Vista - Vista books for Christmas?

Does anybody know the status of any books on Vista? I'm working onm my
Christmas list ...

David Wilkinson

David,

Quite a few are hitting now or by January...

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...=Windows+Vista


Bill F.


"David Wilkinson" <no-reply@effisols.com> wrote in message
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> Does anybody know the status of any books on Vista? I'm working onm my
> Christmas list ...
>
> David Wilkinson

Note that some of these books are based on the beta software. The Introducing Vista by William Stanek is pretty good, but you don't want that version of it, there is a fair bit of inaccuracy in it due to changes between beta 2 and RTM. I'm sure he'll release an update now that RTM is out.

Rich
"Bill Frisbee" <wfrisbee@comcastx.net> wrote in message news:uJRGWc0FHHA.2464@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
David,

Quite a few are hitting now or by January...

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...=Windows+Vista


Bill F.


"David Wilkinson" <no-reply@effisols.com> wrote in message
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> Does anybody know the status of any books on Vista? I'm working onm my
> Christmas list ...
>
> David Wilkinson

Most of the better looking titles, like Ed Bott's Inside and Out, are not
going to make Christmas. How about a Barnes and Nobles gift card?

"David Wilkinson" <no-reply@effisols.com> wrote in message
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> Does anybody know the status of any books on Vista? I'm working onm my
> Christmas list ...
>
> David Wilkinson

I'd love one. I really look forward to Ed Bott's book, but I hope he and
his co-author takes their time with it so that they can do the job everyone
knows they can and probably will like Ed has done with his 3 blogs. I'm
amazed at how these guys who write the substantial books are getting info
besides their own innovative experiences with Vista, since MSFT is doing
such a terrible job of providing it on Technet or MSDN or main sites to
date. I remember hearing from some of them that the info from MSFT was like
squeezing blood out of a turnip and spinnin' straw outta gold.

I noticed Imusic cards all over stores too. Those are gifts anyone could
use.

CH


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarhars@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Most of the better looking titles, like Ed Bott's Inside and Out, are not
> going to make Christmas. How about a Barnes and Nobles gift card?
>
> "David Wilkinson" <no-reply@effisols.com> wrote in message
> news:uPPDrY0FHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Does anybody know the status of any books on Vista? I'm working onm my
>> Christmas list ...
>>
>> David Wilkinson
>

They have NDA agreements specifically for this. They have been looking over
MS's shoulder since early on.

"Chad Harris" <msftneedstogetoutvistainfo.net> wrote in message
news:u5rhQz8FHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I'd love one. I really look forward to Ed Bott's book, but I hope he and
> his co-author takes their time with it so that they can do the job
> everyone knows they can and probably will like Ed has done with his 3
> blogs. I'm amazed at how these guys who write the substantial books are
> getting info besides their own innovative experiences with Vista, since
> MSFT is doing such a terrible job of providing it on Technet or MSDN or
> main sites to date. I remember hearing from some of them that the info
> from MSFT was like squeezing blood out of a turnip and spinnin' straw
> outta gold.
>
> I noticed Imusic cards all over stores too. Those are gifts anyone could
> use.
>

I'm glad someone will be getting out some substantive info on Vista because
it sure as hell has not been Microsoft to date.

CH


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarhars@msn.com> wrote in message
news:937FF35E-F1DF-4F86-82D6-A3C581BA3AB5@microsoft.com...
> They have NDA agreements specifically for this. They have been looking
> over MS's shoulder since early on.
>
> "Chad Harris" <msftneedstogetoutvistainfo.net> wrote in message
> news:u5rhQz8FHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I'd love one. I really look forward to Ed Bott's book, but I hope he and
>> his co-author takes their time with it so that they can do the job
>> everyone knows they can and probably will like Ed has done with his 3
>> blogs. I'm amazed at how these guys who write the substantial books are
>> getting info besides their own innovative experiences with Vista, since
>> MSFT is doing such a terrible job of providing it on Technet or MSDN or
>> main sites to date. I remember hearing from some of them that the info
>> from MSFT was like squeezing blood out of a turnip and spinnin' straw
>> outta gold.
>>
>> I noticed Imusic cards all over stores too. Those are gifts anyone could
>> use.
>>
>

I can find gigabytes of information on Vista from Microsoft on the MSDN
site.
From using the new GUI features, API changes, Security Center stuff, driver
information...

I have no clue what you are talking about.

