Vista - WINDOWS MOBIL DEVICE CENTER THE WORST! BRING BACK ACTIVE SYNC!

II gotta tell you I have been using Vista now for many months, all through
the beta testing blah, blah, so on and so forth.

For the most part I think O/S is a vast improvement over what they had been
offering but what I cannot understand for the life of me is why they cannot
get something as simple as syncing with mobile phones together at all.

This device center if that's what you want to call it just sucks. period
end of story.

It is truly a nightmare trying to get your files or data transferred let
alone contacts etc, and I am using something as a Motorola Q with your basic
outlook profile. It can’t even do that let alone start every time I plug the
phone in which I guess is really my main gripe at this point.

This does not just happen on my laptop, but my portable Motion running
Ultimate and my desktop running Ultimate. Just will not consistently start
when you plug in the phone. And Bluetooth syncing, forget about it, just
doesn’t happen.

What I thought would be a smooth transition and a new program that would
flawlessly transfer contacts and files has proven to be nothing but a
nightmare, NIGHTMARE!

I truly dread even trying to sync my phone as it always is a exercise in
frustration let alone a complete waste of my time. I have all but given up
and moved to using Verizon's wireless sync program as at least it's reliable.
Active Sync was far better and I never thought I would say that!

I cannot for the life of me understand how Microsoft has the never to
release something to the general public in a few days that has a major
component of its software architecture just plain old not functioning. They
should be ashamed of themselves, what are they thinking? Oh that's right,
the bottom line!

WMDC is not a component of Vista. It was taken out and made standalone
product for exactly this reason - to give WMDC team more time to test and
fix bugs. What you are dealing with right now is at best Beta 3 so expect
many bugs to be fixed in RTM.

Just trying to bring some balance to your understandably emotional post. I'm
sorry you have problems using WMDC Beta, but I was using it with my E-TEN
m600 for quite some time without any errors. Feature-wise WMDC seems to be
exact copy of ActiveSync, just the new UI. What I'm trying to say is that
"bringing back ActiveSync" does not make sense since WMDC *IS* ActiveSync.
Although I expect many things fixed before RTM, your problem may not be
directly related to WMDC, it may be USB or other hardware drivers that have
compatibility issues with Vista.

--
Alexander Suhovey


"3goldens" <3goldens@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1DCD098B-9B76-47B4-B849-55922E21D91C@microsoft.com...
> II gotta tell you I have been using Vista now for many months, all through
> the beta testing blah, blah, so on and so forth.
>
> For the most part I think O/S is a vast improvement over what they had
> been
> offering but what I cannot understand for the life of me is why they
> cannot
> get something as simple as syncing with mobile phones together at all.
>
> This device center if that's what you want to call it just sucks. period
> end of story.
>
> It is truly a nightmare trying to get your files or data transferred let
> alone contacts etc, and I am using something as a Motorola Q with your
> basic
> outlook profile. It can’t even do that let alone start every time I plug
> the
> phone in which I guess is really my main gripe at this point.
>
> This does not just happen on my laptop, but my portable Motion running
> Ultimate and my desktop running Ultimate. Just will not consistently
> start
> when you plug in the phone. And Bluetooth syncing, forget about it, just
> doesn’t happen.
>
> What I thought would be a smooth transition and a new program that would
> flawlessly transfer contacts and files has proven to be nothing but a
> nightmare, NIGHTMARE!
>
> I truly dread even trying to sync my phone as it always is a exercise in
> frustration let alone a complete waste of my time. I have all but given
> up
> and moved to using Verizon's wireless sync program as at least it's
> reliable.
> Active Sync was far better and I never thought I would say that!
>
> I cannot for the life of me understand how Microsoft has the never to
> release something to the general public in a few days that has a major
> component of its software architecture just plain old not functioning.
> They
> should be ashamed of themselves, what are they thinking? Oh that's right,
> the bottom line!
>

understood. what I did not know was this was to be a stand alone product. I
always thought it would be part of the overall new o/s, which I will again
say I am very happy with.

this may be more of a specific phone problem, i have tried it with a moto q
and the samsung i730 same inconsistent results. it most definitely is not a
usb or hardware issue as I have the same thing happening on three different
computers. but thanks for your comments and information appreciate that!

