Vista - Vista x64 Enterprise RTM

I installed Vista x64 Enterprise RTM on my back-up computer first before
updating my main computer to find any incompatibilities. Since this computer
has multiple operating systems, I installed BitLocker following the
installation guide at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
Formatting the hard drive, installing the operating system and BitLocker
took about 30 minutes without any problems. The only drivers that didn't
install were the Audigy 2zs and Leadtek WinFast TV2000XP Expert, which
aren't available yet. The USR5610b modem drivers installed with the
operating system and the Vista fax program works the same as XP. The Epson
Stylus CX4800 printer/scanner installed using x64 drivers and functions
fully. Nod32 (AV) installs and functions fully. Office 2007, Works 8 and the
Works 8 update install without any of the conflicts that were present with
the Office 2007 beta. Quicken 2006 installs properly but crashes when
searching for the requested data file after installation. The cure for the
crash is to install Quicken 2006 then close the program, use windows
explorer to locate the requested file then double click it, Quicken 2006
will open with the requested file and no other problems occur. The driver
issue is an obstacle but the official release date for the operating system
is still over 30 days away, The Leadtek x64 drivers were supposed to be
released in June, 2005 and I'm still using unofficial beta drivers with x64.
I must have done something wrong with my installation because I haven't had
any of the problems that the trolls were forecasting. May everybody in this
newsgroup have a happy holiday season, this is a great holiday season for me
health wise.

--
Dennis Pack
Vista x64 Enterprise
Office 2007

And a Happy Holidays to you too, Dennis. Nice post.

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news44C44D0-30B0-4406-8BEF-D5EC35D358BE@microsoft.com...
>I installed Vista x64 Enterprise RTM on my back-up computer first before
>updating my main computer to find any incompatibilities. Since this
>computer has multiple operating systems, I installed BitLocker following
>the installation guide at
>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>Formatting the hard drive, installing the operating system and BitLocker
>took about 30 minutes without any problems. The only drivers that didn't
>install were the Audigy 2zs and Leadtek WinFast TV2000XP Expert, which
>aren't available yet. The USR5610b modem drivers installed with the
>operating system and the Vista fax program works the same as XP. The Epson
>Stylus CX4800 printer/scanner installed using x64 drivers and functions
>fully. Nod32 (AV) installs and functions fully. Office 2007, Works 8 and
>the Works 8 update install without any of the conflicts that were present
>with the Office 2007 beta. Quicken 2006 installs properly but crashes when
>searching for the requested data file after installation. The cure for the
>crash is to install Quicken 2006 then close the program, use windows
>explorer to locate the requested file then double click it, Quicken 2006
>will open with the requested file and no other problems occur. The driver
>issue is an obstacle but the official release date for the operating system
>is still over 30 days away, The Leadtek x64 drivers were supposed to be
>released in June, 2005 and I'm still using unofficial beta drivers with
>x64. I must have done something wrong with my installation because I
>haven't had any of the problems that the trolls were forecasting. May
>everybody in this newsgroup have a happy holiday season, this is a great
>holiday season for me health wise.
>
> --
> Dennis Pack
> Vista x64 Enterprise
> Office 2007

Colin:
Thank you for the reply and compliment.


