Vista - Microsoft Claims Vista's Aero Interface Doesn't Slow PCs

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news that is relative to this newsgroup.


http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36751

Running Windows Vista's new Aero graphical interface doesn't impact PC
performance, a study sponsored by Microsoft claims.

According to speed measurements of more than 60 common business chores,
which were conducted by North Carolina-based Principled Technologies for
Microsoft, using the Aero interface "had little or no negative effect on
Windows Vista's performance."

Matt Ayers, a program manager with the Windows Client Performance team,
touted the results on the group's blog. "We put quite a bit of effort into
making sure that the new visuals were as efficient as possible, and it
really paid off," he wrote. "You can run Aero without guilt!"

Principled Technologies measured performance with Aero on and off using a
Dell XPS M170 notebook equipped with 1 Gbyte of RAM, a 2.0-GHz Intel Pentium
M 750 single-core processor, and a graphics card with 256 Mbytes of memory.
The laptop's configuration met or exceeded Microsoft's own minimum system
requirements for what it calls a "Vista Premium Ready PC," which is a system
with sufficient horsepower to run Aero. Those requirements, for example,
specify a graphics card with at least 128 Mbytes of memory.

Aero, which can be disabled by the user, is automatically ditched for a
simpler, Windows XP-style interface, when Vista is run on lower-powered PCs.

The Vista performance report can be downloaded as a PDF file from here

dude... please listen for a minute.

no body really wants to keep seeing all of the negative things you post.
yes, i know, youre just trying to help and just trying to put information
out there... but its all negative, and its quite annoying. everyone will
find out the good and the bad on their own. we dont need you spending your
entire day searching the internet and posting links to bad reviews, flaws,
etc. did you do this when xp shipped? or 98 for that matter? stop being so
afraid of change anf if youre really this bored and have this much time on
your hands, id like to hear some of the good things youve found in vista.
and if you think you have a genuine concern, and not just another ms bashing
conspiracy theory, send it to ms... we're all really tired of hearing from
you.

dont bother responding to this and trying to be clever or witty... because
youre not. just take it with a grain of salt, get a life, and have a happy
new year


"Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
news:eu5BiUpLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Disclaimer: I do not endorse the following information. I am just posting
> news that is relative to this newsgroup.
>
>
> http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36751
>
> Running Windows Vista's new Aero graphical interface doesn't impact PC
> performance, a study sponsored by Microsoft claims.
>
> According to speed measurements of more than 60 common business chores,
> which were conducted by North Carolina-based Principled Technologies for
> Microsoft, using the Aero interface "had little or no negative effect on
> Windows Vista's performance."
>
> Matt Ayers, a program manager with the Windows Client Performance team,
> touted the results on the group's blog. "We put quite a bit of effort into
> making sure that the new visuals were as efficient as possible, and it
> really paid off," he wrote. "You can run Aero without guilt!"
>
> Principled Technologies measured performance with Aero on and off using a
> Dell XPS M170 notebook equipped with 1 Gbyte of RAM, a 2.0-GHz Intel
> Pentium M 750 single-core processor, and a graphics card with 256 Mbytes
> of memory. The laptop's configuration met or exceeded Microsoft's own
> minimum system requirements for what it calls a "Vista Premium Ready PC,"
> which is a system with sufficient horsepower to run Aero. Those
> requirements, for example, specify a graphics card with at least 128
> Mbytes of memory.
>
> Aero, which can be disabled by the user, is automatically ditched for a
> simpler, Windows XP-style interface, when Vista is run on lower-powered
> PCs.
>
> The Vista performance report can be downloaded as a PDF file from here
>
>

Who cares if Aero affects performance or not. Transparent borders are still
just eye candy and, in fact, blur the distinction between what you want to
see and what you want not to see. In the end, they are a frustration and,
as with many UI problems in computers, users don't even realize the source
of their frustration.

