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File Backup Question
  1. #1


    Gordon Biggar Guest

    File Backup Question

    I occasionally (every 3 months) back up my hard drives (I am using three
    computers, all similarly configured) to an external storage device. I tend
    to back up the My Documents folders somewhat more frequently (monthly). My
    two desktops are Vista 64s, and the laptop is a Vista 32-bit. I use the
    laptop as the master, so to speak, and will occasionally update the My
    Documents folders of the desktops from this machine.



    As one might expect, I sometimes overwrite the same file on the desktops
    with an older file from the laptop. What I would really like is an easy to
    use piece of software that updates a file only if it is newer (later time
    stamp) than what is being updated. This would run much more quickly, and
    also prevent me from overwriting newer files.

    Gordon Biggar
    Houston, Texas


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  2. #2


    Gene E. Bloch Guest

    Re: File Backup Question

    On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:28:53 -0500, Gordon Biggar wrote:

    > I occasionally (every 3 months) back up my hard drives (I am using three
    > computers, all similarly configured) to an external storage device. I tend
    > to back up the My Documents folders somewhat more frequently (monthly). My
    > two desktops are Vista 64s, and the laptop is a Vista 32-bit. I use the
    > laptop as the master, so to speak, and will occasionally update the My
    > Documents folders of the desktops from this machine.
    >
    > As one might expect, I sometimes overwrite the same file on the desktops
    > with an older file from the laptop. What I would really like is an easy to
    > use piece of software that updates a file only if it is newer (later time
    > stamp) than what is being updated. This would run much more quickly, and
    > also prevent me from overwriting newer files.
    >
    > Gordon Biggar
    > Houston, Texas
    robocopy, which is part of Windows now. It's a command line app.

    robocpy is supposed to stand for Robust Copy, not robocop...and it's
    complicated, but tends not to overwrite older files.


    --
    Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

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  3. #3


    Nil Guest

    Re: File Backup Question

    On 31 Mar 2010, "Gordon Biggar" <colonel_biggs@newsgroup> wrote
    in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:

    > What I would really like is an easy to use piece of software that
    > updates a file only if it is newer (later time stamp) than what is
    > being updated. This would run much more quickly, and also prevent
    > me from overwriting newer files.
    Look for the Microsoft utility Robocopy. It's a command line copy
    utility that has very flexible options regarding that kind of thing.
    I's not super easy to use, but I think it will do your job better
    than most anything else.

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  4. #4


    Charlie Hoffpauir Guest

    Re: File Backup Question

    On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:37:30 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
    <not-me@newsgroup> wrote:

    >On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:28:53 -0500, Gordon Biggar wrote:
    >

    >> I occasionally (every 3 months) back up my hard drives (I am using three
    >> computers, all similarly configured) to an external storage device. I tend
    >> to back up the My Documents folders somewhat more frequently (monthly). My
    >> two desktops are Vista 64s, and the laptop is a Vista 32-bit. I use the
    >> laptop as the master, so to speak, and will occasionally update the My
    >> Documents folders of the desktops from this machine.
    >>
    >> As one might expect, I sometimes overwrite the same file on the desktops
    >> with an older file from the laptop. What I would really like is an easy to
    >> use piece of software that updates a file only if it is newer (later time
    >> stamp) than what is being updated. This would run much more quickly, and
    >> also prevent me from overwriting newer files.
    >>
    >> Gordon Biggar
    >> Houston, Texas
    >
    >robocopy, which is part of Windows now. It's a command line app.
    >
    >robocpy is supposed to stand for Robust Copy, not robocop...and it's
    >complicated, but tends not to overwrite older files.
    For a somewhat easier to use program, look into RichCopy 4.0. It's
    free, basically Robocopy with a graphical interface. Actually, I
    prefer to use Robocopy (which I use daily, with batch files to
    generate the command line commands), but some prefer RichCopy.
    --
    Charlie Hoffpauir

    Everything is what it is because it got that way....D'Arcy Thompson

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  5. #5


    Nil Guest

    Re: File Backup Question

    On 31 Mar 2010, Charlie Hoffpauir <invalid@newsgroup> wrote in
    microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:

    > For a somewhat easier to use program, look into RichCopy 4.0. It's
    > free, basically Robocopy with a graphical interface. Actually, I
    > prefer to use Robocopy (which I use daily, with batch files to
    > generate the command line commands), but some prefer RichCopy.
    Beware! Richcopy is quite buggy. Some of is options do NOT work as
    advertised. I forget if the overwrite options are among the non-
    working, but if you try it, be very careful! It is a whole lot faster
    than Robocopy, but it might not be worth it if it stomps on your data.