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
news:5D5D7F00-556E-465C-B7E2-0F478BFFB31A@microsoft.com...
> And a Happy Holidays to you too, Dennis. Nice post.
>
> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news44C44D0-30B0-4406-8BEF-D5EC35D358BE@microsoft.com...
>>I installed Vista x64 Enterprise RTM on my back-up computer first before
>>updating my main computer to find any incompatibilities. Since this
>>computer has multiple operating systems, I installed BitLocker following
>>the installation guide at
>>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>>Formatting the hard drive, installing the operating system and BitLocker
>>took about 30 minutes without any problems. The only drivers that didn't
>>install were the Audigy 2zs and Leadtek WinFast TV2000XP Expert, which
>>aren't available yet. The USR5610b modem drivers installed with the
>>operating system and the Vista fax program works the same as XP. The Epson
>>Stylus CX4800 printer/scanner installed using x64 drivers and functions
>>fully. Nod32 (AV) installs and functions fully. Office 2007, Works 8 and
>>the Works 8 update install without any of the conflicts that were present
>>with the Office 2007 beta. Quicken 2006 installs properly but crashes when
>>searching for the requested data file after installation. The cure for the
>>crash is to install Quicken 2006 then close the program, use windows
>>explorer to locate the requested file then double click it, Quicken 2006
>>will open with the requested file and no other problems occur. The driver
>>issue is an obstacle but the official release date for the operating
>>system is still over 30 days away, The Leadtek x64 drivers were supposed
>>to be released in June, 2005 and I'm still using unofficial beta drivers
>>with x64. I must have done something wrong with my installation because I
>>haven't had any of the problems that the trolls were forecasting. May
>>everybody in this newsgroup have a happy holiday season, this is a great
>>holiday season for me health wise.
>>
>> --
>> Dennis Pack
>> Vista x64 Enterprise
>> Office 2007
>

I'm in the same boat.

I've been running Vista x64 RTM since 17th November - it appeared on
MSDn the evening of 16th (UK time) and I had it downloading at
500KB/s before the servers got swamped (when the download finished it
was arriving at about 20KB/s!).

Anyway, I installed it as soon as I could. Here's my software stack:

Vista Ultimate x64 RTM
NOD32 2.7
Office 2007 Professional RTM (MSDN also)
Nero 7.5.9.0
UltraEdit 32
WinZip 11
Forte Agent 4.something
Photoshop CS2 (CS3, due next spring, should be even better w/ Vista)
Memory-Map
Virtual Server 2005 SP1 Beta 2


The only software from my "Normal build" which had issues was:

PowerDVD 7 - it runs, but disables Aero.
Nebula DigiTv (no 64-bit drivers yet)
My Canon Lide50 scanner has no 64-drivers


So all in all, 90% of my normal build runs on Vista x64.

I had to install Virtual Server 2005 to have an XP machine, as I still
use Visual Studio 6 and that doesn't run well on Vista.
Unsurprisingly, it's device drivers which are the biggest issue.

So, the trolls and doom-bringers can say what they like; but for me
(and you) things work well!


Jim




On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:43:42 -0500, "Dennis Pack"
<dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>Colin:
> Thank you for the reply and compliment.
>
>
>"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:5D5D7F00-556E-465C-B7E2-0F478BFFB31A@microsoft.com...
>> And a Happy Holidays to you too, Dennis. Nice post.
>>
>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news44C44D0-30B0-4406-8BEF-D5EC35D358BE@microsoft.com...
>>>I installed Vista x64 Enterprise RTM on my back-up computer first before
>>>updating my main computer to find any incompatibilities. Since this
>>>computer has multiple operating systems, I installed BitLocker following
>>>the installation guide at
>>>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>>>Formatting the hard drive, installing the operating system and BitLocker
>>>took about 30 minutes without any problems. The only drivers that didn't
>>>install were the Audigy 2zs and Leadtek WinFast TV2000XP Expert, which
>>>aren't available yet. The USR5610b modem drivers installed with the
>>>operating system and the Vista fax program works the same as XP. The Epson
>>>Stylus CX4800 printer/scanner installed using x64 drivers and functions
>>>fully. Nod32 (AV) installs and functions fully. Office 2007, Works 8 and
>>>the Works 8 update install without any of the conflicts that were present
>>>with the Office 2007 beta. Quicken 2006 installs properly but crashes when
>>>searching for the requested data file after installation. The cure for the
>>>crash is to install Quicken 2006 then close the program, use windows
>>>explorer to locate the requested file then double click it, Quicken 2006
>>>will open with the requested file and no other problems occur. The driver
>>>issue is an obstacle but the official release date for the operating
>>>system is still over 30 days away, The Leadtek x64 drivers were supposed
>>>to be released in June, 2005 and I'm still using unofficial beta drivers
>>>with x64. I must have done something wrong with my installation because I
>>>haven't had any of the problems that the trolls were forecasting. May
>>>everybody in this newsgroup have a happy holiday season, this is a great
>>>holiday season for me health wise.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dennis Pack
>>> Vista x64 Enterprise
>>> Office 2007
>>

