Vista - Vista Disk Partitioning

I am putting Vista on a test PC (I've gone back to XP on the main PC
because there are so many apps that won't run under Vista).

I deleted the current partitions from the drive I was installing to, set
up a 25GB drive in the Vista install program and let it run. I then went
to add an extended partition in the spare space on the drive and Vista
won't let me - it wants to put another primary partition on.

Are there any tools within Vista to allow me to create an extended
partition?

In the meantime I have booted to a Win98 recovery CD, ripped off the
partition Vista put on (goodness knows what it is, FDISK and Partition
Magic don't recognise it) and set the partitions the way I want them with
FDISK, but that seems an awfully long winded approach.

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Jeff Gaines

Partition Magic 8.01 (the last version from PowewQuest) does not see a drive
that has a partition created by Vista. And, Vista will not install on a
partition created by P.M. During the install you have to delete/create and
then format using the Vista installer.

A drive/partition formatted by Vista will show up as corrupted, along with
an associated error message, when viewed by P.M.

DO NOT allow P.M. to repair. If you do, you will lose all access to the hard
drive

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
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>
> I am putting Vista on a test PC (I've gone back to XP on the main PC
> because there are so many apps that won't run under Vista).
>
> I deleted the current partitions from the drive I was installing to, set
> up a 25GB drive in the Vista install program and let it run. I then went
> to add an extended partition in the spare space on the drive and Vista
> won't let me - it wants to put another primary partition on.
>
> Are there any tools within Vista to allow me to create an extended
> partition?
>
> In the meantime I have booted to a Win98 recovery CD, ripped off the
> partition Vista put on (goodness knows what it is, FDISK and Partition
> Magic don't recognise it) and set the partitions the way I want them with
> FDISK, but that seems an awfully long winded approach.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines

Vista uses a new and better NTFS type format that Partition Magic cannot
see (or do) yet.
That is why your having these issues. The NTFS format as previously known
is no longer being used and FAT32 obviously is out. Maybe a while before
the proper utilities are create that lets you tinker (or test) things out.

I ran into all the same issues a few months ago while testing Vista. Except
for me, I used a different harddrive that I just swapped in and out. That
way I don't mess up my current system.


"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
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>
> I am putting Vista on a test PC (I've gone back to XP on the main PC
> because there are so many apps that won't run under Vista).
>
> I deleted the current partitions from the drive I was installing to, set
> up a 25GB drive in the Vista install program and let it run. I then went
> to add an extended partition in the spare space on the drive and Vista
> won't let me - it wants to put another primary partition on.
>
> Are there any tools within Vista to allow me to create an extended
> partition?
>
> In the meantime I have booted to a Win98 recovery CD, ripped off the
> partition Vista put on (goodness knows what it is, FDISK and Partition
> Magic don't recognise it) and set the partitions the way I want them with
> FDISK, but that seems an awfully long winded approach.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines

Vista will put 3 Primary partitions on a drive and I extended. This is by
default. Doesn't matter how much space you have, if you have less than 3
partitions they will always be Primary. It is only the fourth that becomes
extended.

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John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
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"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
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>
> I am putting Vista on a test PC (I've gone back to XP on the main PC
> because there are so many apps that won't run under Vista).
>
> I deleted the current partitions from the drive I was installing to, set
> up a 25GB drive in the Vista install program and let it run. I then went
> to add an extended partition in the spare space on the drive and Vista
> won't let me - it wants to put another primary partition on.
>
> Are there any tools within Vista to allow me to create an extended
> partition?
>
> In the meantime I have booted to a Win98 recovery CD, ripped off the
> partition Vista put on (goodness knows what it is, FDISK and Partition
> Magic don't recognise it) and set the partitions the way I want them with
> FDISK, but that seems an awfully long winded approach.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines

On 03/12/2006 in message <O9rdMcwFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> John
Barnett MVP wrote:

>Vista will put 3 Primary partitions on a drive and I extended. This is by
>default. Doesn't matter how much space you have, if you have less than 3
>partitions they will always be Primary. It is only the fourth that becomes
>extended.