"Alexander Suhovey" wrote:

> WMDC is not a component of Vista. It was taken out and made standalone
> product for exactly this reason - to give WMDC team more time to test and
> fix bugs. What you are dealing with right now is at best Beta 3 so expect
> many bugs to be fixed in RTM.
>
> Just trying to bring some balance to your understandably emotional post. I'm
> sorry you have problems using WMDC Beta, but I was using it with my E-TEN
> m600 for quite some time without any errors. Feature-wise WMDC seems to be
> exact copy of ActiveSync, just the new UI. What I'm trying to say is that
> "bringing back ActiveSync" does not make sense since WMDC *IS* ActiveSync.
> Although I expect many things fixed before RTM, your problem may not be
> directly related to WMDC, it may be USB or other hardware drivers that have
> compatibility issues with Vista.
>
> --
> Alexander Suhovey
>
>
> "3goldens" <3goldens@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1DCD098B-9B76-47B4-B849-55922E21D91C@microsoft.com...
> > II gotta tell you I have been using Vista now for many months, all through
> > the beta testing blah, blah, so on and so forth.
> >
> > For the most part I think O/S is a vast improvement over what they had
> > been
> > offering but what I cannot understand for the life of me is why they
> > cannot
> > get something as simple as syncing with mobile phones together at all.
> >
> > This device center if that's what you want to call it just sucks. period
> > end of story.
> >
> > It is truly a nightmare trying to get your files or data transferred let
> > alone contacts etc, and I am using something as a Motorola Q with your
> > basic
> > outlook profile. It can’t even do that let alone start every time I plug
> > the
> > phone in which I guess is really my main gripe at this point.
> >
> > This does not just happen on my laptop, but my portable Motion running
> > Ultimate and my desktop running Ultimate. Just will not consistently
> > start
> > when you plug in the phone. And Bluetooth syncing, forget about it, just
> > doesn’t happen.
> >
> > What I thought would be a smooth transition and a new program that would
> > flawlessly transfer contacts and files has proven to be nothing but a
> > nightmare, NIGHTMARE!
> >
> > I truly dread even trying to sync my phone as it always is a exercise in
> > frustration let alone a complete waste of my time. I have all but given
> > up
> > and moved to using Verizon's wireless sync program as at least it's
> > reliable.
> > Active Sync was far better and I never thought I would say that!
> >
> > I cannot for the life of me understand how Microsoft has the never to
> > release something to the general public in a few days that has a major
> > component of its software architecture just plain old not functioning.
> > They
> > should be ashamed of themselves, what are they thinking? Oh that's right,
> > the bottom line!
> >
>
>

Have you tried to do a ROM update with WMDC. I have an AXIM X50v and the ROM
upgrade from 2003 Se to WM5 failed repeatedly on VISTA with WMDC. It worked
without any problems on a dual boot to the same computer on the same USB
port with the same cable. Microsoft said to contact Dell about the problem.
Dell said they only support Active Sync and had no plans to make any changes
for the X50v product but they may make changes if required for future
products. I had the same experience trying to do a ROM update for a HP
device.

Have you tried to install Microsoft Pocket Streets from the Microsoft Trips
and Streets DVD with WMDC. It complains that it cannot find Active Sync and
fails. I could not find any type of Microsoft support for Trips and Streets
with VISTA without spending $250 for a support incident. I just could not
justify $250 support for a $49 copy of Trips and Streets. I finally took a
chance and just manually copied the CAB file over to the WM5 device and it
seems to have worked.

Have you tried Audible Manager and syncing with a Windows Mobile 5 device
running Audible Player. It will sync but you have to reactivate the device
between each boot you transfer and after 5 books you have to make a call to
Audible to get the license activation reset for 5 more tries. It takes on
average 45 minutes to get through to Audible support which make it pretty
much a losing proposition especially when you subscribe to a couple of daily
Audible newspapers like I do.

Have you tried installing Microsoft OneCare on VISTA running WMDC. OneCare
shuts down WMDC. I think there are patches to get around this but it shows a
lack of communication between the various Microsoft Product groups. OneCare
should have been configured to detect and configure itself for WMDC or at
least had the rules preconfigured so they simple can be enabled.

During the VISTA beta on Connect the WMDC newsgroup only had a very few
posts by anyone on the WMDC group during the entire time and there were no
WMDC feature focus activities that I can recall trying to get organized
feedback to testing by Windows Mobile users.

I am getting some sync activity but it is inconsistent and it is a real
struggle for people like me that have three or four Windows Mobile devices.
I have had failures where calendar events go shifted in time. I have had
situations where contacts were doubled, and in one case trippled. With over
1000 contacts it is a real pain to delete every other contact to get things
back in sync. At least as far as I can tell I have not lost anything during
a sync. it just seems to multiply or shift around from time to time.

