Vista - backup question

lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on the D
drive... am I to understand this is not possible? from what I see the C
drive is automatically selected and cannot be unselected... if that's the
case its crazy. there must be a registry hack to change this behavior.

anyone?

Which backup program are you referring to?

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"Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
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> lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on the
> D drive... am I to understand this is not possible? from what I see the C
> drive is automatically selected and cannot be unselected... if that's the
> case its crazy. there must be a registry hack to change this behavior.
>
> anyone?
>

backup and restore center... control panel.
am i missing something?




"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Which backup program are you referring to?
>
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> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
> news:2894F5E7-430C-41FE-B699-B5CE1E101776@microsoft.com...
>> lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on the
>> D drive... am I to understand this is not possible? from what I see the C
>> drive is automatically selected and cannot be unselected... if that's the
>> case its crazy. there must be a registry hack to change this behavior.
>>
>> anyone?
>>
>
>

Well, there's Complete PC Backup and there's the File Backup. Sometimes I
can tell from context which one you're talking about, but you haven't given
me enough to go on yet :-) Both of these are in the Backup and Restore
Center. Did you choose the option to back up your computer or back up files?



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"Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
news:3A11D2B6-15A1-479F-BB82-014ABAFCA23F@microsoft.com...
> backup and restore center... control panel.
> am i missing something?
>
>
>
>
> "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23NxAFW$PHHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Which backup program are you referring to?
>>
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>> rights.
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>>
>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>> news:2894F5E7-430C-41FE-B699-B5CE1E101776@microsoft.com...
>>> lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on
>>> the D drive... am I to understand this is not possible? from what I see
>>> the C drive is automatically selected and cannot be unselected... if
>>> that's the case its crazy. there must be a registry hack to change this
>>> behavior.
>>>
>>> anyone?
>>>
>>
>>
>

If you didn't put the disclaimer at the bottom of your e-mail

> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.

would I then have rights and a warranty?

Just asking.

:-)


"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ussU0q$PHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Well, there's Complete PC Backup and there's the File Backup. Sometimes I
> can tell from context which one you're talking about, but you haven't
> given me enough to go on yet :-) Both of these are in the Backup and
> Restore Center. Did you choose the option to back up your computer or back
> up files?
>
>
>
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> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
> news:3A11D2B6-15A1-479F-BB82-014ABAFCA23F@microsoft.com...
>> backup and restore center... control panel.
>> am i missing something?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23NxAFW$PHHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Which backup program are you referring to?
>>>
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>>> rights.
>>>
>>> Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit
>>> our team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2894F5E7-430C-41FE-B699-B5CE1E101776@microsoft.com...
>>>> lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on
>>>> the D drive... am I to understand this is not possible? from what I see
>>>> the C drive is automatically selected and cannot be unselected... if
>>>> that's the case its crazy. there must be a registry hack to change this
>>>> behavior.
>>>>
>>>> anyone?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

I assume you mean the Complete PC Backup, which apparently does not allow
you to specify only one drive to back up if you have 2 or more. The
solution is to use wbadmin, which is actually the same program but runs from
the command prompt, and will allow you to back up only one drive. See
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.

"Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
news:3A11D2B6-15A1-479F-BB82-014ABAFCA23F@microsoft.com...
> backup and restore center... control panel.
> am i missing something?
>
>
>
>
> "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23NxAFW$PHHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Which backup program are you referring to?
>>
>> --
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our
>> team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>>
>>
>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>> news:2894F5E7-430C-41FE-B699-B5CE1E101776@microsoft.com...
>>> lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on
>>> the D drive... am I to understand this is not possible? from what I see
>>> the C drive is automatically selected and cannot be unselected... if
>>> that's the case its crazy. there must be a registry hack to change this
>>> behavior.
>>>
>>> anyone?
>>>
>>
>>
>

If we're talking Complete PC Backup, the reason your C drive is required is
that there are startup files on that drive that are necessary during
restore. In other words, we have to back up both the system and boot
volumes. Without imaging that C volume along with D, your computer wouldn't
start after a restore.

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"Tim" <twentworth@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23xRH$MBQHHA.4484@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I assume you mean the Complete PC Backup, which apparently does not allow
>you to specify only one drive to back up if you have 2 or more. The
>solution is to use wbadmin, which is actually the same program but runs
>from the command prompt, and will allow you to back up only one drive. See
>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>
> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
> news:3A11D2B6-15A1-479F-BB82-014ABAFCA23F@microsoft.com...
>> backup and restore center... control panel.
>> am i missing something?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23NxAFW$PHHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Which backup program are you referring to?
>>>
>>> --
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights.
>>>
>>> Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit
>>> our team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2894F5E7-430C-41FE-B699-B5CE1E101776@microsoft.com...
>>>> lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on
>>>> the D drive... am I to understand this is not possible? from what I see
>>>> the C drive is automatically selected and cannot be unselected... if
>>>> that's the case its crazy. there must be a registry hack to change this
>>>> behavior.
>>>>
>>>> anyone?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

but what if i dont want to do a "restore"... or even backup as an "image"? i
simply want to backup a bunch of files like i could for a thousand years
using NTBACKUP



