I've got a problem with my Favorites. I have moved the folder to a
sub-folder of Documents. I can open them OK, but I get an error if I
try to save one. I've noticed that the folder is Read Only, but if I
clear the RO attribute it gets set again immediately.



Any thoughts?
--
Nigel M

Hi Nigel,

First, why would you move it?
Second, where did you move it to within Documents?

All folders have that "read only" marked, but it's not an attribute that
applies to folders, only to files. That isn't the problem. The inability to
save to it indicates a lack of write permissions. This may be inherited from
whatever folder you dropped it into.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup-emailinvalid.com> wrote in message
news:9vekp2pqhmunij9nc7dqt71ucvgqhap0hj@4ax.com...
> I've got a problem with my Favorites. I have moved the folder to a
> sub-folder of Documents. I can open them OK, but I get an error if I
> try to save one. I've noticed that the folder is Read Only, but if I
> clear the RO attribute it gets set again immediately.
>
> Any thoughts?
> --
> Nigel M

Nice name Rick :-), I have a comment and question. In previous OS's it was
advised to move user data off the partition that the OS resided on, for
safety reasons, such as ease of backup and having to reinstall the OS.
This is a bit more difficult in Vista because the User Folder can't be
moved. However, the Document folder can be, so I made a suggestion to
someone that wanted to do this, to put the other folders inside of Documents
and then move Documents to wherever they wanted.

My question to those of infinite knowledge is this, is keeping data away
from the OS a valid concern now that Vista doesn't do a (format drive and
install) type of install. So any user data should be as secure as having it
on another partition??

I can see the case for having one folder for backups though, I like to know
that everything I want backed up resides in one place, and I don't have to
go searching all over the hard drive for data folders.

Ray, also Rogers


"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eOZfh8lLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Nigel,
>
> First, why would you move it?
> Second, where did you move it to within Documents?
>
> All folders have that "read only" marked, but it's not an attribute that
> applies to folders, only to files. That isn't the problem. The inability
> to save to it indicates a lack of write permissions. This may be inherited
> from whatever folder you dropped it into.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup-emailinvalid.com> wrote in message
> news:9vekp2pqhmunij9nc7dqt71ucvgqhap0hj@4ax.com...
>> I've got a problem with my Favorites. I have moved the folder to a
>> sub-folder of Documents. I can open them OK, but I get an error if I
>> try to save one. I've noticed that the folder is Read Only, but if I
>> clear the RO attribute it gets set again immediately.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>> --
>> Nigel M
>

Nigel--

I would ask the first question in the most respectful sense. Why use
Favorites when it is much much faster and particularly with the Explorer
orgnization available in XP or Vista, to just sort folders in any way that
suits you, but name is particularly useful and in Vista then you click to
the right of the category, say name, and click "Group" and you'll get the
categories of files or folders alphebatized and grouped by letters like the
index of a book.

If I were going to use Favorites, and I know that a lot of users do, then
I'd search out Faves to Go on Kelly's site here under tweaks (I'm doing it
for you this time) http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp.htm (the vast
majority of them work in Vista)

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm and go to
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/favetogo.zip and simply unzip
this and you'll have your faves come up as hyperlinks on an IE page and the
access is much much quicker. PC Mag charges about $25 for this but here it
is.

Another excellent app for fast access to faves hyperlinked and all listed
that load immediately is called Favorites Home Page but it might take
searching a web archive to still find it. Faves to Go is pretty equivalent.

Good luck,

CH

However, to take the next step from Rick's comment, I think you'll have the
access you need if you simply right click the folder>properties>security tab
and highlight a user profile and click add>type in the next box the last
term in the file path of that particular profile> put checks in the boxes
for permissions you want>ok>close and reopen.

CH


"Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup-emailinvalid.com> wrote in message
news:9vekp2pqhmunij9nc7dqt71ucvgqhap0hj@4ax.com...
> I've got a problem with my Favorites. I have moved the folder to a
> sub-folder of Documents. I can open them OK, but I get an error if I
> try to save one. I've noticed that the folder is Read Only, but if I
> clear the RO attribute it gets set again immediately.
>
> Any thoughts?
> --
> Nigel M

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:14:06 -0500, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org>
wrote:

>First, why would you move it?
All my "My ..." folders are on a separate "M:" drive.

>Second, where did you move it to within Documents?
As a direct sub-folder.

>All folders have that "read only" marked, but it's not an attribute that
>applies to folders, only to files.

Has this changed then?

>The inability to save to it indicates a lack of write permissions.
>This may be inherited from whatever folder you dropped it into.

I really now no idea what is happening, but it's working now!