Bill Walter


"Alexander Suhovey" <asuhovey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23XESKZyQHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> WMDC is not a component of Vista. It was taken out and made standalone
> product for exactly this reason - to give WMDC team more time to test and
> fix bugs. What you are dealing with right now is at best Beta 3 so expect
> many bugs to be fixed in RTM.
>
> Just trying to bring some balance to your understandably emotional post.
> I'm sorry you have problems using WMDC Beta, but I was using it with my
> E-TEN m600 for quite some time without any errors. Feature-wise WMDC seems
> to be exact copy of ActiveSync, just the new UI. What I'm trying to say is
> that "bringing back ActiveSync" does not make sense since WMDC *IS*
> ActiveSync. Although I expect many things fixed before RTM, your problem
> may not be directly related to WMDC, it may be USB or other hardware
> drivers that have compatibility issues with Vista.
>
> --
> Alexander Suhovey
>
>
> "3goldens" <3goldens@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1DCD098B-9B76-47B4-B849-55922E21D91C@microsoft.com...
>> II gotta tell you I have been using Vista now for many months, all
>> through
>> the beta testing blah, blah, so on and so forth.
>>
>> For the most part I think O/S is a vast improvement over what they had
>> been
>> offering but what I cannot understand for the life of me is why they
>> cannot
>> get something as simple as syncing with mobile phones together at all.
>>
>> This device center if that's what you want to call it just sucks. period
>> end of story.
>>
>> It is truly a nightmare trying to get your files or data transferred let
>> alone contacts etc, and I am using something as a Motorola Q with your
>> basic
>> outlook profile. It can’t even do that let alone start every time I plug
>> the
>> phone in which I guess is really my main gripe at this point.
>>
>> This does not just happen on my laptop, but my portable Motion running
>> Ultimate and my desktop running Ultimate. Just will not consistently
>> start
>> when you plug in the phone. And Bluetooth syncing, forget about it, just
>> doesn’t happen.
>>
>> What I thought would be a smooth transition and a new program that would
>> flawlessly transfer contacts and files has proven to be nothing but a
>> nightmare, NIGHTMARE!
>>
>> I truly dread even trying to sync my phone as it always is a exercise in
>> frustration let alone a complete waste of my time. I have all but given
>> up
>> and moved to using Verizon's wireless sync program as at least it's
>> reliable.
>> Active Sync was far better and I never thought I would say that!
>>
>> I cannot for the life of me understand how Microsoft has the never to
>> release something to the general public in a few days that has a major
>> component of its software architecture just plain old not functioning.
>> They
>> should be ashamed of themselves, what are they thinking? Oh that's
>> right,
>> the bottom line!
>>
>