In fact a quick check shows over 20 gig of programming data for those
serious about Vista.


Bill F.


"Chad Harris" <msftneedstogetoutvistainfo.net> wrote in message
news:uXSUot$FHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I'm glad someone will be getting out some substantive info on Vista
> because it sure as hell has not been Microsoft to date.
>
> CH
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarhars@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:937FF35E-F1DF-4F86-82D6-A3C581BA3AB5@microsoft.com...
>> They have NDA agreements specifically for this. They have been looking
>> over MS's shoulder since early on.
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <msftneedstogetoutvistainfo.net> wrote in message
>> news:u5rhQz8FHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I'd love one. I really look forward to Ed Bott's book, but I hope he
>>> and his co-author takes their time with it so that they can do the job
>>> everyone knows they can and probably will like Ed has done with his 3
>>> blogs. I'm amazed at how these guys who write the substantial books
>>> are getting info besides their own innovative experiences with Vista,
>>> since MSFT is doing such a terrible job of providing it on Technet or
>>> MSDN or main sites to date. I remember hearing from some of them that
>>> the info from MSFT was like squeezing blood out of a turnip and spinnin'
>>> straw outta gold.
>>>
>>> I noticed Imusic cards all over stores too. Those are gifts anyone could
>>> use.
>>>
>>
>

I'm talking about substantive articles on major Vista features like Win RE.
You have to go to the MSDN blogs for those, or the Technet blogs, and most
customers don't know they exist. Most Windows users will never lift a
finger and flex it towards Help in Vista and they didn't in XP. A lot of
their questions would have been answered if they had. Likewise, most users
will never touch a KB article. They didn't during XP and they won't during
Vista.

You can't produce a significant article on Win RE or Startup Repair on any
MSFT public site. Their is a Win RE blog. I've linked it many times,
including before you started polluting this group with the Frissbee whining
and anything but substantive help on issues for people. The team has yet to
address why startup repair which is the major point guard for fixing a no
boot Vista doesn't work a high percentage of the time compared with a repair
install in Win XP. Win RE and a Repair Install cannot be accesseed without
a Vista DVD or an XP CD respectively.

Startup Repair gets a couple sentences in the so-called Vista RTM
(cheerleading with little substantive technical info) Product Guide.

How's your FBI ISP campaign to strike out at posts you don't like
progressing little man.

LOL

CH


"Bill Frisbee" <wfrisbee@comcastx.net> wrote in message
news:5F7D8463-997A-44FD-8BDD-8426FE9E2224@microsoft.com...
>I can find gigabytes of information on Vista from Microsoft on the MSDN
>site.
> From using the new GUI features, API changes, Security Center stuff,
> driver information...
>
> I have no clue what you are talking about.
>
> In fact a quick check shows over 20 gig of programming data for those
> serious about Vista.
>
>
> Bill F.
>
>
> "Chad Harris" <msftneedstogetoutvistainfo.net> wrote in message
> news:uXSUot$FHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I'm glad someone will be getting out some substantive info on Vista
>> because it sure as hell has not been Microsoft to date.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarhars@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:937FF35E-F1DF-4F86-82D6-A3C581BA3AB5@microsoft.com...
>>> They have NDA agreements specifically for this. They have been looking
>>> over MS's shoulder since early on.
>>>
>>> "Chad Harris" <msftneedstogetoutvistainfo.net> wrote in message
>>> news:u5rhQz8FHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> I'd love one. I really look forward to Ed Bott's book, but I hope he
>>>> and his co-author takes their time with it so that they can do the job
>>>> everyone knows they can and probably will like Ed has done with his 3
>>>> blogs. I'm amazed at how these guys who write the substantial books
>>>> are getting info besides their own innovative experiences with Vista,
>>>> since MSFT is doing such a terrible job of providing it on Technet or
>>>> MSDN or main sites to date. I remember hearing from some of them that
>>>> the info from MSFT was like squeezing blood out of a turnip and
>>>> spinnin' straw outta gold.
>>>>
>>>> I noticed Imusic cards all over stores too. Those are gifts anyone
>>>> could use.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

David Wilkinson wrote:

> Does anybody know the status of any books on Vista? I'm working onm my
> Christmas list ...
>
> David Wilkinson

Thanks for the info, everybody. I guess it's going to have to wait. I
liked the Bott/Siechert book on XP so I will probabaly get that when it
comes out.

David Wilkinson