I just recieved a copy of Vista Ultimate, not knowing what to expect at all.
I knew a little, such as this operating system does support dual core and 64x
processors...

My problem is, I came to understand that Vista Ultimate has everything,
including being able to support both 86x and 64x, there being some option
during the install.

So, basically...am I completely wrong, or did I miss something, OR did I
just get the wrong version of Vista?



Also, does Vista have all the same compatability problems that WIN64 had? I
know I lost my webcam, printer, most of my video options, etc...

Thanks!

Hi Chris,

Hardware is dependent on drivers being available. While it is getting
better, there is still a dearth of drivers for x64 operating systems whereas
x86 usually has an abundance. The x64 version of Vista Ultimate has quite a
bit of built in support, but you still may need a driver from the device
manufacturer. All one can reasonably tell you is to try it and see, but make
sure you use a test system or install to a second volume as a test. Do not
install it on a primary system with irreplacable data until you are a) sure
the hardware will function under Vista and b) you have backed up the data so
that you can recover it if disaster strikes.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Chris Mattison" <Chris Mattison@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A3E47722-B5C4-406F-8106-CEA5EAD7C165@microsoft.com...
>I just recieved a copy of Vista Ultimate, not knowing what to expect at
>all.
> I knew a little, such as this operating system does support dual core and
> 64x
> processors...
>
> My problem is, I came to understand that Vista Ultimate has everything,
> including being able to support both 86x and 64x, there being some option
> during the install.
>
> So, basically...am I completely wrong, or did I miss something, OR did I
> just get the wrong version of Vista?
>
> Also, does Vista have all the same compatability problems that WIN64 had?
> I
> know I lost my webcam, printer, most of my video options, etc...
>
> Thanks!

It might have been nice to mention clearly that my problem is that I have a
64x processor, and when I installed I was given no option to install any
operating system but the 32 bit...I was asking, doesn't Ultimate have support
for both?

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> Hardware is dependent on drivers being available. While it is getting
> better, there is still a dearth of drivers for x64 operating systems whereas
> x86 usually has an abundance. The x64 version of Vista Ultimate has quite a
> bit of built in support, but you still may need a driver from the device
> manufacturer. All one can reasonably tell you is to try it and see, but make
> sure you use a test system or install to a second volume as a test. Do not
> install it on a primary system with irreplacable data until you are a) sure
> the hardware will function under Vista and b) you have backed up the data so
> that you can recover it if disaster strikes.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Chris Mattison" <Chris Mattison@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A3E47722-B5C4-406F-8106-CEA5EAD7C165@microsoft.com...
> >I just recieved a copy of Vista Ultimate, not knowing what to expect at
> >all.
> > I knew a little, such as this operating system does support dual core and
> > 64x
> > processors...
> >
> > My problem is, I came to understand that Vista Ultimate has everything,
> > including being able to support both 86x and 64x, there being some option
> > during the install.
> >
> > So, basically...am I completely wrong, or did I miss something, OR did I
> > just get the wrong version of Vista?
> >
> > Also, does Vista have all the same compatability problems that WIN64 had?
> > I
> > know I lost my webcam, printer, most of my video options, etc...
> >
> > Thanks!
>
>

Another third party news item today:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/index.php?p=171

"Microsoft has decided, sensibly, that it won't include the 64-bit version
of Vista in any of its retail boxes; you'll have to order a DVD and have it
shipped separately."

Could be more mis-information, but it sounds plausible.

--

John

Chris Mattison wrote:
> It might have been nice to mention clearly that my problem is that I
> have a 64x processor, and when I installed I was given no option to
> install any operating system but the 32 bit...I was asking, doesn't
> Ultimate have support for both?
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Hardware is dependent on drivers being available. While it is getting
>> better, there is still a dearth of drivers for x64 operating systems
>> whereas x86 usually has an abundance. The x64 version of Vista
>> Ultimate has quite a bit of built in support, but you still may need
>> a driver from the device manufacturer. All one can reasonably tell
>> you is to try it and see, but make sure you use a test system or
>> install to a second volume as a test. Do not install it on a primary
>> system with irreplacable data until you are a) sure the hardware
>> will function under Vista and b) you have backed up the data so that
>> you can recover it if disaster strikes.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Chris Mattison" <Chris Mattison@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:A3E47722-B5C4-406F-8106-CEA5EAD7C165@microsoft.com...
>>> I just recieved a copy of Vista Ultimate, not knowing what to
>>> expect at all.
>>> I knew a little, such as this operating system does support dual
>>> core and 64x
>>> processors...
>>>
>>> My problem is, I came to understand that Vista Ultimate has
>>> everything, including being able to support both 86x and 64x, there
>>> being some option during the install.
>>>
>>> So, basically...am I completely wrong, or did I miss something, OR
>>> did I just get the wrong version of Vista?
>>>
>>> Also, does Vista have all the same compatability problems that
>>> WIN64 had? I
>>> know I lost my webcam, printer, most of my video options, etc...
>>>
>>> Thanks!