--
Nigel M

I, too, have this problem. I moved my Favorites folder (among others) to
D:\Data\Dave\Favorites and I started getting "Unable to create '<favorite
name>: Unspecified error" whenever I try to add a Favorite. Thinking it
had something to do with XP sharing the folder, I set up separate versions
for XP and Vista. Now, under Vista, my Favorites is under
"D:\Data\Dave\Vista Stuff\Favorites. I get the same error message. If I
save the web page as a shortcut to the Desktop, I can then move that
shortcut into the Favorites folder without trouble.

Right-clicking on the Favorites folder, selecting Properties | Security |
Advanced | Owner shows me ("Dave (Dave-PC\Dave") as being the current owner
(probably because I set up those folders under Vista). Interestingly, every
other folder, from the drive, itself, on down has some big honkin' SID (I
assume it's a SID -- it's something like "S-1-5...") as the current owner
(probably because I created all of that under XP long ago). I have no
trouble working with those folders. Should I try changing Current Owners
one way or the other? Or, is that looking for more trouble?


"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eOZfh8lLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Nigel,
>
> First, why would you move it?
> Second, where did you move it to within Documents?
>
> All folders have that "read only" marked, but it's not an attribute that
> applies to folders, only to files. That isn't the problem. The inability
> to save to it indicates a lack of write permissions. This may be inherited
> from whatever folder you dropped it into.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup-emailinvalid.com> wrote in message
> news:9vekp2pqhmunij9nc7dqt71ucvgqhap0hj@4ax.com...
>> I've got a problem with my Favorites. I have moved the folder to a
>> sub-folder of Documents. I can open them OK, but I get an error if I
>> try to save one. I've noticed that the folder is Read Only, but if I
>> clear the RO attribute it gets set again immediately.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>> --
>> Nigel M
>

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:44:35 +0000, Nigel Molesworth
<reply@thegroup-emailinvalid.com> wrote:

>I really now no idea what is happening, but it's working now!

Sussed it, it's the bl**dy UAC, now off for ever!

--
Nigel M

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 11:39:26 -0500, "Chad Harris"
<fixvista-itneedsit.net> wrote:

>I would ask the first question in the most respectful sense. Why use
>Favorites when it is much much faster and particularly with the Explorer

I'm talking about IE.

--
Nigel M

Oh, no! Something else that can't be done without leaving UAC turned off?

Nigel Molesworth wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:44:35 +0000, Nigel Molesworth
> <reply@thegroup-emailinvalid.com> wrote:
>
>> I really now no idea what is happening, but it's working now!
>
> Sussed it, it's the bl**dy UAC, now off for ever!
>

Hi Ray,

There is still a need to do backups as prevention against disaster (like a
failed drive or corrupt partition), I doubt that will ever change. With the
advent of true repair installations and their ability to recover an existing
installation, I don't see a huge need to move data from the user folders in
a standard system. There are exceptions to this, like multiboot systems, but
otherwise the data is as safe within the user folder as it is on another
drive.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Ray " <someone@mydomain.com> wrote in message
news:OOQEbEoLHHA.3424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Nice name Rick :-), I have a comment and question. In previous OS's it was
> advised to move user data off the partition that the OS resided on, for
> safety reasons, such as ease of backup and having to reinstall the OS.
> This is a bit more difficult in Vista because the User Folder can't be
> moved. However, the Document folder can be, so I made a suggestion to
> someone that wanted to do this, to put the other folders inside of
> Documents and then move Documents to wherever they wanted.
>
> My question to those of infinite knowledge is this, is keeping data away
> from the OS a valid concern now that Vista doesn't do a (format drive and
> install) type of install. So any user data should be as secure as having
> it on another partition??
>
> I can see the case for having one folder for backups though, I like to
> know that everything I want backed up resides in one place, and I don't
> have to go searching all over the hard drive for data folders.
>
> Ray, also Rogers
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eOZfh8lLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Nigel,
>>
>> First, why would you move it?
>> Second, where did you move it to within Documents?
>>
>> All folders have that "read only" marked, but it's not an attribute that
>> applies to folders, only to files. That isn't the problem. The inability
>> to save to it indicates a lack of write permissions. This may be
>> inherited from whatever folder you dropped it into.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup-emailinvalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:9vekp2pqhmunij9nc7dqt71ucvgqhap0hj@4ax.com...
>>> I've got a problem with my Favorites. I have moved the folder to a
>>> sub-folder of Documents. I can open them OK, but I get an error if I
>>> try to save one. I've noticed that the folder is Read Only, but if I
>>> clear the RO attribute it gets set again immediately.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> --
>>> Nigel M
>>
>