Is there a reason for that?
I overcame it by using FDISK but that's a pain!

--
Jeff Gaines

We did this to simplify the process of creating partitions. Most end users
don't know or care about the different types of partitions. You can use
Diskpart to work around this--see our blog at
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...ows-vista.aspx
for details. There is also a topic in Help that discusses this.

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"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
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> On 03/12/2006 in message <O9rdMcwFHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> John
> Barnett MVP wrote:
>
>>Vista will put 3 Primary partitions on a drive and I extended. This is by
>>default. Doesn't matter how much space you have, if you have less than 3
>>partitions they will always be Primary. It is only the fourth that becomes
>>extended.
>
> Is there a reason for that?
> I overcame it by using FDISK but that's a pain!
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines

On 04/12/2006 in message <eL9gy67FHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> Jill
Zoeller [MSFT] wrote:

>We did this to simplify the process of creating partitions. Most end users
>don't know or care about the different types of partitions.

It's a pity there's not a professional version of Vista for those of use
who do :-(

>You can use Diskpart to work around this--see our blog at
>http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...ows-vista.aspx
>for details. There is also a topic in Help that discusses this.

I couldn't find anything useful in help, and IE7 is refusing to save the
KB article page, I've saved this post, at least my news reader works.

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Jeff Gaines

If you search for "extended partitions" in Help and Support, the first topic
to appear is "What are partitions and logical drives?" This is the topic
that explains how/when extended partitions are created.

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"Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:xn0euko9m4kpc6002@msnews.microsoft.com...
> On 04/12/2006 in message <eL9gy67FHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> Jill
> Zoeller [MSFT] wrote:
>
>>We did this to simplify the process of creating partitions. Most end users
>>don't know or care about the different types of partitions.
>
> It's a pity there's not a professional version of Vista for those of use
> who do :-(
>
>>You can use Diskpart to work around this--see our blog at
>>http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...ows-vista.aspx
>>for details. There is also a topic in Help that discusses this.
>
> I couldn't find anything useful in help, and IE7 is refusing to save the
> KB article page, I've saved this post, at least my news reader works.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines

Did I miss something?
I have 2 disks in my box, each partitioned with 4 primary partitions.
During the install of both x86 and x64, Vista didn't make any partition changes.
Is this 3 primary, 1 extended partitioning only done on a blank (unpartitioned) disk during a Vista
install?


"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uy4s0W9FHHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| If you search for "extended partitions" in Help and Support, the first topic
| to appear is "What are partitions and logical drives?" This is the topic
| that explains how/when extended partitions are created.
|
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| This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
|
| Want to learn more about Windows Server file and storage technologies? Visit
| our team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
|
|
|
|
| "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
| news:xn0euko9m4kpc6002@msnews.microsoft.com...
| > On 04/12/2006 in message <eL9gy67FHHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> Jill
| > Zoeller [MSFT] wrote:
| >
| >>We did this to simplify the process of creating partitions. Most end users
| >>don't know or care about the different types of partitions.
| >
| > It's a pity there's not a professional version of Vista for those of use
| > who do :-(
| >
| >>You can use Diskpart to work around this--see our blog at
|
>>http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...ows-vista.aspx
| >>for details. There is also a topic in Help that discusses this.
| >
| > I couldn't find anything useful in help, and IE7 is refusing to save the
| > KB article page, I've saved this post, at least my news reader works.
| >
| > --
| > Jeff Gaines
|
|

On 04/12/2006 in message <uy4s0W9FHHA.4464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> Jill
Zoeller [MSFT] wrote:

>If you search for "extended partitions" in Help and Support, the first
>topic to appear is "What are partitions and logical drives?" This is the
>topic that explains how/when extended partitions are created.

I found that, but it doesn't tell me how to create extended partitions -
just that I can't!!!

A search for 'diskpart' ends up back in the same place.

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Jeff Gaines