Vista - Windows 2000 was released with 20,000 bugs

In 2000 a leaked memo from Microsoft obtained by Mary Jo Foley (of
Microsoft-Watch) revealed that Windows 2000 was released with 20,000 bugs
and that Microsoft knowingly released it any way. After this incident,
Microsoft would not speak to Mary Jo Foley for two years regarding projects
and information of any kind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows

Now you guys can do your own estimate of how many bugs vista has,
but they will release it anyway. Remember win2000 is very simple compared to
vista.

This tactic however of "release it anyway" does have its merits... if you
want perfection

nothing ever gets done on time.

MicroFox wrote:
> In 2000 a leaked memo from Microsoft obtained by Mary Jo Foley (of
> Microsoft-Watch) revealed that Windows 2000 was released with 20,000
> bugs and that Microsoft knowingly released it any way.

Of course, a number of those bugs were things like spelling mistakes in
window titles and other such stuff that looks bad (looks very bad to be
sure!) but doesn't actually effect the operation of the system.

> After this
> incident, Microsoft would not speak to Mary Jo Foley for two years
> regarding projects and information of any kind.

If she has the right to use leaked material, they have the right to refuse
to talk to her afterwards.

I heard that they had somewhere between 300 or 500 unresolved bugs in Vista
at the moment of RTM. This means of course only active bugs registered in
bug tracking system. I don't have a reliable source to quote however so take
it with a grain of salt.

--
Alexander Suhovey


"MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
news:OO71X4AEHHA.3444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> In 2000 a leaked memo from Microsoft obtained by Mary Jo Foley (of
> Microsoft-Watch) revealed that Windows 2000 was released with 20,000 bugs
> and that Microsoft knowingly released it any way. After this incident,
> Microsoft would not speak to Mary Jo Foley for two years regarding
> projects and information of any kind.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows
>
> Now you guys can do your own estimate of how many bugs vista has,
> but they will release it anyway. Remember win2000 is very simple compared
> to vista.
>
> This tactic however of "release it anyway" does have its merits... if you
> want perfection
>
> nothing ever gets done on time.
>
>
>
>

MicroFox wrote:

> In 2000 a leaked memo from Microsoft obtained by Mary Jo Foley (of
> Microsoft-Watch) revealed that Windows 2000 was released with 20,000 bugs
> and that Microsoft knowingly released it any way. After this incident,
> Microsoft would not speak to Mary Jo Foley for two years regarding projects
> and information of any kind.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows
>
> Now you guys can do your own estimate of how many bugs vista has,
> but they will release it anyway. Remember win2000 is very simple compared to
> vista.
>
> This tactic however of "release it anyway" does have its merits... if you
> want perfection
>
> nothing ever gets done on time.
>
>
>
>
WRONG! I, like many others here was in on the beta of 2K and as I recall
that "memo" was somewhat of a greatly overstated "rant".
You need to get a real life MiniFox.
Frank

You are correct. TechBeta folks who participated in one of the chats just
before RC1 released were told that the active bug list was "in the hundreds,
not the thousands." That was a long time before rtm.

"Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O56vfMBEHHA.4668@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I heard that they had somewhere between 300 or 500 unresolved bugs in Vista
>at the moment of RTM. This means of course only active bugs registered in
>bug tracking system. I don't have a reliable source to quote however so
>take it with a grain of salt.
>
> --
> Alexander Suhovey
>
>
> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
> news:OO71X4AEHHA.3444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> In 2000 a leaked memo from Microsoft obtained by Mary Jo Foley (of
>> Microsoft-Watch) revealed that Windows 2000 was released with 20,000 bugs
>> and that Microsoft knowingly released it any way. After this incident,
>> Microsoft would not speak to Mary Jo Foley for two years regarding
>> projects and information of any kind.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows
>>
>> Now you guys can do your own estimate of how many bugs vista has,
>> but they will release it anyway. Remember win2000 is very simple compared
>> to vista.
>>
>> This tactic however of "release it anyway" does have its merits... if you
>> want perfection
>>
>> nothing ever gets done on time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

"Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
news:OogK65BEHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> MicroFox wrote:
>
>> In 2000 a leaked memo from Microsoft obtained by Mary Jo Foley (of
>> Microsoft-Watch) revealed that Windows 2000 was released with 20,000 bugs
>> and that Microsoft knowingly released it any way. After this incident,
>> Microsoft would not speak to Mary Jo Foley for two years regarding
>> projects and information of any kind.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows
>>
>> Now you guys can do your own estimate of how many bugs vista has,
>> but they will release it anyway. Remember win2000 is very simple compared
>> to vista.
>>
>> This tactic however of "release it anyway" does have its merits... if you
>> want perfection
>>
>> nothing ever gets done on time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> WRONG! I, like many others here was in on the beta of 2K and as I recall
> that "memo" was somewhat of a greatly overstated "rant".
> You need to get a real life MiniFox.
> Frank

Ditto to you. What a stupid response!

Quanta wrote:
> "Frank" <fb@nospamm.cmm> wrote in message
> news:OogK65BEHHA.992@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>>MicroFox wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In 2000 a leaked memo from Microsoft obtained by Mary Jo Foley (of
>>>Microsoft-Watch) revealed that Windows 2000 was released with 20,000 bugs
>>>and that Microsoft knowingly released it any way. After this incident,
>>>Microsoft would not speak to Mary Jo Foley for two years regarding
>>>projects and information of any kind.
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows
>>>
>>>Now you guys can do your own estimate of how many bugs vista has,
>>>but they will release it anyway. Remember win2000 is very simple compared
>>>to vista.
>>>
>>>This tactic however of "release it anyway" does have its merits... if you
>>>want perfection
>>>
>>>nothing ever gets done on time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>WRONG! I, like many others here was in on the beta of 2K and as I recall
>>that "memo" was somewhat of a greatly overstated "rant".
>>You need to get a real life MiniFox.
>>Frank
>
>
> Ditto to you. What a stupid response!
>
>
"Ditto to you.."? What are you, a MinFox or MJF apologists?
Frank

I think Mary Jo is still recovering from the effects of that MS
Blacklisting. I think she deserved, it was obviously not true and it was
obviously looking for scoops.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry
"MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
news:OO71X4AEHHA.3444@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> In 2000 a leaked memo from Microsoft obtained by Mary Jo Foley (of
> Microsoft-Watch) revealed that Windows 2000 was released with 20,000 bugs
> and that Microsoft knowingly released it any way. After this incident,
> Microsoft would not speak to Mary Jo Foley for two years regarding
> projects and information of any kind.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rosoft_Windows
>
> Now you guys can do your own estimate of how many bugs vista has,
> but they will release it anyway. Remember win2000 is very simple compared
> to vista.
>
> This tactic however of "release it anyway" does have its merits... if you
> want perfection
>
> nothing ever gets done on time.
>
>
>
>

"MicroFox" wrote:

> Now you guys can do your own estimate of how many bugs vista has,
> but they will release it anyway. Remember win2000 is very simple compared to
> vista.

Windows Vista is the highest-quality version of Windows that Microsoft has
ever produced. Microsoft has had more people test more builds than previous
development cycles, and the result is that Microsoft received more feedback
than ever before.

go to the ie7 newsgroup and se whats happening

then revise you wrong theory

"mik" <mik@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "MicroFox" wrote:
>
>> Now you guys can do your own estimate of how many bugs vista has,
>> but they will release it anyway. Remember win2000 is very simple compared
>> to
>> vista.
>
> Windows Vista is the highest-quality version of Windows that Microsoft has
> ever produced. Microsoft has had more people test more builds than
> previous
> development cycles, and the result is that Microsoft received more
> feedback
> than ever before.