Dale

"Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
news:eu5BiUpLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Disclaimer: I do not endorse the following information. I am just posting
> news that is relative to this newsgroup.
>
>
> http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36751
>
> Running Windows Vista's new Aero graphical interface doesn't impact PC
> performance, a study sponsored by Microsoft claims.
>
> According to speed measurements of more than 60 common business chores,
> which were conducted by North Carolina-based Principled Technologies for
> Microsoft, using the Aero interface "had little or no negative effect on
> Windows Vista's performance."
>
> Matt Ayers, a program manager with the Windows Client Performance team,
> touted the results on the group's blog. "We put quite a bit of effort into
> making sure that the new visuals were as efficient as possible, and it
> really paid off," he wrote. "You can run Aero without guilt!"
>
> Principled Technologies measured performance with Aero on and off using a
> Dell XPS M170 notebook equipped with 1 Gbyte of RAM, a 2.0-GHz Intel
> Pentium M 750 single-core processor, and a graphics card with 256 Mbytes
> of memory. The laptop's configuration met or exceeded Microsoft's own
> minimum system requirements for what it calls a "Vista Premium Ready PC,"
> which is a system with sufficient horsepower to run Aero. Those
> requirements, for example, specify a graphics card with at least 128
> Mbytes of memory.
>
> Aero, which can be disabled by the user, is automatically ditched for a
> simpler, Windows XP-style interface, when Vista is run on lower-powered
> PCs.
>
> The Vista performance report can be downloaded as a PDF file from here
>
>

You are wrong. The post is not negative. It is saying that vista
works fine with glass on, and that there is no negative impact on speed.
Please read the post.


"Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message
news:OD7I8rpLHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> dude... please listen for a minute.
>
> no body really wants to keep seeing all of the negative things you post.
> yes, i know, youre just trying to help and just trying to put information
> out there... but its all negative, and its quite annoying. everyone will
> find out the good and the bad on their own. we dont need you spending your
> entire day searching the internet and posting links to bad reviews, flaws,
> etc. did you do this when xp shipped? or 98 for that matter? stop being so
> afraid of change anf if youre really this bored and have this much time on
> your hands, id like to hear some of the good things youve found in vista.
> and if you think you have a genuine concern, and not just another ms
> bashing conspiracy theory, send it to ms... we're all really tired of
> hearing from you.
>
> dont bother responding to this and trying to be clever or witty... because
> youre not. just take it with a grain of salt, get a life, and have a happy
> new year
>
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eu5BiUpLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Disclaimer: I do not endorse the following information. I am just posting
>> news that is relative to this newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36751
>>
>> Running Windows Vista's new Aero graphical interface doesn't impact PC
>> performance, a study sponsored by Microsoft claims.
>>
>> According to speed measurements of more than 60 common business chores,
>> which were conducted by North Carolina-based Principled Technologies for
>> Microsoft, using the Aero interface "had little or no negative effect on
>> Windows Vista's performance."
>>
>> Matt Ayers, a program manager with the Windows Client Performance team,
>> touted the results on the group's blog. "We put quite a bit of effort
>> into making sure that the new visuals were as efficient as possible, and
>> it really paid off," he wrote. "You can run Aero without guilt!"
>>
>> Principled Technologies measured performance with Aero on and off using a
>> Dell XPS M170 notebook equipped with 1 Gbyte of RAM, a 2.0-GHz Intel
>> Pentium M 750 single-core processor, and a graphics card with 256 Mbytes
>> of memory. The laptop's configuration met or exceeded Microsoft's own
>> minimum system requirements for what it calls a "Vista Premium Ready PC,"
>> which is a system with sufficient horsepower to run Aero. Those
>> requirements, for example, specify a graphics card with at least 128
>> Mbytes of memory.
>>
>> Aero, which can be disabled by the user, is automatically ditched for a
>> simpler, Windows XP-style interface, when Vista is run on lower-powered
>> PCs.
>>
>> The Vista performance report can be downloaded as a PDF file from here
>>
>>
>

Very well said.


"Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message
news:OD7I8rpLHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> dude... please listen for a minute.
>
> no body really wants to keep seeing all of the negative things you post.
> yes, i know, youre just trying to help and just trying to put information
> out there... but its all negative, and its quite annoying. everyone will
> find out the good and the bad on their own. we dont need you spending your
> entire day searching the internet and posting links to bad reviews, flaws,
> etc. did you do this when xp shipped? or 98 for that matter? stop being so
> afraid of change anf if youre really this bored and have this much time on
> your hands, id like to hear some of the good things youve found in vista.
> and if you think you have a genuine concern, and not just another ms
> bashing conspiracy theory, send it to ms... we're all really tired of
> hearing from you.
>
> dont bother responding to this and trying to be clever or witty... because
> youre not. just take it with a grain of salt, get a life, and have a happy
> new year
>
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eu5BiUpLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Disclaimer: I do not endorse the following information. I am just posting
>> news that is relative to this newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36751
>>
>> Running Windows Vista's new Aero graphical interface doesn't impact PC
>> performance, a study sponsored by Microsoft claims.
>>
>> According to speed measurements of more than 60 common business chores,
>> which were conducted by North Carolina-based Principled Technologies for
>> Microsoft, using the Aero interface "had little or no negative effect on
>> Windows Vista's performance."
>>
>> Matt Ayers, a program manager with the Windows Client Performance team,
>> touted the results on the group's blog. "We put quite a bit of effort
>> into making sure that the new visuals were as efficient as possible, and
>> it really paid off," he wrote. "You can run Aero without guilt!"
>>
>> Principled Technologies measured performance with Aero on and off using a
>> Dell XPS M170 notebook equipped with 1 Gbyte of RAM, a 2.0-GHz Intel
>> Pentium M 750 single-core processor, and a graphics card with 256 Mbytes
>> of memory. The laptop's configuration met or exceeded Microsoft's own
>> minimum system requirements for what it calls a "Vista Premium Ready PC,"
>> which is a system with sufficient horsepower to run Aero. Those
>> requirements, for example, specify a graphics card with at least 128
>> Mbytes of memory.
>>
>> Aero, which can be disabled by the user, is automatically ditched for a
>> simpler, Windows XP-style interface, when Vista is run on lower-powered
>> PCs.
>>
>> The Vista performance report can be downloaded as a PDF file from here
>>
>>
>

Thank you for your kind words.

the post was not negative...

In vista Aero is handled by the GPU the processor on the video card,
thats why it has no negative impact on the overall performance of the OS.
The post if you took the time to read it, has some measurments that show
this.


This is a very nice feature actually.

Happy 2007




"Bob" <Bob@somewhere.usa> wrote in message
news:F060C4D7-E542-4A3F-A617-168C6E303A87@microsoft.com...
> Very well said.
>
>
> "Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message
> news:OD7I8rpLHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> dude... please listen for a minute.
>>
>> no body really wants to keep seeing all of the negative things you post.
>> yes, i know, youre just trying to help and just trying to put information
>> out there... but its all negative, and its quite annoying. everyone will
>> find out the good and the bad on their own. we dont need you spending
>> your entire day searching the internet and posting links to bad reviews,
>> flaws, etc. did you do this when xp shipped? or 98 for that matter? stop
>> being so afraid of change anf if youre really this bored and have this
>> much time on your hands, id like to hear some of the good things youve
>> found in vista. and if you think you have a genuine concern, and not just
>> another ms bashing conspiracy theory, send it to ms... we're all really
>> tired of hearing from you.
>>
>> dont bother responding to this and trying to be clever or witty...
>> because youre not. just take it with a grain of salt, get a life, and
>> have a happy new year
>>
>>
>> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
>> news:eu5BiUpLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Disclaimer: I do not endorse the following information. I am just
>>> posting news that is relative to this newsgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36751
>>>
>>> Running Windows Vista's new Aero graphical interface doesn't impact PC
>>> performance, a study sponsored by Microsoft claims.
>>>
>>> According to speed measurements of more than 60 common business chores,
>>> which were conducted by North Carolina-based Principled Technologies for
>>> Microsoft, using the Aero interface "had little or no negative effect on
>>> Windows Vista's performance."
>>>
>>> Matt Ayers, a program manager with the Windows Client Performance team,
>>> touted the results on the group's blog. "We put quite a bit of effort
>>> into making sure that the new visuals were as efficient as possible, and
>>> it really paid off," he wrote. "You can run Aero without guilt!"
>>>
>>> Principled Technologies measured performance with Aero on and off using
>>> a Dell XPS M170 notebook equipped with 1 Gbyte of RAM, a 2.0-GHz Intel
>>> Pentium M 750 single-core processor, and a graphics card with 256 Mbytes
>>> of memory. The laptop's configuration met or exceeded Microsoft's own
>>> minimum system requirements for what it calls a "Vista Premium Ready
>>> PC," which is a system with sufficient horsepower to run Aero. Those
>>> requirements, for example, specify a graphics card with at least 128
>>> Mbytes of memory.
>>>
>>> Aero, which can be disabled by the user, is automatically ditched for a
>>> simpler, Windows XP-style interface, when Vista is run on lower-powered
>>> PCs.
>>>
>>> The Vista performance report can be downloaded as a PDF file from here
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Troy McClure wrote:
> dude... please listen for a minute.
>
> no body really wants to keep seeing all of the negative things you post.

