Vista - drag and drop in command window

anyone notice that you can no longer drag and drop a file or folder on top of
a command window to have the path automatically entered?

That was the reason I have removed Vista from my computer!
Jack

"auser" <auser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> anyone notice that you can no longer drag and drop a file or folder on top
> of
> a command window to have the path automatically entered?

This was noted in the Beta stage. The response in this ng was it was
removed for "security reasons".
You can still obtain the path by Right-clicking on a folder (while holding
down the Shift key) & selecing it in the menu.

"auser" <auser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> anyone notice that you can no longer drag and drop a file or folder on top
> of
> a command window to have the path automatically entered?

It's the same reason drag and drop is not supported in Virtual Server;
security.

"Mr. Vista" <Mr. Vista@lhere.com> wrote in message
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> This was noted in the Beta stage. The response in this ng was it was
> removed for "security reasons".
> You can still obtain the path by Right-clicking on a folder (while holding
> down the Shift key) & selecing it in the menu.
>
> "auser" <auser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news6C82F85-B3C4-4EC8-BDFC-1883B44DA9FA@microsoft.com...
>> anyone notice that you can no longer drag and drop a file or folder on
>> top of
>> a command window to have the path automatically entered?
>
>

What reason?
"Security" explanation is not enough for me.
How can I know it is not a bug?
Microsoft should explain if it really cares about customers.
Jack
"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
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> It's the same reason drag and drop is not supported in Virtual Server;
> security.
>
> "Mr. Vista" <Mr. Vista@lhere.com> wrote in message
> news:%23wVYfAhLHHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> This was noted in the Beta stage. The response in this ng was it was
>> removed for "security reasons".
>> You can still obtain the path by Right-clicking on a folder (while
>> holding down the Shift key) & selecing it in the menu.
>>
>> "auser" <auser@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news6C82F85-B3C4-4EC8-BDFC-1883B44DA9FA@microsoft.com...
>>> anyone notice that you can no longer drag and drop a file or folder on
>>> top of
>>> a command window to have the path automatically entered?
>>
>>
>

It is not a bug. Security is a large issue in Vista. I don't know at what
point in a drag and drop that you could insert a UAC prompt in a command
window operation but it is apparently not a simple matter.

"Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
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> What reason?
> "Security" explanation is not enough for me.
> How can I know it is not a bug?
> Microsoft should explain if it really cares about customers.
> Jack

How does dropping a file path in a Command window pertain to security?.


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
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> It is not a bug. Security is a large issue in Vista. I don't know at
> what point in a drag and drop that you could insert a UAC prompt in a
> command window operation but it is apparently not a simple matter.
>
> "Jack" <replyto@it> wrote in message
> news:eSw3CaiLHHA.4460@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> What reason?
>> "Security" explanation is not enough for me.
>> How can I know it is not a bug?
>> Microsoft should explain if it really cares about customers.
>> Jack
>

It is an attack surface issue. Apparently drag and drop can be used to hack
a system. Remember that Vista is used in networked environments. In order
for MS to market the client to security-minded enterprises and government
agencies it must first meet their stringent security standards.

"Mr. Vista" <Mr. Vista@lhere.com> wrote in message
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> How does dropping a file path in a Command window pertain to security?.
>
>

This reminds me of something that came up but I didn't follow up on. In one
chat I remarked in Vista that an improvement over XP was that when you go to
right click and rename a folder, the focus is often lost so that you have to
repeat the process or many times, even when no window is open "under" the
folder you're trying to click or bordering on the space underneath it, I
have to tuck the folder or file into another folder to get it named. In
Vista, you can move windows around, or the mouse around and the focus of the
open space to rename is stable. When I made that remark, someone on a Vista
team (whichever chat) said that mouse focus can raise a significant security
issue. That point seems analagous or in the same "ball park as the one you
just made. I just didn't follow up on it fully and if I did, I wonder if it
would require coding knowledge. Probably not though.

CH


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
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> It is an attack surface issue. Apparently drag and drop can be used to
> hack a system. Remember that Vista is used in networked environments. In
> order for MS to market the client to security-minded enterprises and
> government agencies it must first meet their stringent security standards.
>
> "Mr. Vista" <Mr. Vista@lhere.com> wrote in message
> news:uY%23fohjLHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> How does dropping a file path in a Command window pertain to security?.
>>
>>
>

Interesting. Thanks for sharing that!

"Chad Harris" <fixvista-itneedsit.net> wrote in message
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> This reminds me of something that came up but I didn't follow up on. In
> one chat I remarked in Vista that an improvement over XP was that when you
> go to right click and rename a folder, the focus is often lost so that you
> have to repeat the process or many times, even when no window is open
> "under" the folder you're trying to click or bordering on the space
> underneath it, I have to tuck the folder or file into another folder to
> get it named. In Vista, you can move windows around, or the mouse around
> and the focus of the open space to rename is stable. When I made that
> remark, someone on a Vista team (whichever chat) said that mouse focus can
> raise a significant security issue. That point seems analagous or in the
> same "ball park as the one you just made. I just didn't follow up on it
> fully and if I did, I wonder if it would require coding knowledge.
> Probably not though.
>
> CH
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%23tyKJzoLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> It is an attack surface issue. Apparently drag and drop can be used to
>> hack a system. Remember that Vista is used in networked environments.
>> In order for MS to market the client to security-minded enterprises and
>> government agencies it must first meet their stringent security
>> standards.
>>
>> "Mr. Vista" <Mr. Vista@lhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:uY%23fohjLHHA.3560@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> How does dropping a file path in a Command window pertain to security?.
>>>
>>>
>>
>