Vista - Cannot copy file from network share on NTFS drive to local NTFS drive

I have an XP Pro machine with a folder shared to the network with full
control for everyone. Every other machine on the LAN, regardless of
Windows version or user account level, has no problem reading/writing on
this share. The share resides on an NTFS drive. There is no domain.

I have install Vista on three computers (two x86, one x64) and have had
the exact same problem on all three: the Vista machines can access the
above network share, open files on it, and write to it as expected.

The problem is with copying a file from that share to a local NTFS
volume. I can copy it to a local FAT32 volume no problem since that
strips the NTFS data from the file. I can then copy it from the FAT32
drive to the NTFS drive. Attempting to copy a file from the network
directly to the local NTFS disk results in an error message reading
"Destination Folder Access Denied: You need Permission to Perform this
Action, Try again/Cancel". I don't get a UAC elevation prompt.

However, if I create a file on the shared folder from the Vista
computer, I can copy it back to the Vista computer. Its like there's
something in the NTFS data of the files created on XP that Vista won't
copy onto its own NTFS volume.

Things I've tried with NO effect:

1) Disabled UAC

2) Logged on as an administrator

3) Logged on as a regular user

4) Enabled THE administrator and logging on as such

5) Changed where I'm copying the file to (ie. Desktop, Documents, etc)

6) Created new folder on C and verified that everyone and their brother
has full control of it before attempting to copy a file to it from the
network



The only variable I've found that has any effect on the issue is the
file system of either the network share or the local disk. If either one
is FAT32, file copying work. If both are NTFS, it fails.

I have the exact same problem but cant find any resolve by using FAT32
drives, I made a FAT32 drive on an XP PC and on Vista PC but to move
files/folders via but still couldn't get to copy on to a drive on Vista,
some files/folders will copy others won't, can't find any similarity. I
did notice however when pushing to Vista the error reports that the path is
'too deep'???????? Please also see other thread on this subject started
12/11/2006.
Also I could not find a link between ADS on NTFS drives and indeed
used a program to view any ADS data in files folders and still had problems
moving them when there was NO ADS there. Any help appreciated.
Simon



"MDaniel" wrote:

> I have an XP Pro machine with a folder shared to the network with full
> control for everyone. Every other machine on the LAN, regardless of
> Windows version or user account level, has no problem reading/writing on
> this share. The share resides on an NTFS drive. There is no domain.
>
> I have install Vista on three computers (two x86, one x64) and have had
> the exact same problem on all three: the Vista machines can access the
> above network share, open files on it, and write to it as expected.
>
> The problem is with copying a file from that share to a local NTFS
> volume. I can copy it to a local FAT32 volume no problem since that
> strips the NTFS data from the file. I can then copy it from the FAT32
> drive to the NTFS drive. Attempting to copy a file from the network
> directly to the local NTFS disk results in an error message reading
> "Destination Folder Access Denied: You need Permission to Perform this
> Action, Try again/Cancel". I don't get a UAC elevation prompt.
>
> However, if I create a file on the shared folder from the Vista
> computer, I can copy it back to the Vista computer. Its like there's
> something in the NTFS data of the files created on XP that Vista won't
> copy onto its own NTFS volume.
>
> Things I've tried with NO effect:
>
> 1) Disabled UAC
>
> 2) Logged on as an administrator
>
> 3) Logged on as a regular user
>
> 4) Enabled THE administrator and logging on as such
>
> 5) Changed where I'm copying the file to (ie. Desktop, Documents, etc)
>
> 6) Created new folder on C and verified that everyone and their brother
> has full control of it before attempting to copy a file to it from the
> network
>
>
>
> The only variable I've found that has any effect on the issue is the
> file system of either the network share or the local disk. If either one
> is FAT32, file copying work. If both are NTFS, it fails.
>

Hi I have solved this problem in the short term for myself at least.

I just completed a long diagnostics report directly into the reply window
(normally I will paste from a text file) and as I executed the post my
internet went down. Gutted.

So in the chance of lack of interest and reply I will keep this short. If
anyone is interested I will redo a long post.

Gigabit LAN or 10/100 LAN , onboard LAN or PC card LAN , or
drivers for certain network adapters. One of these is the answer.
This would have been more clear from the post which I lost but to put it
in a nutshell I have disabled My PC card Gigabit LAN and gone through the
onboard 10/100 LAN on one of the 3 PCs in the network and everything is great
as far as pulling to that PC is concerned.

NB I am pulling files FROM a PC which is still connected to the LAN with
onboard Gigabit LAN and from a non Gigabit LAN ethernet network drive which I
could not do before. There is no non responce time no calculating time etc.
The only change is to disable the PC card Gigabit LAN adapter on the PC used
to pull the files and connect/enable the 10/100 onboard adapter. Still
connected through a gigabit switch. I am now gonna see what the results on
the other pcs are.

Simon

Ok update

PC's Configuration as was


PC 1 Gigabit LAN onboard - enabled and connected
10/100 LAN PC card - disabled and diconnected

PC 2 Gigabit LAN PC card - enabled and connected
10/100 LAN onboard - disabled and diconnected

PC 3 Dual Gigabit LAN onboard - 1 enabled and connected
1 disabled and diconnected

Buffalo non gigabit Linkstation and drivestation network drives

PC 1 XP Home 32 bit and Vista RC2 5744 32 bit dual boot

PC 2 Vista RC2 5744 32 bit solo o/s

PC 3 XP Home 32 bit and Vista RC2 5744 64 bit dual boot

All PCs/drives Ethernet cable to Netgear Gigabit switch to BT Home Hub
Router/Modem

Was having huge problems moving files/folders anywhere where vista was
involved.

By changing PC 2 from PC card Gigabit LAN to onboard 10/100 LAN I can now
communicate and move both ways fully between PCs 1 and 2 and network drives.
I have not taken diagnostics to PC 3 yet but this PC is not so important and
is mainly XP to XP if at all network activity. For my needs, other than
wanting Gigabit LAN, this is now solved, only than to wonder if this is a
driver issue with the PC card Gigabit LAN. I have just noticed that I bought
the card as a Dynamode 10/100/100
Mbps 32 bit Gigabit Network adapterand it shows up as Realtek RTL8169/8110
Family PCI Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0) in devices manager. I could not
find a better driver than the one installed but have not looked since I
realised there was a difference in the name.

Simon

Update
Dynamode 1000 and realtek RTL8169/8110 are the same ie 8169 chip.
Both Dynamode and Realtek latest drivers (although only advertised as for up
to XP) are the latest drivers and are installed on my PC. I have found
information on the internet which says Vista has drivers for and is
compatible with RTL8169.

On PC 2
When the Gigabit LAN is set to auto negotiate speed - problems with network
When the 10/100 LAN is set to auto negotiate speed - the network is OK
When the Gigabit LAN is set to 100 base full duplex - problems with network
When the 10/100 LAN is set to 100 base full duplex - the network is OK
When the Gigabit LAN is set to 100 base half duplex - THE NETWORK IS OK
When the 10/100 LAN is set to 100 base half duplex the network is OK


Conclusion the Realtek gigabit LAN drivers are no good for 1000 base and
are only good in 100 base if half duplex.

PC 1 has Onboard Intel Proset Gigabit LAN which has widely advertised its
Vista compatibility.

PC 3 has onboard dual nvidia Gigabit LAN which I have not looked into yet

After replacing Vista Ultimate RC2 5744 with a clean install of Vista
Enterprise RTM 5600 the network/driver problem is no more I can use
Gigabit LAN in auto negotiate best speed (ie 1000 base full duplex) with no
proplems.

Simon