You might want to read what you are replying to before making a post such as
this. There is nothing negative in the post you replied to. Only
information that with Aero enabled on hardware of good caliber that all the
visual effects of the glass interface do not hurt you in the performance
category. Basically meaning it is working the way MS designed it to work.
What is negative about that?
--
Tom Porterfield

Hello

Everybody is entitled to their opinion and say on good and bad . That is what makes newsgroups. Since their inception and each time a new OS or Suite had a newsgroup associated with it has been so and that is what makes everyone knowledgeable about the subject(s) concerning the OS or whatever the group is about. If you say that it is bothering you then please do not read the posts or newsgroups. Not all of you or should I say most of you remember back to the newsgroups when Windows3.1 was the OS. When Windows 95 was in Beta and the newsgroup that was in place it was mayhem compared to today. You would have said everyone posting was a Troll or a complete idiot. Time has evolved and so has the newsgroups but the basic concept is still the same. Without different views (and imagine if everybody had the same) there would be no newsgroups today nor would be so many differsified people to make the Vista or any other subject be understood. This is how we learn and better ourselves. .

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Troy McClure" <nun@4u.com> wrote in message news:OD7I8rpLHHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> dude... please listen for a minute.
>
> no body really wants to keep seeing all of the negative things you post.
> yes, i know, youre just trying to help and just trying to put information
> out there... but its all negative, and its quite annoying. everyone will
> find out the good and the bad on their own. we dont need you spending your
> entire day searching the internet and posting links to bad reviews, flaws,
> etc. did you do this when xp shipped? or 98 for that matter? stop being so
> afraid of change anf if youre really this bored and have this much time on
> your hands, id like to hear some of the good things youve found in vista.
> and if you think you have a genuine concern, and not just another ms bashing
> conspiracy theory, send it to ms... we're all really tired of hearing from
> you.
>
> dont bother responding to this and trying to be clever or witty... because
> youre not. just take it with a grain of salt, get a life, and have a happy
> new year
>
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eu5BiUpLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Disclaimer: I do not endorse the following information. I am just posting
>> news that is relative to this newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36751
>>
>> Running Windows Vista's new Aero graphical interface doesn't impact PC
>> performance, a study sponsored by Microsoft claims.
>>
>> According to speed measurements of more than 60 common business chores,
>> which were conducted by North Carolina-based Principled Technologies for
>> Microsoft, using the Aero interface "had little or no negative effect on
>> Windows Vista's performance."
>>
>> Matt Ayers, a program manager with the Windows Client Performance team,
>> touted the results on the group's blog. "We put quite a bit of effort into
>> making sure that the new visuals were as efficient as possible, and it
>> really paid off," he wrote. "You can run Aero without guilt!"
>>
>> Principled Technologies measured performance with Aero on and off using a
>> Dell XPS M170 notebook equipped with 1 Gbyte of RAM, a 2.0-GHz Intel
>> Pentium M 750 single-core processor, and a graphics card with 256 Mbytes
>> of memory. The laptop's configuration met or exceeded Microsoft's own
>> minimum system requirements for what it calls a "Vista Premium Ready PC,"
>> which is a system with sufficient horsepower to run Aero. Those
>> requirements, for example, specify a graphics card with at least 128
>> Mbytes of memory.
>>
>> Aero, which can be disabled by the user, is automatically ditched for a
>> simpler, Windows XP-style interface, when Vista is run on lower-powered
>> PCs.
>>
>> The Vista performance report can be downloaded as a PDF file from here
>>
>>
>

