I'm logged in as Administrator.

I go into "Date and Time," select the tab "Internet Time," and then hit
the button "Change settings..."



And I get the error message
"You do not have permission to perform this task.
Please contact your computer administrator for help."

But *I* am the administrator of this computer! I'm logged in as
Administrator!

Any ideas what's wrong with the permissions or something?



-- Steven L.

On 5/19/10, Steven L. posted:

> I'm logged in as Administrator.

> I go into "Date and Time," select the tab "Internet Time," and then hit the
> button "Change settings..."

> And I get the error message
> "You do not have permission to perform this task.
> Please contact your computer administrator for help."

> But *I* am the administrator of this computer! I'm logged in as
> Administrator!

> Any ideas what's wrong with the permissions or something?

> -- Steven L.

Are you an administrator or *the* Administrator?

The account *named* Administrator has all privileges (or most). An
account of type administrator has a more limited set.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Gene E. Bloch" <blochxxxx@newsgroup> wrote:

> The account *named* Administrator has all privileges (or most). An account
> of type administrator has a more limited set.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but can you provide an example?

I *have* seen brain-dead setup programs that test for the built-in
"administrator" account and complain about insufficient privileges if any
other userid is current, but the only special characteristics of the
built-in Administrator account that I'm aware of are that it can't be locked
out, and it's subject to policy settings.

Note that in the newer flavors of Windows there are a number of resources
for which the access control list offers nothing more interesting than
"read" privileges to *any* userid capable of logging on interactively. I
ran into that with Windows 7 when I had to modify the built-in themes, all
of which by default quietly turn off the screensaver.

Joe Morris

On 5/19/10, Joe Morris posted:

> "Gene E. Bloch" <blochxxxx@newsgroup> wrote:

>> The account *named* Administrator has all privileges (or most). An account
>> of type administrator has a more limited set.

> I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but can you provide an example?

I believe I did :-)

But if you didn't understand it:

If you go to Control panel | Add or remove user accounts, you will see
icons representing several users.

One will be *named* Administrator. That one is *the* administrator
account, with maximum privileges.

One might be named Joe Morris. It might be *marked* Administrator under
the user name. That is *an* administrator account with somewhat limited
privileges.

Another might be named Fido (I just made that up). It might be marked
"Standard user". It has very limited privileges.

Others are used by the system, and have no great relevance for the
moment...

On my computer the Guest Account is marked "Guest account is off"; all
of the other accounts on this machines are marked "Password protected"
in addition to what I said above.

> I *have* seen brain-dead setup programs that test for the built-in
> "administrator" account and complain about insufficient privileges if any
> other userid is current, but the only special characteristics of the built-in
> Administrator account that I'm aware of are that it can't be locked out, and
> it's subject to policy settings.

> Note that in the newer flavors of Windows there are a number of resources for
> which the access control list offers nothing more interesting than "read"
> privileges to *any* userid capable of logging on interactively. I ran into
> that with Windows 7 when I had to modify the built-in themes, all of which by
> default quietly turn off the screensaver.

I have to confess to having no experience with what you are talking
about in the above two paragraphs.

> Joe Morris

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Gene E. Bloch" <blochxxxx@newsgroup> wrote:

> On 5/19/10, Joe Morris posted:

>> "Gene E. Bloch" <blochxxxx@newsgroup> wrote:

>

>>> The account *named* Administrator has all privileges (or most). An
>>> account of type administrator has a more limited set.

>

>> I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but can you provide an example?

>
> I believe I did :-)
>
> But if you didn't understand it:
>
> If you go to Control panel | Add or remove user accounts, you will see
> icons representing several users.
>
> One will be *named* Administrator. That one is *the* administrator
> account, with maximum privileges.
>
> One might be named Joe Morris. It might be *marked* Administrator under
> the user name. That is *an* administrator account with somewhat limited
> privileges.
>
> Another might be named Fido (I just made that up). It might be marked
> "Standard user". It has very limited privileges.

For the purpose of managing a Windows system an "administrator" is by
definition a userid that is a member of the "Administrators" group on that
machine.

My question was this: please provide an example of a privilege that is
available to the built-in account named "Administrator" that is not
available to other accounts that are also members of the "Administrators"
group.

Joe Morris

"Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@newsgroup> wrote in message news:ht4gqe02ild@newsgroup

> "Gene E. Bloch" <blochxxxx@newsgroup> wrote:

>> On 5/19/10, Joe Morris posted:

>>> "Gene E. Bloch" <blochxxxx@newsgroup> wrote:

>>

>>>> The account *named* Administrator has all privileges (or most). An
>>>> account of type administrator has a more limited set.

>>

>>> I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but can you provide an example?

>>
>> I believe I did :-)
>>
>> But if you didn't understand it:
>>
>> If you go to Control panel | Add or remove user accounts, you will see
>> icons representing several users.
>>
>> One will be *named* Administrator. That one is *the* administrator
>> account, with maximum privileges.
>>
>> One might be named Joe Morris. It might be *marked* Administrator under
>> the user name. That is *an* administrator account with somewhat limited
>> privileges.
>>
>> Another might be named Fido (I just made that up). It might be marked
>> "Standard user". It has very limited privileges.

>
> For the purpose of managing a Windows system an "administrator" is by
> definition a userid that is a member of the "Administrators" group on that
> machine.
>
> My question was this: please provide an example of a privilege that is
> available to the built-in account named "Administrator" that is not
> available to other accounts that are also members of the "Administrators"
> group.
>
> Joe Morris
>
>

The most obvious example is the built-in Administrator account will never
generate UAC prompts.
An account that is a member of the administrators group will still have to
provide credentials ( OK'ing a dialog box or providing a password or
right-clicking and 'run as administrator') to elevate their privileges.
Log on to a user account with administrative privileges and try to run Regedit.
The UAC prompt stops you and asks for confirmation.
Log on to the Administrators account and run Regedit with no UAC nags.

On 5/20/10, Joe Morris posted:

> "Gene E. Bloch" <blochxxxx@newsgroup> wrote:

>> On 5/19/10, Joe Morris posted:

>>> "Gene E. Bloch" <blochxxxx@newsgroup> wrote:

>>

>>>> The account *named* Administrator has all privileges (or most). An
>>>> account of type administrator has a more limited set.

>>

>>> I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but can you provide an example?

>>
>> I believe I did :-)
>>
>> But if you didn't understand it:
>>
>> If you go to Control panel | Add or remove user accounts, you will see
>> icons representing several users.
>>
>> One will be *named* Administrator. That one is *the* administrator account,
>> with maximum privileges.
>>
>> One might be named Joe Morris. It might be *marked* Administrator under the
>> user name. That is *an* administrator account with somewhat limited
>> privileges.
>>
>> Another might be named Fido (I just made that up). It might be marked
>> "Standard user". It has very limited privileges.

> For the purpose of managing a Windows system an "administrator" is by
> definition a userid that is a member of the "Administrators" group on that
> machine.

> My question was this: please provide an example of a privilege that is
> available to the built-in account named "Administrator" that is not available
> to other accounts that are also members of the "Administrators" group.

> Joe Morris

Actually, your question was, and I quote from your post,
"I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but can you provide an
example?".

Not exactly unambiguous, wouldn't you say?

Anyway, Dave-UK gave an answer to the question after you rephrased it.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)