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  6. #6


    Jim Guest

    Re: File Backup Question

    Nil wrote:

    > On 31 Mar 2010, "Gordon Biggar"<colonel_biggs@newsgroup> wrote
    > in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
    >

    >> What I would really like is an easy to use piece of software that
    >> updates a file only if it is newer (later time stamp) than what is
    >> being updated. This would run much more quickly, and also prevent
    >> me from overwriting newer files.
    >
    > Look for the Microsoft utility Robocopy. It's a command line copy
    > utility that has very flexible options regarding that kind of thing.
    > I's not super easy to use, but I think it will do your job better
    > than most anything else.
    I use XCOPY with the /D option in a bat file.

    Jim

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  7. #7


    David Guest

    Re: File Backup Question



    "Jim" <James.Dell@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:hp1qq3$i58$1@newsgroup

    > Nil wrote:

    >> On 31 Mar 2010, "Gordon
    >> Biggar"<colonel_biggs@newsgroup> wrote
    >> in microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:
    >>

    >>> What I would really like is an easy to use piece of
    >>> software that
    >>> updates a file only if it is newer (later time stamp)
    >>> than what is
    >>> being updated. This would run much more quickly, and
    >>> also prevent
    >>> me from overwriting newer files.
    >>
    >> Look for the Microsoft utility Robocopy. It's a command
    >> line copy
    >> utility that has very flexible options regarding that
    >> kind of thing.
    >> I's not super easy to use, but I think it will do your
    >> job better
    >> than most anything else.
    > I use XCOPY with the /D option in a bat file.
    >
    > Jim
    You may want to look into a program called 'SyncBackSE'. It
    is a great piece of software with excellent support. I am
    just a user that uses it to synchronize files between two
    laptop computers over a network.

    David



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  8. #8


    Gordon Biggar Guest

    File Backup Question - test

    There certainly appears to be a lot of support for the ROBOCOPY utility!

    Naturally, I tried it and struck out immediately. I tried to copy the Excel
    Files folder from within the Documents folder as a test to a flash drive. I
    used the following command line (with F: as the location of the flash drive
    in the USB port):

    ROBOCOPY C:\Documents\Excel Files\ F: /MIR

    The system came back and said that it couldn't find the source directory.
    I'm wondering whether we are back to eight-letter file name designations?

    Also, if I were to restore eventually from an external drive, will the
    program overwrite all files that I have on the hard drive, regardless of
    time stamp?

    Thanks for all of the individual responses.

    Gordon



    "Gordon Biggar" <colonel_biggs@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:eyp$6qT0KHA.3652@newsgroup

    > I occasionally (every 3 months) back up my hard drives (I am using three
    > computers, all similarly configured) to an external storage device. I
    > tend to back up the My Documents folders somewhat more frequently
    > (monthly). My two desktops are Vista 64s, and the laptop is a Vista
    > 32-bit. I use the laptop as the master, so to speak, and will
    > occasionally update the My Documents folders of the desktops from this
    > machine.
    >
    > As one might expect, I sometimes overwrite the same file on the desktops
    > with an older file from the laptop. What I would really like is an easy
    > to use piece of software that updates a file only if it is newer (later
    > time stamp) than what is being updated. This would run much more quickly,
    > and also prevent me from overwriting newer files.
    >
    > Gordon Biggar
    > Houston, Texas

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  9. #9


    Charlie Hoffpauir Guest

    Re: File Backup Question - test

    On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:39:47 -0500, "Gordon Biggar"
    <colonel_biggs@newsgroup> wrote:

    >There certainly appears to be a lot of support for the ROBOCOPY utility!
    >
    >Naturally, I tried it and struck out immediately. I tried to copy the Excel
    >Files folder from within the Documents folder as a test to a flash drive. I
    >used the following command line (with F: as the location of the flash drive
    >in the USB port):
    >
    >ROBOCOPY C:\Documents\Excel Files\ F: /MIR
    >
    >The system came back and said that it couldn't find the source directory.
    >I'm wondering whether we are back to eight-letter file name designations?
    >
    >Also, if I were to restore eventually from an external drive, will the
    >program overwrite all files that I have on the hard drive, regardless of
    >time stamp?
    >
    >Thanks for all of the individual responses.
    >
    >Gordon
    >
    Gordon,

    I think the problem is the space in the folder name "Excel Files". Try
    renaming that folder "Excel-Files" and then try the command.

    Also, I find it useful to add a couple of additional switches, namely
    /R:1 and /W:1. So my command would read:

    Robocopy C:\Documents\Excel-files F: /MIR /R:1 /W:1

    or

    Robocopy C:\Documents\Excel-files\ F:\ /MIR /R:1 /W:1

    The trailing backslash doesn't seem to make a difference, but XXCOPY
    recommends it, so I use it when I can remember to do so.

    Type "Help Robocopy" from the command line to see what all the
    available switches do.
    --
    Charlie Hoffpauir

    Everything is what it is because it got that way....D'Arcy Thompson

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