I've actually found that if the hardware is capable of Aero and you turn off
Aero it slows the computer down. This is very noticeable if you have a
mediocre CPU and a decent graphics card. It's nice to see a study that
confirms my results.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
news:eu5BiUpLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Disclaimer: I do not endorse the following information. I am just posting
> news that is relative to this newsgroup.
>
>
> http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36751
>
> Running Windows Vista's new Aero graphical interface doesn't impact PC
> performance, a study sponsored by Microsoft claims.
>
> According to speed measurements of more than 60 common business chores,
> which were conducted by North Carolina-based Principled Technologies for
> Microsoft, using the Aero interface "had little or no negative effect on
> Windows Vista's performance."
>
> Matt Ayers, a program manager with the Windows Client Performance team,
> touted the results on the group's blog. "We put quite a bit of effort into
> making sure that the new visuals were as efficient as possible, and it
> really paid off," he wrote. "You can run Aero without guilt!"
>
> Principled Technologies measured performance with Aero on and off using a
> Dell XPS M170 notebook equipped with 1 Gbyte of RAM, a 2.0-GHz Intel
> Pentium M 750 single-core processor, and a graphics card with 256 Mbytes
> of memory. The laptop's configuration met or exceeded Microsoft's own
> minimum system requirements for what it calls a "Vista Premium Ready PC,"
> which is a system with sufficient horsepower to run Aero. Those
> requirements, for example, specify a graphics card with at least 128
> Mbytes of memory.
>
> Aero, which can be disabled by the user, is automatically ditched for a
> simpler, Windows XP-style interface, when Vista is run on lower-powered
> PCs.
>
> The Vista performance report can be downloaded as a PDF file from here
>
>

Hello... do you know if the price of the display adaptor has any difference
on performance of aero?

I am thinking about getting a new card that is not so expensive for my test
machine.
I would think that for only aero the cheap one would be ok.. since I dont
play games and stuff....


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:ukKMQQqLHHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I've actually found that if the hardware is capable of Aero and you turn
> off Aero it slows the computer down. This is very noticeable if you have a
> mediocre CPU and a decent graphics card. It's nice to see a study that
> confirms my results.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "Red nosed reindeer" <-> wrote in message
> news:eu5BiUpLHHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Disclaimer: I do not endorse the following information. I am just posting
>> news that is relative to this newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=36751
>>
>> Running Windows Vista's new Aero graphical interface doesn't impact PC
>> performance, a study sponsored by Microsoft claims.
>>
>> According to speed measurements of more than 60 common business chores,
>> which were conducted by North Carolina-based Principled Technologies for
>> Microsoft, using the Aero interface "had little or no negative effect on
>> Windows Vista's performance."
>>
>> Matt Ayers, a program manager with the Windows Client Performance team,
>> touted the results on the group's blog. "We put quite a bit of effort
>> into making sure that the new visuals were as efficient as possible, and
>> it really paid off," he wrote. "You can run Aero without guilt!"
>>
>> Principled Technologies measured performance with Aero on and off using a
>> Dell XPS M170 notebook equipped with 1 Gbyte of RAM, a 2.0-GHz Intel
>> Pentium M 750 single-core processor, and a graphics card with 256 Mbytes
>> of memory. The laptop's configuration met or exceeded Microsoft's own
>> minimum system requirements for what it calls a "Vista Premium Ready PC,"
>> which is a system with sufficient horsepower to run Aero. Those
>> requirements, for example, specify a graphics card with at least 128
>> Mbytes of memory.
>>
>> Aero, which can be disabled by the user, is automatically ditched for a
>> simpler, Windows XP-style interface, when Vista is run on lower-powered
>> PCs.
>>
>> The Vista performance report can be downloaded as a PDF file from here
>>
>>
>