Hardly sounds like an 'evaluation' machine.


"Jim" <jim@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:svs9o2lhqkjnk98b1vmd7rgagie2139ap6@4ax.com...
> I'm in the same boat.
>
> I've been running Vista x64 RTM since 17th November - it appeared on
> MSDn the evening of 16th (UK time) and I had it downloading at
> 500KB/s before the servers got swamped (when the download finished it
> was arriving at about 20KB/s!).
>
> Anyway, I installed it as soon as I could. Here's my software stack:
>
> Vista Ultimate x64 RTM
> NOD32 2.7
> Office 2007 Professional RTM (MSDN also)
> Nero 7.5.9.0
> UltraEdit 32
> WinZip 11
> Forte Agent 4.something
> Photoshop CS2 (CS3, due next spring, should be even better w/ Vista)
> Memory-Map
> Virtual Server 2005 SP1 Beta 2
>
>
> The only software from my "Normal build" which had issues was:
>
> PowerDVD 7 - it runs, but disables Aero.
> Nebula DigiTv (no 64-bit drivers yet)
> My Canon Lide50 scanner has no 64-drivers
>
>
> So all in all, 90% of my normal build runs on Vista x64.
>
> I had to install Virtual Server 2005 to have an XP machine, as I still
> use Visual Studio 6 and that doesn't run well on Vista.
> Unsurprisingly, it's device drivers which are the biggest issue.
>
> So, the trolls and doom-bringers can say what they like; but for me
> (and you) things work well!
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:43:42 -0500, "Dennis Pack"
> <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Colin:
>> Thank you for the reply and compliment.
>>
>>
>>"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:5D5D7F00-556E-465C-B7E2-0F478BFFB31A@microsoft.com...
>>> And a Happy Holidays to you too, Dennis. Nice post.
>>>
>>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news44C44D0-30B0-4406-8BEF-D5EC35D358BE@microsoft.com...
>>>>I installed Vista x64 Enterprise RTM on my back-up computer first before
>>>>updating my main computer to find any incompatibilities. Since this
>>>>computer has multiple operating systems, I installed BitLocker following
>>>>the installation guide at
>>>>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>>>>Formatting the hard drive, installing the operating system and BitLocker
>>>>took about 30 minutes without any problems. The only drivers that didn't
>>>>install were the Audigy 2zs and Leadtek WinFast TV2000XP Expert, which
>>>>aren't available yet. The USR5610b modem drivers installed with the
>>>>operating system and the Vista fax program works the same as XP. The
>>>>Epson
>>>>Stylus CX4800 printer/scanner installed using x64 drivers and functions
>>>>fully. Nod32 (AV) installs and functions fully. Office 2007, Works 8 and
>>>>the Works 8 update install without any of the conflicts that were
>>>>present
>>>>with the Office 2007 beta. Quicken 2006 installs properly but crashes
>>>>when
>>>>searching for the requested data file after installation. The cure for
>>>>the
>>>>crash is to install Quicken 2006 then close the program, use windows
>>>>explorer to locate the requested file then double click it, Quicken 2006
>>>>will open with the requested file and no other problems occur. The
>>>>driver
>>>>issue is an obstacle but the official release date for the operating
>>>>system is still over 30 days away, The Leadtek x64 drivers were supposed
>>>>to be released in June, 2005 and I'm still using unofficial beta drivers
>>>>with x64. I must have done something wrong with my installation because
>>>>I
>>>>haven't had any of the problems that the trolls were forecasting. May
>>>>everybody in this newsgroup have a happy holiday season, this is a great
>>>>holiday season for me health wise.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dennis Pack
>>>> Vista x64 Enterprise
>>>> Office 2007
>>>

It is. I'm evaluating Vista to test for compatibility with ahrdware
and software, and this si the standard stack that we use internally
(except for DigiTv of course).

