installed Vista Ultimate retail version on one home desktop and despite reading both
included docs and the web site, am not entirely clear on what/how I would recommend
this version

I read these, so my apologies for not understanding what makes this "ultimate"
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist.../ultimate.mspx
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...ions_final.asp (about halfway down
page)

my installed version is build 6000

one other related question, which defragger works well in Vista Ultimate? Diskeeper,
O&O Defrag, Perfect Disc, Winternals, etc?
or leave it running with it's internal version of DK ?

Both PerfectDisk and Diskeeper have Vista versions.

My personal favorite is Diskeeper 2007. Their Vista version
just went final. However, as of right now, they do not have a
trial available for it. I have been using it and it is far superior to
Vista's defrag. PerfectDisk is a fine product, too.

http://www.diskeeper.com/diskeeper/solutions.asp
Diskeeper Corporation has announced Microsoft Windows VistaT platform support for the Diskeeper
2007 product line. It is a free update for licensed Diskeeper 2007 customers, as well as
customers with current maintenance contracts.

Existing Diskeeper 2007 customers can contact us to receive a free link to download the defrag
and optimization software. Note that this product is for Windows Vista only. At this time it
will not install on Windows XP or Windows 2000/2003. To expedite your request place the words
"Diskeeper for Vista Request" in the subject line of the email.

If you are volume license customer, contact your Account Manager (Sales Rep). Your volume
license reseller can contact the Account Manager (Sales Rep) on your behalf as well.

If you are a home user or a small business customer, located in North America, who purchased
online from Diskeeper.com, contact the Website Sales Team at WebSales@Diskeeper.com .

You will need to provide the following:

- Your full name
- Your email address (the one initially used to purchase the product)
- Your order number
- Place the words "Diskeeper for Vista Request" in the subject line of the email



"murray" <murr@ay.zn> wrote in message news:523ladF1n2oomU1@mid.individual.net...
> installed Vista Ultimate retail version on one home desktop and despite reading both included
> docs and the web site, am not entirely clear on what/how I would recommend this version
>
> I read these, so my apologies for not understanding what makes this "ultimate"
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist.../ultimate.mspx
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...ions_final.asp (about halfway down page)
>
> my installed version is build 6000
>
> one other related question, which defragger works well in Vista Ultimate? Diskeeper, O&O
> Defrag, Perfect Disc, Winternals, etc?
> or leave it running with it's internal version of DK ?
>
>

OO is also now shipping the rtm of their Vista defragger (x86 and x64). I
prefer Diskeeper myself.

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:ekHtO8tQHHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Both PerfectDisk and Diskeeper have Vista versions.
>
> My personal favorite is Diskeeper 2007. Their Vista version
> just went final. However, as of right now, they do not have a
> trial available for it. I have been using it and it is far superior to
> Vista's defrag. PerfectDisk is a fine product, too.

I've never tried Diskeeper. Can you specify anything in particular that
leads you to prefer it to PerfectDisk? Just curious.


MICHAEL wrote:
> Both PerfectDisk and Diskeeper have Vista versions.
>
> My personal favorite is Diskeeper 2007. Their Vista version
> just went final. However, as of right now, they do not have a
> trial available for it. I have been using it and it is far superior to
> Vista's defrag. PerfectDisk is a fine product, too.
>
> http://www.diskeeper.com/diskeeper/solutions.asp
> Diskeeper Corporation has announced Microsoft Windows VistaT platform
> support for the Diskeeper 2007 product line. It is a free update for
> licensed Diskeeper 2007 customers, as well as customers with current
> maintenance contracts.
>
> Existing Diskeeper 2007 customers can contact us to receive a free link
> to download the defrag and optimization software. Note that this product
> is for Windows Vista only. At this time it will not install on Windows
> XP or Windows 2000/2003. To expedite your request place the words
> "Diskeeper for Vista Request" in the subject line of the email.
>
> If you are volume license customer, contact your Account Manager (Sales
> Rep). Your volume license reseller can contact the Account Manager
> (Sales Rep) on your behalf as well.
>
> If you are a home user or a small business customer, located in North
> America, who purchased online from Diskeeper.com, contact the Website
> Sales Team at WebSales@Diskeeper.com .
>
> You will need to provide the following:
>
> - Your full name
> - Your email address (the one initially used to purchase the product)
> - Your order number
> - Place the words "Diskeeper for Vista Request" in the subject line of
> the email
>
>
>
> "murray" <murr@ay.zn> wrote in message
> news:523ladF1n2oomU1@mid.individual.net...
>> installed Vista Ultimate retail version on one home desktop and
>> despite reading both included docs and the web site, am not entirely
>> clear on what/how I would recommend this version
>>
>> I read these, so my apologies for not understanding what makes this
>> "ultimate"
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist.../ultimate.mspx
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...ions_final.asp
>> (about halfway down page)
>>
>> my installed version is build 6000
>>
>> one other related question, which defragger works well in Vista
>> Ultimate? Diskeeper, O&O Defrag, Perfect Disc, Winternals, etc?
>> or leave it running with it's internal version of DK ?
>>
>>
>

Personal experience, David.

