Vista - Upgrade edition VS Full edition

I just wonder if the upgrade edition DVD and full edition DVD are identical.
That is, only the product-key tells the difference.
Right after enter a product-key, if it is a upgrade key, then setup will
proceed only if an activated XP is found.

Or both disc are different, upgrade edition just not bootable ???

it should be bootable and during a fresh install it will ask you for your
windows xp install disc to verify that you do own windows xp. then it will
go back to installing vista.

-jeff
"Bobby" <bobby@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I just wonder if the upgrade edition DVD and full edition DVD are
>identical.
> That is, only the product-key tells the difference.
> Right after enter a product-key, if it is a upgrade key, then setup will
> proceed only if an activated XP is found.
>
> Or both disc are different, upgrade edition just not bootable ???
>
>

"Jeff" <jeffscomp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> it should be bootable and during a fresh install it will ask you for
> your windows xp install disc to verify that you do own windows xp.
> then it will go back to installing vista.


All indications so far suggest that the DVD will be bootable, but the
ONLY way to install with an upgrade disc is if you run it from an
installed and activated Windows OS on your computer. The old method of
using a CD to verify media will not be an option.

You can still do something similar to a clean install of Vista, but
the old copy of Windows and all folders and files will be left on the
drive in a new folder called "Windows.old", which can be safely
deleted once you copy over any files you want to keep.

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Happy Holidays!

I take it this means that if I am running nothing but a Vista RC 1
installation presently that it will not be possible to install the release
version from an upgrade DVD without first reinstalling and activating XP?

"Bill" <bill@c.a> wrote in message
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>
> All indications so far suggest that the DVD will be bootable, but the ONLY
> way to install with an upgrade disc is if you run it from an installed and
> activated Windows OS on your computer. The old method of using a CD to
> verify media will not be an option.
>
> You can still do something similar to a clean install of Vista, but the
> old copy of Windows and all folders and files will be left on the drive in
> a new folder called "Windows.old", which can be safely deleted once you
> copy over any files you want to keep.
>
> --
> Happy Holidays!
>

Correct.

"Kevin Young" <ky-nntp@sent.com> wrote in message
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>I take it this means that if I am running nothing but a Vista RC 1
>installation presently that it will not be possible to install the release
>version from an upgrade DVD without first reinstalling and activating XP?

The Upgrade Edition is bootable, but you cannot install Windows with a UE
product key. When you enter it you will be instructed to reboot into your
legacy OS and run Setup from there. Vista UEs do not request shiny media.
Either your running OS qualifies you or you must use a full edition to
install.

"Jeff" <jeffscomp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> it should be bootable and during a fresh install it will ask you for your
> windows xp install disc to verify that you do own windows xp. then it will
> go back to installing vista.
>

so i can still use Upgrade edition DVD to install Vista on a blank hard disk
if I choose not to enter a Product-code, and just want to test the Vista for
30 days, right?


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com>
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> The Upgrade Edition is bootable, but you cannot install Windows with a UE
> product key. When you enter it you will be instructed to reboot into your
> legacy OS and run Setup from there. Vista UEs do not request shiny media.
> Either your running OS qualifies you or you must use a full edition to
> install.
>
> "Jeff" <jeffscomp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uOTPgA0GHHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> it should be bootable and during a fresh install it will ask you for your
>> windows xp install disc to verify that you do own windows xp. then it
>> will go back to installing vista.
>>
>

Correct. It is the product key that turns the dvd into an Upgrade Edition.
However, don't try it with a volume license dvd. Darrell Gorter (MSFT) told
us a couple of weeks ago that those dvd's are not bootable. He didn't say
why.

"Bobby" <bobby@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> so i can still use Upgrade edition DVD to install Vista on a blank hard
> disk if I choose not to enter a Product-code, and just want to test the
> Vista for 30 days, right?
>
>

Hello Colin,

Can you upgrade to Vista from a working OEM XP system?

Alan

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Correct.
>
> "Kevin Young" <ky-nntp@sent.com> wrote in message
> news:B1C65E30-D747-4E81-B82F-3CE37692E197@microsoft.com...
>>I take it this means that if I am running nothing but a Vista RC 1
>>installation presently that it will not be possible to install the release
>>version from an upgrade DVD without first reinstalling and activating XP?
>

Yes. Most XP systems are OEM since 95% of XP is sold preinstalled by OEM's.

"Alan" <somewhere@nospam.pew> wrote in message
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> Hello Colin,
>
> Can you upgrade to Vista from a working OEM XP system?
>
> Alan
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:OjgBlx0GHHA.4112@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Correct.
>>
>> "Kevin Young" <ky-nntp@sent.com> wrote in message
>> news:B1C65E30-D747-4E81-B82F-3CE37692E197@microsoft.com...
>>>I take it this means that if I am running nothing but a Vista RC 1
>>>installation presently that it will not be possible to install the
>>>release version from an upgrade DVD without first reinstalling and
>>>activating XP?
>>
>
>