So what's it to you?



Jim

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:22:44 +1100, "Mr. Vista" <Mr. Vista@lhere.com>
wrote:

>Hardly sounds like an 'evaluation' machine.
>
>
>"Jim" <jim@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:svs9o2lhqkjnk98b1vmd7rgagie2139ap6@4ax.com...
>> I'm in the same boat.
>>
>> I've been running Vista x64 RTM since 17th November - it appeared on
>> MSDn the evening of 16th (UK time) and I had it downloading at
>> 500KB/s before the servers got swamped (when the download finished it
>> was arriving at about 20KB/s!).
>>
>> Anyway, I installed it as soon as I could. Here's my software stack:
>>
>> Vista Ultimate x64 RTM
>> NOD32 2.7
>> Office 2007 Professional RTM (MSDN also)
>> Nero 7.5.9.0
>> UltraEdit 32
>> WinZip 11
>> Forte Agent 4.something
>> Photoshop CS2 (CS3, due next spring, should be even better w/ Vista)
>> Memory-Map
>> Virtual Server 2005 SP1 Beta 2
>>
>>
>> The only software from my "Normal build" which had issues was:
>>
>> PowerDVD 7 - it runs, but disables Aero.
>> Nebula DigiTv (no 64-bit drivers yet)
>> My Canon Lide50 scanner has no 64-drivers
>>
>>
>> So all in all, 90% of my normal build runs on Vista x64.
>>
>> I had to install Virtual Server 2005 to have an XP machine, as I still
>> use Visual Studio 6 and that doesn't run well on Vista.
>> Unsurprisingly, it's device drivers which are the biggest issue.
>>
>> So, the trolls and doom-bringers can say what they like; but for me
>> (and you) things work well!
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:43:42 -0500, "Dennis Pack"
>> <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Colin:
>>> Thank you for the reply and compliment.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
>>>news:5D5D7F00-556E-465C-B7E2-0F478BFFB31A@microsoft.com...
>>>> And a Happy Holidays to you too, Dennis. Nice post.
>>>>
>>>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news44C44D0-30B0-4406-8BEF-D5EC35D358BE@microsoft.com...
>>>>>I installed Vista x64 Enterprise RTM on my back-up computer first before
>>>>>updating my main computer to find any incompatibilities. Since this
>>>>>computer has multiple operating systems, I installed BitLocker following
>>>>>the installation guide at
>>>>>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>>>>>Formatting the hard drive, installing the operating system and BitLocker
>>>>>took about 30 minutes without any problems. The only drivers that didn't
>>>>>install were the Audigy 2zs and Leadtek WinFast TV2000XP Expert, which
>>>>>aren't available yet. The USR5610b modem drivers installed with the
>>>>>operating system and the Vista fax program works the same as XP. The
>>>>>Epson
>>>>>Stylus CX4800 printer/scanner installed using x64 drivers and functions
>>>>>fully. Nod32 (AV) installs and functions fully. Office 2007, Works 8 and
>>>>>the Works 8 update install without any of the conflicts that were
>>>>>present
>>>>>with the Office 2007 beta. Quicken 2006 installs properly but crashes
>>>>>when
>>>>>searching for the requested data file after installation. The cure for
>>>>>the
>>>>>crash is to install Quicken 2006 then close the program, use windows
>>>>>explorer to locate the requested file then double click it, Quicken 2006
>>>>>will open with the requested file and no other problems occur. The
>>>>>driver
>>>>>issue is an obstacle but the official release date for the operating
>>>>>system is still over 30 days away, The Leadtek x64 drivers were supposed
>>>>>to be released in June, 2005 and I'm still using unofficial beta drivers
>>>>>with x64. I must have done something wrong with my installation because
>>>>>I
>>>>>haven't had any of the problems that the trolls were forecasting. May
>>>>>everybody in this newsgroup have a happy holiday season, this is a great
>>>>>holiday season for me health wise.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dennis Pack
>>>>> Vista x64 Enterprise
>>>>> Office 2007
>>>>
>