On 27/11/2006 in message
<240FFD8B-2D94-4F01-8107-D8A159285409@microsoft.com> Chris Mattison wrote:

>It might have been nice to mention clearly that my problem is that I have a
>64x processor, and when I installed I was given no option to install any
>operating system but the 32 bit...I was asking, doesn't Ultimate have
>support
>for both?

There are two down-loads X32 and x64, the latter was pulled due to the
load on the web site, I'm not sure if it's back yet.

I *think* the retail box will include 2 x DVD's so you choose which to
install.

--
Jeff Gaines

Vista 64bit is supplied separately.. driver availability is not good
presently.. some items will never be supported.. the MS Fingerprint reader
is one as it is not seen as something that commerce will not use.. this is a
marker that some stuff made primarily for home use will never be supported
by any manufacturer..

I also have 64bit hardware, but until support for it is way better, the
32bit version is the best bet..



"Chris Mattison" <ChrisMattison@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:240FFD8B-2D94-4F01-8107-D8A159285409@microsoft.com...
> It might have been nice to mention clearly that my problem is that I have
> a
> 64x processor, and when I installed I was given no option to install any
> operating system but the 32 bit...I was asking, doesn't Ultimate have
> support
> for both?
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Hardware is dependent on drivers being available. While it is getting
>> better, there is still a dearth of drivers for x64 operating systems
>> whereas
>> x86 usually has an abundance. The x64 version of Vista Ultimate has quite
>> a
>> bit of built in support, but you still may need a driver from the device
>> manufacturer. All one can reasonably tell you is to try it and see, but
>> make
>> sure you use a test system or install to a second volume as a test. Do
>> not
>> install it on a primary system with irreplacable data until you are a)
>> sure
>> the hardware will function under Vista and b) you have backed up the data
>> so
>> that you can recover it if disaster strikes.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Chris Mattison" <Chris Mattison@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:A3E47722-B5C4-406F-8106-CEA5EAD7C165@microsoft.com...
>> >I just recieved a copy of Vista Ultimate, not knowing what to expect at
>> >all.
>> > I knew a little, such as this operating system does support dual core
>> > and
>> > 64x
>> > processors...
>> >
>> > My problem is, I came to understand that Vista Ultimate has everything,
>> > including being able to support both 86x and 64x, there being some
>> > option
>> > during the install.
>> >
>> > So, basically...am I completely wrong, or did I miss something, OR did
>> > I
>> > just get the wrong version of Vista?
>> >
>> > Also, does Vista have all the same compatability problems that WIN64
>> > had?
>> > I
>> > know I lost my webcam, printer, most of my video options, etc...
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>>
>>

Bioboffin wrote:

> Another third party news item today:
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/index.php?p=171
>
> "Microsoft has decided, sensibly, that it won't include the 64-bit version
> of Vista in any of its retail boxes; you'll have to order a DVD and have it
> shipped separately."
>
> Could be more mis-information, but it sounds plausible.
>

John:

If true, this is extremely bad news, IMHO. And a mistake.

David Wilkinson

David Wilkinson wrote:
> Bioboffin wrote:
>
>> Another third party news item today:
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/index.php?p=171
>>
>> "Microsoft has decided, sensibly, that it won't include the 64-bit
>> version of Vista in any of its retail boxes; you'll have to order a
>> DVD and have it shipped separately."
>>
>> Could be more mis-information, but it sounds plausible.

> If true, this is extremely bad news, IMHO. And a mistake.
>
> David Wilkinson

I agree. Daryll Gorter (MSFT) posted that only the ultimate edition would
include both x86 and x64 versions in the box. No indication of whether that
was the upgrade or the full edition only. In this matter, the devil is in
the detail. We have to await developments.

--

John

It is on MSDN again.

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:xn0eu7t1915l7kf000@msnews.microsoft.com...
> On 27/11/2006 in message
> <240FFD8B-2D94-4F01-8107-D8A159285409@microsoft.com> Chris Mattison wrote:
>
>>It might have been nice to mention clearly that my problem is that I have
>>a
>>64x processor, and when I installed I was given no option to install any
>>operating system but the 32 bit...I was asking, doesn't Ultimate have
>>support
>>for both?
>
> There are two down-loads X32 and x64, the latter was pulled due to the
> load on the web site, I'm not sure if it's back yet.
>
> I *think* the retail box will include 2 x DVD's so you choose which to
> install.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines

There are separate dvd's for x86 and x64. You install the one you want.
Both work equally well on 64bit processors so you pick. Dual core
processors are supported by all versions of XP as well.

"Chris Mattison" <Chris Mattison@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A3E47722-B5C4-406F-8106-CEA5EAD7C165@microsoft.com...
>I just recieved a copy of Vista Ultimate, not knowing what to expect at
>all.
> I knew a little, such as this operating system does support dual core and
> 64x
> processors...
>
> My problem is, I came to understand that Vista Ultimate has everything,
> including being able to support both 86x and 64x, there being some option
> during the install.
>
> So, basically...am I completely wrong, or did I miss something, OR did I
> just get the wrong version of Vista?
>
> Also, does Vista have all the same compatability problems that WIN64 had?
> I
> know I lost my webcam, printer, most of my video options, etc...
>
> Thanks!