Diskeeper does have some nice features.

I will say, I do believe some defrag too much and
attribute too much in perceived performance gains
to defragging. Many times, were talking milliseconds
in actual improvement.

-Michael

"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
news:Ohf2olxQHHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I've never tried Diskeeper. Can you specify anything in particular that leads you to prefer
> it to PerfectDisk? Just curious.
>
>
> MICHAEL wrote:
>> Both PerfectDisk and Diskeeper have Vista versions.
>>
>> My personal favorite is Diskeeper 2007. Their Vista version
>> just went final. However, as of right now, they do not have a
>> trial available for it. I have been using it and it is far superior to
>> Vista's defrag. PerfectDisk is a fine product, too.
>>
>> http://www.diskeeper.com/diskeeper/solutions.asp
>> Diskeeper Corporation has announced Microsoft Windows VistaT platform support for the
>> Diskeeper 2007 product line. It is a free update for licensed Diskeeper 2007 customers, as
>> well as customers with current maintenance contracts.
>>
>> Existing Diskeeper 2007 customers can contact us to receive a free link to download the
>> defrag and optimization software. Note that this product is for Windows Vista only. At this
>> time it will not install on Windows XP or Windows 2000/2003. To expedite your request place
>> the words "Diskeeper for Vista Request" in the subject line of the email.
>>
>> If you are volume license customer, contact your Account Manager (Sales Rep). Your volume
>> license reseller can contact the Account Manager (Sales Rep) on your behalf as well.
>>
>> If you are a home user or a small business customer, located in North America, who purchased
>> online from Diskeeper.com, contact the Website Sales Team at WebSales@Diskeeper.com .
>>
>> You will need to provide the following:
>>
>> - Your full name
>> - Your email address (the one initially used to purchase the product)
>> - Your order number
>> - Place the words "Diskeeper for Vista Request" in the subject line of the email
>>
>>
>>
>> "murray" <murr@ay.zn> wrote in message news:523ladF1n2oomU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> installed Vista Ultimate retail version on one home desktop and despite reading both
>>> included docs and the web site, am not entirely clear on what/how I would recommend this
>>> version
>>>
>>> I read these, so my apologies for not understanding what makes this "ultimate"
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist.../ultimate.mspx
>>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...ions_final.asp (about halfway down page)
>>>
>>> my installed version is build 6000
>>>
>>> one other related question, which defragger works well in Vista Ultimate? Diskeeper, O&O
>>> Defrag, Perfect Disc, Winternals, etc?
>>> or leave it running with it's internal version of DK ?
>>>
>>>
>>

Microsoft Vista Ultimate edition is the combination of Vista Home Basic,
Vista Home Premium, Vista Business, and Vista Enterprise. Simply put, you
get features of Home Premium like Windows Media Center and Business features
like the ability to join a domain. In addition to having all the features of
the four vista editions, Vista Ultimate Edition will feature additional
applications and utilities. According to the Vista Ultimate website, as
announced at CES, the first ultimate only features will be Dream Scene, Texas
hold ‘em, and an enhanced Bit locker and EFS. Other Ultimate updates have
been planned, but have not yet announced. IMHO, Vista Ultimate edition will
be most suited to technology enthusiasts.
-
Jason Beaudette
MCSE, MCDST, MCT, MCTS: Vista Configuration

Diskeeper 2007 for Vista was several times faster than PD for Vista on large
drives in my testing. PD took all night to defrag a heavily fragged 500GB
disk with about 20% free space. I restored the image to the drive and
repeated with DK and it only took about 90 minutes.

It really isn't important which of these fine programs you use. What is
important is to defrag.

"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@microchip.com> wrote in message
news:Ohf2olxQHHA.2172@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> I've never tried Diskeeper. Can you specify anything in particular that
> leads you to prefer it to PerfectDisk? Just curious.
>
>

Murray,

Have used Vista (several Versions and several machines) for near two years;
when BitLocker and EFS are activated and employed, trial and error
experience dictates, when adding third party software add-ons, does nothing
other than induce conflicts for Vista’s incredibly Secure OS. The previous
experiences has been learned the hard method by many others including myself.

Sometimes we are humans wrongly believe what was necessary historically
might be needed today, not so in respect to using Vista Ultimate with
BitLocker and EFS employed. Again, the above learned the hard method;
however, your machine, your decision…

--
Life is Wonderful while using Vista solo !

Posting & Painting
"Painting, n.: The art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather, and
exposing them to the critic."

(Ambrose Bierce)




"murray" wrote:

> installed Vista Ultimate retail version on one home desktop and despite reading both
> included docs and the web site, am not entirely clear on what/how I would recommend
> this version
>
> I read these, so my apologies for not understanding what makes this "ultimate"
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist.../ultimate.mspx
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...ions_final.asp (about halfway down
> page)
>
> my installed version is build 6000
>
> one other related question, which defragger works well in Vista Ultimate? Diskeeper,
> O&O Defrag, Perfect Disc, Winternals, etc?
> or leave it running with it's internal version of DK ?
>
>
>