Nice complete post. Nice to hear you are over your health problems. Back
at work? Thanks for your help this year.

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news44C44D0-30B0-4406-8BEF-D5EC35D358BE@microsoft.com...
>I installed Vista x64 Enterprise RTM on my back-up computer first before
>updating my main computer to find any incompatibilities. Since this
>computer has multiple operating systems, I installed BitLocker following
>the installation guide at
>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>Formatting the hard drive, installing the operating system and BitLocker
>took about 30 minutes without any problems. The only drivers that didn't
>install were the Audigy 2zs and Leadtek WinFast TV2000XP Expert, which
>aren't available yet. The USR5610b modem drivers installed with the
>operating system and the Vista fax program works the same as XP. The Epson
>Stylus CX4800 printer/scanner installed using x64 drivers and functions
>fully. Nod32 (AV) installs and functions fully. Office 2007, Works 8 and
>the Works 8 update install without any of the conflicts that were present
>with the Office 2007 beta. Quicken 2006 installs properly but crashes when
>searching for the requested data file after installation. The cure for the
>crash is to install Quicken 2006 then close the program, use windows
>explorer to locate the requested file then double click it, Quicken 2006
>will open with the requested file and no other problems occur. The driver
>issue is an obstacle but the official release date for the operating system
>is still over 30 days away, The Leadtek x64 drivers were supposed to be
>released in June, 2005 and I'm still using unofficial beta drivers with
>x64. I must have done something wrong with my installation because I
>haven't had any of the problems that the trolls were forecasting. May
>everybody in this newsgroup have a happy holiday season, this is a great
>holiday season for me health wise.
>
> --
> Dennis Pack
> Vista x64 Enterprise
> Office 2007

John:
Thank you for the compliment and concern. I'm not back to work yet,
but I wish that I was. The doctor indicates February, 2007 tentatively. My
last chemotherapy session was a week ago and it will take about 2 more weeks
until my system stabilizes, then my immune system will start to rebuild
normally. The vocal cord surgery was successful, now I can talk with enough
volume to be understood, which is a necessity because I work as a technical
consultant on the telephone all day. Have a great holiday season.

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:u5aSUeeIHHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Nice complete post. Nice to hear you are over your health problems. Back
> at work? Thanks for your help this year.
>
> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news44C44D0-30B0-4406-8BEF-D5EC35D358BE@microsoft.com...
>>I installed Vista x64 Enterprise RTM on my back-up computer first before
>>updating my main computer to find any incompatibilities. Since this
>>computer has multiple operating systems, I installed BitLocker following
>>the installation guide at
>>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>>Formatting the hard drive, installing the operating system and BitLocker
>>took about 30 minutes without any problems. The only drivers that didn't
>>install were the Audigy 2zs and Leadtek WinFast TV2000XP Expert, which
>>aren't available yet. The USR5610b modem drivers installed with the
>>operating system and the Vista fax program works the same as XP. The Epson
>>Stylus CX4800 printer/scanner installed using x64 drivers and functions
>>fully. Nod32 (AV) installs and functions fully. Office 2007, Works 8 and
>>the Works 8 update install without any of the conflicts that were present
>>with the Office 2007 beta. Quicken 2006 installs properly but crashes when
>>searching for the requested data file after installation. The cure for the
>>crash is to install Quicken 2006 then close the program, use windows
>>explorer to locate the requested file then double click it, Quicken 2006
>>will open with the requested file and no other problems occur. The driver
>>issue is an obstacle but the official release date for the operating
>>system is still over 30 days away, The Leadtek x64 drivers were supposed
>>to be released in June, 2005 and I'm still using unofficial beta drivers
>>with x64. I must have done something wrong with my installation because I
>>haven't had any of the problems that the trolls were forecasting. May
>>everybody in this newsgroup have a happy holiday season, this is a great
>>holiday season for me health wise.
>>
>> --
>> Dennis Pack
>> Vista x64 Enterprise
>> Office 2007
>