On Jan 28, 5:38 pm, "Bill Walter" <bwal...@resourceopt.com> wrote:
> Have you tried to do a ROM update with WMDC. I have an AXIM X50v and the ROM
> upgrade from 2003 Se to WM5 failed repeatedly on VISTA with WMDC. It worked
> without any problems on a dual boot to the same computer on the same USB
> port with the same cable. Microsoft said to contact Dell about the problem.
> Dell said they only support Active Sync and had no plans to make any changes
> for the X50v product but they may make changes if required for future
> products. I had the same experience trying to do a ROM update for a HP
> device.
>
> Have you tried to install Microsoft Pocket Streets from the Microsoft Trips
> and Streets DVD with WMDC. It complains that it cannot find Active Sync and
> fails. I could not find any type of Microsoft support for Trips and Streets
> with VISTA without spending $250 for a support incident. I just could not
> justify $250 support for a $49 copy of Trips and Streets. I finally took a
> chance and just manually copied the CAB file over to the WM5 device and it
> seems to have worked.
>
> Have you tried Audible Manager and syncing with aWindowsMobile 5 device
> running Audible Player. It will sync but you have to reactivate the device
> between each boot you transfer and after 5 books you have to make a call to
> Audible to get the license activation reset for 5 more tries. It takes on
> average 45 minutes to get through to Audible support which make it pretty
> much a losing proposition especially when you subscribe to a couple of daily
> Audible newspapers like I do.
>
> Have you tried installing MicrosoftOneCareon VISTA running WMDC.OneCare
> shuts down WMDC. I think there are patches to get around this but it shows a
> lack of communication between the various Microsoft Product groups.OneCare
> should have been configured to detect and configure itself for WMDC or at
> least had the rules preconfigured so they simple can be enabled.
>
> During the VISTA beta on Connect the WMDC newsgroup only had a very few
> posts by anyone on the WMDC group during the entire time and there were no
> WMDC feature focus activities that I can recall trying to get organized
> feedback to testing byWindowsMobile users.
>
> I am getting some sync activity but it is inconsistent and it is a real
> struggle for people like me that have three or fourWindowsMobile devices.
> I have had failures where calendar events go shifted in time. I have had
> situations where contacts were doubled, and in one case trippled. With over
> 1000 contacts it is a real pain to delete every other contact to get things
> back in sync. At least as far as I can tell I have not lost anything during
> a sync. it just seems to multiply or shift around from time to time.
>
> Bill Walter
>
> "Alexander Suhovey" <asuho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:%23XESKZyQHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > WMDC is not a component of Vista. It was taken out and made standalone
> > product for exactly this reason - to give WMDC team more time to test and
> > fix bugs. What you are dealing with right now is at best Beta 3 so expect
> > many bugs to be fixed in RTM.
>
> > Just trying to bring some balance to your understandably emotional post.
> > I'm sorry you have problems using WMDC Beta, but I was using it with my
> > E-TEN m600 for quite some time without any errors. Feature-wise WMDC seems
> > to be exact copy of ActiveSync, just the new UI. What I'm trying to say is
> > that "bringing back ActiveSync" does not make sense since WMDC *IS*
> > ActiveSync. Although I expect many things fixed before RTM, your problem
> > may not be directly related to WMDC, it may be USB or other hardware
> > drivers that have compatibility issues with Vista.
>
> > --
> > Alexander Suhovey
>
> > "3goldens" <3gold...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:1DCD098B-9B76-47B4-B849-55922E21D91C@microsoft.com...
> >> II gotta tell you I have been using Vista now for many months, all
> >> through
> >> the beta testing blah, blah, so on and so forth.
>
> >> For the most part I think O/S is a vast improvement over what they had
> >> been
> >> offering but what I cannot understand for the life of me is why they
> >> cannot
> >> get something as simple as syncing with mobile phones together at all.
>
> >> This device center if that's what you want to call it just sucks. period
> >> end of story.
>
> >> It is truly a nightmare trying to get your files or data transferred let
> >> alone contacts etc, and I am using something as a Motorola Q with your
> >> basic
> >> outlook profile. It can't even do that let alone start every time I plug
> >> the
> >> phone in which I guess is really my main gripe at this point.
>
> >> This does not just happen on my laptop, but my portable Motion running
> >> Ultimate and my desktop running Ultimate. Just will not consistently
> >> start
> >> when you plug in the phone. And Bluetooth syncing, forget about it, just
> >> doesn't happen.
>
> >> What I thought would be a smooth transition and a new program that would
> >> flawlessly transfer contacts and files has proven to be nothing but a
> >> nightmare, NIGHTMARE!
>
> >> I truly dread even trying to sync my phone as it always is a exercise in
> >> frustration let alone a complete waste of my time. I have all but given
> >> up
> >> and moved to using Verizon's wireless sync program as at least it's
> >> reliable.
> >> Active Sync was far better and I never thought I would say that!
>
> >> I cannot for the life of me understand how Microsoft has the never to
> >> release something to the general public in a few days that has a major
> >> component of its software architecture just plain old not functioning.
> >> They
> >> should be ashamed of themselves, what are they thinking? Oh that's
> >> right,
> >> the bottom line!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

To get WMDC work with OneCare you need to configure OneCare firewall.
You can do that by
1. Go to OneCare UI.
2. Change OneCare Settings.
3. Accept Vista UAC prompt.
4. Firewall Tab.
5. Firewall Connection tool.
6. Select WMDC/Active Sync rule.
7. Hit OK twice.

WMDC should now work on Visa.

On Jan 28, 4:26 pm, 3goldens <3gold...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
> II gotta tell you I have been usingVistanow for many months, all through
> the beta testing blah, blah, so on and so forth.
>
> For the most part I think O/S is a vast improvement over what they had been
> offering but what I cannot understand for the life of me is why they cannot
> get something as simple as syncing with mobile phones together at all.
>
> This device center if that's what you want to call it just sucks. period
> end of story.
>
> It is truly a nightmare trying to get your files or data transferred let
> alone contacts etc, and I am using something as a Motorola Q with your basic
> outlook profile. It can't even do that let alone start every time I plug the
> phone in which I guess is really my main gripe at this point.
>
> This does not just happen on my laptop, but my portable Motion running
> Ultimate and my desktop running Ultimate. Just will not consistently start
> when you plug in the phone. And Bluetooth syncing, forget about it, just
> doesn't happen.
>
> What I thought would be a smooth transition and a new program that would
> flawlessly transfer contacts and files has proven to be nothing but a
> nightmare, NIGHTMARE!
>
> I truly dread even trying to sync my phone as it always is a exercise in
> frustration let alone a complete waste of my time. I have all but given up
> and moved to using Verizon'swireless syncprogram as at least it's reliable.
> Active Sync was far better and I never thought I would say that!
>
> I cannot for the life of me understand how Microsoft has the never to
> release something to the general public in a few days that has a major
> component of itssoftwarearchitecture just plain old not functioning. They
> should be ashamed of themselves, what are they thinking? Oh that's right,
> the bottom line!

Do you know if VZW's wireless sync software works with Windows Vista?
I have been trying to download the PC Monitor software to my new
computer and can't get it to even download. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks.