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Jetze Mellema (MS MVP) wrote:
> "Alias" <Alias@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:uaBlZbqKHHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> OK, Fanboi, why don't you do the research and prove me wrong? Can you
>> do it? Do you know how to use search engines?
>
> I'll teach you.
>
> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1...9247539,00.htm (17 jan
> 2006: 20%)
> http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-US/Tec...-1-2-3-68.html (nov
> 2006: 23%)

Um, I don't trust a study that only relies on only some web sites and
doesn't even say which web sites they used for the study. What site did
they use, microsoft.com?

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...503196,00.html

Another report that says, and I quote:

"An early test version of the new version of the browser, Firefox 3.0,
was unveiled this week to developers under the codename Gran Paradiso.
Its release follows a report showing that Firefox accounts for 20 per
cent of the browser market across Europe and as much as 40 per cent in
some countries."

> You'r welcome...

Course, if you remove the UK and only count the continent, the figure is
higher.

Also, IE7 hasn't been fully released in Europe. It was removed from auto
updates. So, when IE7 is fully deployed, FF's figures will go up
dramatically.

Alias

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
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> Red nosed reindeer wrote:
>> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/conte...ilability.html
>>
>> Kevin Bailey, an IT manager from Bowling Green, Ky., said, after
>> experiencing technical support problems following a Windows Vista
>> upgrade, "Microsoft isn't ready for the general release."
>>
>>
>> LOL its not only him.. its actually every IT person who knows enough
>> about computers
>> knows tha vista is a piece of junk.
>>
>> Vista will never be ready because its designed badly.... just like
>> windows Me,
>> there was not much you could do about it.. you just formatted and
>> installed win98SE.
>> Vista cannot be fixed even with Service packs.. why? Because the gui is
>> designed badly
>> and some concepts cannot be undone.
>>
>> XP will live long... and continue selling more than vista, as my
>> prediction has been
>> vista will create problems with Microsoft....and will cause MS to lose
>> tons of money.
>>
>>
>>
>
> IE7 is the best thing that has ever happened to Fire Fox.
>
> Hasta la Vista is the best thing that has ever happened to Linux.
>
> Alias

I tried ie7, dumped it because of all the bugs, installed opera instead, now
no problems.
I tried wmp11, what a bloated load of bug ridden crap, dumped it and
installed winamp, now no problems.
I tried vista rc2, didn't work, loads of eye candy and no substance, what a
complete waste of time, dumped it, will continue to use xp as it is without
doubt the better OS.
I can understand why Bill has quietly walked away.

Gary submitted this idea :
> ROTFL
> Can't prove it can you. Shows what a troll you really are.
> You spread nothing but FUD.

Try this for size:
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36252



>
>
>
> "Alias" <Alias@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:%23CBfLTqKHHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Typical response of a Troll that can not prove what they say.
>>> "In Europe, the use of Fire Fox is over 40%. "
>>
>> Research it yourself. Try Google News for starters.
>>
>>> Put up or shut up.
>>
>> How does it feel to want and not get?

--
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I just did a quick google. You seem to be talking out your arse.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...503196,00.html
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36252
08 December 2006
ACCORDING TO research carried out by French firm Xiti Monitor, use of the Firefox browser
continues to grow in Europe.
Since April this year, the geeky alternative to Microsoft's Internet Explorer gained an extra
four percent of the market across the continent.

According to Xiti's research, the browser is now used by some 23.2 per cent of European PC web
surfers - up from 19.4% in April.

http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-US/Tec...-1-2-3-68.html

http://www.xitimonitor.com/index-1-2-3-70.html


"Alias" <Alias@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
news:%23nZGYYqKHHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Gary wrote:
>> ROTFL
>> Can't prove it can you.
>
> No need. Pearls, swine and all that jazz.
>
>> Shows what a troll you really are.
>
> Troll? How so?
>
>> You spread nothing but FUD.
>
> No sir, in Europe, over 40% use Fire Fox. Live with it.
>
> Alias
>>
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <Alias@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
>> news:%23CBfLTqKHHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> Typical response of a Troll that can not prove what they say.
>>>> "In Europe, the use of Fire Fox is over 40%. "
>>>
>>> Research it yourself. Try Google News for starters.
>>>
>>>> Put up or shut up.
>>>
>>> How does it feel to want and not get?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
>>>> news:Os2TgFqKHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>> At least the guy from JesusLand cited a source, if even vaguely.
>>>>> A "non-Microsoft source" is quoting a source? Pulease!
>>>>>
>>>>>> You just throw 40% out there like the typical left wing emotional crap that
>>>>>> SuicideBombingLand (aka Europe) is known for...
>>>>> Unlike the USA, both Spain and the UK *caught* the terrorists. So far, the USA has caught
>>>>> no one involved in 9/11 and went after a country that had nothing to do with it and, in
>>>>> the process, has murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. How right wing can you get and
>>>>> still live with yourself?
>>>>>
>>>>>> and say "not good statistics". Dwarf calling the midget short.
>>>>> I don't really care if you believe me or not. I don't book mark web sites to prove
>>>>> anything to you or anyone else. If you are really interested, spend your time researching
>>>>> it instead of lamely insulting the messenger, me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ei5eHRpKHHA.3488@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Paul Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eXemtGpKHHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this is so true... I keep hearing people who once they downloaded IE7, and
>>>>>>>>> saw all the problems the quickly removed it and went to firefox 2 since they wanted
>>>>>>>>> the tabs but not the problems. Mind you that these were ie6 users..
>>>>>>>> A vocal minority.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MSIE 7: 30.7%
>>>>>>>> MSIE 6: 41%
>>>>>>>> Firefox 2: 7.7%
>>>>>>>> Firefox 1.x: 5.8%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those are numbers for this month from a non-Microsoft related forum which has clocked
>>>>>>>> up 1.5 million hits.
>>>>>>> LOL! Not good statistics. In Europe, the use of Fire Fox is over 40%. Course, in
>>>>>>> JesusLand (aka USA), where all the sheep live, it's to be expected that most users
>>>>>>> would think that IE is the only browser. We can only hope to educate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>

"Firefox accounts for 20 per
cent of the browser market across Europe and as much as 40 per cent in
some countries."

Dufus- "40 percent in *SOME* countries"


-Michael

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
news:%23KKQpoqKHHA.3488@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Jetze Mellema (MS MVP) wrote:
>> "Alias" <Alias@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
>> news:uaBlZbqKHHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> OK, Fanboi, why don't you do the research and prove me wrong? Can you do it? Do you know
>>> how to use search engines?
>>
>> I'll teach you.
>>
>> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1...9247539,00.htm (17 jan 2006: 20%)
>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-US/Tec...-1-2-3-68.html (nov 2006: 23%)
>
> Um, I don't trust a study that only relies on only some web sites and doesn't even say which
> web sites they used for the study. What site did they use, microsoft.com?
>
> http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...503196,00.html
>
> Another report that says, and I quote:
>
> "An early test version of the new version of the browser, Firefox 3.0, was unveiled this week
> to developers under the codename Gran Paradiso. Its release follows a report showing that
> Firefox accounts for 20 per cent of the browser market across Europe and as much as 40 per
> cent in some countries."
>
>> You'r welcome...
>
> Course, if you remove the UK and only count the continent, the figure is higher.
>
> Also, IE7 hasn't been fully released in Europe. It was removed from auto updates. So, when
> IE7 is fully deployed, FF's figures will go up dramatically.
>
> Alias

Eh, he showed the world he was a troll when spouted that ignorant and
incorrect info about the war.

Anyway, I'll provide some proof myself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_s...f_web_browsers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:L...sage_share.svg

These are world wide statistics. I can't find anything relating to Europe
only. I guess no one cares. In the graph you'll note the teeny tiny
little orange slice. That would be MANY browsers put together. Too bad
they didn't split them up so we could see just how small firefox is itself.

I rolled out IE7 to over 300 users. The ONLY problem I had was a handful of
people that, by default, didn't have tabs. After I got them turned on all
was well. Not a single issue was raised from the upgrade.

I like how he "needs" to use American fascism in a pathetic attempt to
discredit a large percentage of the IE numbers shown in that chart. Even
though in a world wide snapshot of internet usage, America is no where near
the leader in internet usage.

http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm

Europe is the second leader in internet usage so a large portion of those
browser numbers are coming from Europe (and Asia). So again he has egg all
over his face as his 40% firefox BS stat can't possibly be close to the
truth with these FACTUAL numbers. In other words, his tie between American
"sheep" being the cause of high IE stats is 100% dead in the water.

What's funny is I didn't even have to get into all the BS with Europe and
their Anti-MS campaign. Even with Europe being a MS hater they still
support IE more then any other browser. Enjoy your N version of Vista! We
all know you'll be using it when a bad-ass DX10 game comes out that you
absolutely must play.

Baaaahhhhhh

MICHAEL wrote:
> I just did a quick google. You seem to be talking out your arse.
>
> http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...503196,00.html
> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36252
> 08 December 2006
> ACCORDING TO research carried out by French firm Xiti Monitor, use of
> the Firefox browser continues to grow in Europe.
> Since April this year, the geeky alternative to Microsoft's Internet
> Explorer gained an extra four percent of the market across the continent.
>
> According to Xiti's research, the browser is now used by some 23.2 per
> cent of European PC web surfers - up from 19.4% in April.
>
> http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-US/Tec...-1-2-3-68.html
>
> http://www.xitimonitor.com/index-1-2-3-70.html

So, you add the people who don't go to the sites tested and what do you
get? Maybe I exaggerated a tad (It's fun to watch the MS fanbois have
sissy fits) but it'll be over 40% before the end of 07 and, according to
the study you cite, some countries in Europe already are. IE 7 will make
sure of that, as will Fire Fox 3.0.

Alias
>
>
> "Alias" <Alias@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:%23nZGYYqKHHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Gary wrote:
>>> ROTFL
>>> Can't prove it can you.
>>
>> No need. Pearls, swine and all that jazz.
>>
>>> Shows what a troll you really are.
>>
>> Troll? How so?
>>
>>> You spread nothing but FUD.
>>
>> No sir, in Europe, over 40% use Fire Fox. Live with it.
>>
>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <Alias@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
>>> news:%23CBfLTqKHHA.2456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> Typical response of a Troll that can not prove what they say.
>>>>> "In Europe, the use of Fire Fox is over 40%. "
>>>>
>>>> Research it yourself. Try Google News for starters.
>>>>
>>>>> Put up or shut up.
>>>>
>>>> How does it feel to want and not get?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Os2TgFqKHHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> James wrote:
>>>>>>> At least the guy from JesusLand cited a source, if even vaguely.
>>>>>> A "non-Microsoft source" is quoting a source? Pulease!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You just throw 40% out there like the typical left wing emotional
>>>>>>> crap that SuicideBombingLand (aka Europe) is known for...
>>>>>> Unlike the USA, both Spain and the UK *caught* the terrorists. So
>>>>>> far, the USA has caught no one involved in 9/11 and went after a
>>>>>> country that had nothing to do with it and, in the process, has
>>>>>> murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. How right wing can you
>>>>>> get and still live with yourself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and say "not good statistics". Dwarf calling the midget short.
>>>>>> I don't really care if you believe me or not. I don't book mark
>>>>>> web sites to prove anything to you or anyone else. If you are
>>>>>> really interested, spend your time researching it instead of
>>>>>> lamely insulting the messenger, me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ei5eHRpKHHA.3488@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Paul Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eXemtGpKHHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this is so true... I keep hearing people who once they
>>>>>>>>>> downloaded IE7, and
>>>>>>>>>> saw all the problems the quickly removed it and went to
>>>>>>>>>> firefox 2 since they wanted the tabs but not the problems.
>>>>>>>>>> Mind you that these were ie6 users..
>>>>>>>>> A vocal minority.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MSIE 7: 30.7%
>>>>>>>>> MSIE 6: 41%
>>>>>>>>> Firefox 2: 7.7%
>>>>>>>>> Firefox 1.x: 5.8%
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those are numbers for this month from a non-Microsoft related
>>>>>>>>> forum which has clocked up 1.5 million hits.
>>>>>>>> LOL! Not good statistics. In Europe, the use of Fire Fox is over
>>>>>>>> 40%. Course, in JesusLand (aka USA), where all the sheep live,
>>>>>>>> it's to be expected that most users would think that IE is the
>>>>>>>> only browser. We can only hope to educate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>
>

MICHAEL wrote:
> "Firefox accounts for 20 per
> cent of the browser market across Europe and as much as 40 per cent in
> some countries."
>
> Dufus-

Was that necessary?