Glad to hear your return to work is reasonably close and that you are going
to be able to function at your specialty. Hope everything continues to get
better. Have an Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year.

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:89288BF1-E983-43BE-A6CB-58EEC13A40F7@microsoft.com...
> John:
> Thank you for the compliment and concern. I'm not back to work yet,
> but I wish that I was. The doctor indicates February, 2007 tentatively. My
> last chemotherapy session was a week ago and it will take about 2 more
> weeks until my system stabilizes, then my immune system will start to
> rebuild normally. The vocal cord surgery was successful, now I can talk
> with enough volume to be understood, which is a necessity because I work
> as a technical consultant on the telephone all day. Have a great holiday
> season.
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:u5aSUeeIHHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Nice complete post. Nice to hear you are over your health problems.
>> Back at work? Thanks for your help this year.
>>
>> "Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news44C44D0-30B0-4406-8BEF-D5EC35D358BE@microsoft.com...
>>>I installed Vista x64 Enterprise RTM on my back-up computer first before
>>>updating my main computer to find any incompatibilities. Since this
>>>computer has multiple operating systems, I installed BitLocker following
>>>the installation guide at
>>>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>>>Formatting the hard drive, installing the operating system and BitLocker
>>>took about 30 minutes without any problems. The only drivers that didn't
>>>install were the Audigy 2zs and Leadtek WinFast TV2000XP Expert, which
>>>aren't available yet. The USR5610b modem drivers installed with the
>>>operating system and the Vista fax program works the same as XP. The
>>>Epson Stylus CX4800 printer/scanner installed using x64 drivers and
>>>functions fully. Nod32 (AV) installs and functions fully. Office 2007,
>>>Works 8 and the Works 8 update install without any of the conflicts that
>>>were present with the Office 2007 beta. Quicken 2006 installs properly
>>>but crashes when searching for the requested data file after
>>>installation. The cure for the crash is to install Quicken 2006 then
>>>close the program, use windows explorer to locate the requested file then
>>>double click it, Quicken 2006 will open with the requested file and no
>>>other problems occur. The driver issue is an obstacle but the official
>>>release date for the operating system is still over 30 days away, The
>>>Leadtek x64 drivers were supposed to be released in June, 2005 and I'm
>>>still using unofficial beta drivers with x64. I must have done something
>>>wrong with my installation because I haven't had any of the problems that
>>>the trolls were forecasting. May everybody in this newsgroup have a happy
>>>holiday season, this is a great holiday season for me health wise.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dennis Pack
>>> Vista x64 Enterprise
>>> Office 2007
>>
>

God speed your recovery, Dennis.

"Dennis Pack" <dennispack@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:89288BF1-E983-43BE-A6CB-58EEC13A40F7@microsoft.com...
> John:
> Thank you for the compliment and concern. I'm not back to work yet,
> but I wish that I was. The doctor indicates February, 2007 tentatively. My
> last chemotherapy session was a week ago and it will take about 2 more
> weeks until my system stabilizes, then my immune system will start to
> rebuild normally. The vocal cord surgery was successful, now I can talk
> with enough volume to be understood, which is a necessity because I work
> as a technical consultant on the telephone all day. Have a great holiday
> season.
>