbDHHA.4256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You say that but i bet tonight when you go to bed tonight you can't get
> that sound out your head!!
> Damn MS with their clever branding techniques.
> Damn then i say!
>
> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
> news:ecQg%23hbDHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> They did it to basically brand into your computer that you're using a
>> Windows Vista computer. I don't know if I like that idea either, but I'm
>> not going to lose sleep over it...
>> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
>> news:uzoT88aDHHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Now I call that STUPID, IDIOTIC!!!!
>>>
>>> Why the he** did they do that? They are morons! Complete morons!
>>>
>>> This "simple" thing will make a lot of people very angry!
>>>
>>
>