> "40 percent in *SOME* countries"
>
>
> -Michael

So, you add the people who don't go to the sites tested and what do you
get? Maybe I exaggerated a tad (It's fun to watch the MS fanbois have
sissy fits) but it'll be over 40% throughout Europe before the end of 07
and, according to the study you cite, some countries in Europe already
are. IE 7 will make sure of that, as will Fire Fox 3.0.

Alias
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:%23KKQpoqKHHA.3488@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Jetze Mellema (MS MVP) wrote:
>>> "Alias" <Alias@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
>>> news:uaBlZbqKHHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> OK, Fanboi, why don't you do the research and prove me wrong? Can
>>>> you do it? Do you know how to use search engines?
>>>
>>> I'll teach you.
>>>
>>> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1...9247539,00.htm (17 jan
>>> 2006: 20%)
>>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-US/Tec...-1-2-3-68.html (nov
>>> 2006: 23%)
>>
>> Um, I don't trust a study that only relies on only some web sites and
>> doesn't even say which web sites they used for the study. What site
>> did they use, microsoft.com?
>>
>> http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...503196,00.html
>>
>> Another report that says, and I quote:
>>
>> "An early test version of the new version of the browser, Firefox 3.0,
>> was unveiled this week to developers under the codename Gran Paradiso.
>> Its release follows a report showing that Firefox accounts for 20 per
>> cent of the browser market across Europe and as much as 40 per cent in
>> some countries."
>>
>>> You'r welcome...
>>
>> Course, if you remove the UK and only count the continent, the figure
>> is higher.
>>
>> Also, IE7 hasn't been fully released in Europe. It was removed from
>> auto updates. So, when IE7 is fully deployed, FF's figures will go up
>> dramatically.
>>
>> Alias
>

I already proved you to be completly full of crap above.

"hundreds of thousands of Iraqis"
I didn't even read through to that part!!! Is this what you think? How sad
it is to live in your world.

Actually, I see only one country at 40.5%- Slovenia.
Finland at 39.3%.

http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-US/Tec...-1-2-3-68.html
A study undertaken between Monday 20th and Sunday 26th November on a perimeter of 86,402 web
sites audited by XiTi. The results were compared with results for the week of August 28th to
September 3rd 2006.

About XiTi:

Founded on 2 January 1996, AT Internet is one of France's Internet pioneers and is recognized
by numerous awards. With the strength of its experience as a web agency and its in-depth
expertise in remote marker technology, AT Internet launched XiTi in June 2000.
XiTi brings to its subscribers crucial and certified information on their websites audience and
on the profitability of their Internet investments. Moreover, with XiTiMonitor, XiTi offers
audits, benchmarks and publishes reference surveys.

Today, XiTi counts more than 253,000 subscribing sites (december 06), including some of the
biggest names in the French-speaking world.



-Michael

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message news:uftfD3qKHHA.1044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Firefox accounts for 20 per
> cent of the browser market across Europe and as much as 40 per cent in
> some countries."
>
> Dufus- "40 percent in *SOME* countries"
>
>
> -Michael
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
> news:%23KKQpoqKHHA.3488@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Jetze Mellema (MS MVP) wrote:
>>> "Alias" <Alias@masked&anonymous.es> wrote in message
>>> news:uaBlZbqKHHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> OK, Fanboi, why don't you do the research and prove me wrong? Can you do it? Do you know
>>>> how to use search engines?
>>>
>>> I'll teach you.
>>>
>>> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1...9247539,00.htm (17 jan 2006: 20%)
>>> http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-US/Tec...-1-2-3-68.html (nov 2006: 23%)
>>
>> Um, I don't trust a study that only relies on only some web sites and doesn't even say which
>> web sites they used for the study. What site did they use, microsoft.com?
>>
>> http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...503196,00.html
>>
>> Another report that says, and I quote:
>>
>> "An early test version of the new version of the browser, Firefox 3.0, was unveiled this
>> week to developers under the codename Gran Paradiso. Its release follows a report showing
>> that Firefox accounts for 20 per cent of the browser market across Europe and as much as 40
>> per cent in some countries."
>>
>>> You'r welcome...
>>
>> Course, if you remove the UK and only count the continent, the figure is higher.
>>
>> Also, IE7 hasn't been fully released in Europe. It was removed from auto updates. So, when
>> IE7 is fully deployed, FF's figures will go up dramatically.
>>
>> Alias
>