"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:upDKWQBQHHA.4124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> If we're talking Complete PC Backup, the reason your C drive is required
> is that there are startup files on that drive that are necessary during
> restore. In other words, we have to back up both the system and boot
> volumes. Without imaging that C volume along with D, your computer
> wouldn't start after a restore.
>
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> rights.
>
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>
>
> "Tim" <twentworth@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:%23xRH$MBQHHA.4484@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I assume you mean the Complete PC Backup, which apparently does not allow
>>you to specify only one drive to back up if you have 2 or more. The
>>solution is to use wbadmin, which is actually the same program but runs
>>from the command prompt, and will allow you to back up only one drive.
>>See
>>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>>
>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>> news:3A11D2B6-15A1-479F-BB82-014ABAFCA23F@microsoft.com...
>>> backup and restore center... control panel.
>>> am i missing something?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23NxAFW$PHHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Which backup program are you referring to?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>>> rights.
>>>>
>>>> Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit
>>>> our team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2894F5E7-430C-41FE-B699-B5CE1E101776@microsoft.com...
>>>>> lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on
>>>>> the D drive... am I to understand this is not possible? from what I
>>>>> see the C drive is automatically selected and cannot be unselected...
>>>>> if that's the case its crazy. there must be a registry hack to change
>>>>> this behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

running now... looks like what i needed, thank you.
although i cant fathom why they would take this ability out of the gui




"Tim" <twentworth@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23xRH$MBQHHA.4484@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I assume you mean the Complete PC Backup, which apparently does not allow
>you to specify only one drive to back up if you have 2 or more. The
>solution is to use wbadmin, which is actually the same program but runs
>from the command prompt, and will allow you to back up only one drive. See
>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>
> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
> news:3A11D2B6-15A1-479F-BB82-014ABAFCA23F@microsoft.com...
>> backup and restore center... control panel.
>> am i missing something?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23NxAFW$PHHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Which backup program are you referring to?
>>>
>>> --
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights.
>>>
>>> Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit
>>> our team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2894F5E7-430C-41FE-B699-B5CE1E101776@microsoft.com...
>>>> lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on
>>>> the D drive... am I to understand this is not possible? from what I see
>>>> the C drive is automatically selected and cannot be unselected... if
>>>> that's the case its crazy. there must be a registry hack to change this
>>>> behavior.
>>>>
>>>> anyone?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

That's not quite true, Jill.

If nothing has happened to your XP volume where
those startup files are stored, and a user is just trying
to fix an issue with Vista- I don't see why there would
be a problem in restoring just Vista's volume. Those
boot files are still intact on XP's volume.

I've used Task Scheduler to run CompletePC Backup and
specified only Vista's volume. I've tested the backup and
restored the image. There was no problem.

I understand you guys are taking the "safe route" and
assuming something may have happened to the other
volume. But, it's not like it can't be done. You guys
just made CompletePC Backup to not offer that option.

However, using wbadmin you can specify only one volume,
and so long as the other volume where those startup files
are located is not funked up, the restore will work just fine,
and Vista will boot normally.

-Michael

"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:upDKWQBQHHA.4124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> If we're talking Complete PC Backup, the reason your C drive is required is that there are
> startup files on that drive that are necessary during restore. In other words, we have to
> back up both the system and boot volumes. Without imaging that C volume along with D, your
> computer wouldn't start after a restore.
>
> --
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our team blog at
> http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>
>
> "Tim" <twentworth@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:%23xRH$MBQHHA.4484@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I assume you mean the Complete PC Backup, which apparently does not allow you to specify only
>>one drive to back up if you have 2 or more. The solution is to use wbadmin, which is
>>actually the same program but runs from the command prompt, and will allow you to back up
>>only one drive. See
>>http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true.
>>
>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>> news:3A11D2B6-15A1-479F-BB82-014ABAFCA23F@microsoft.com...
>>> backup and restore center... control panel.
>>> am i missing something?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" <jillz@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23NxAFW$PHHA.1756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Which backup program are you referring to?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>>>>
>>>> Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our team blog at
>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Troy McClure" <g@s.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2894F5E7-430C-41FE-B699-B5CE1E101776@microsoft.com...
>>>>> lets say I have a C and a D drive. I want to backup ONLY the files on the D drive... am I
>>>>> to understand this is not possible? from what I see the C drive is automatically selected
>>>>> and cannot be unselected... if that's the case its crazy. there must be a registry hack
>>>>> to change this behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>