Vista - MS Live One Care

How does Windows Live One Care compare with Norton Anti-Virus? Does it do a
comparable job of detecting & eliminating viruses, etc?

Yes.

"Thomas Jones" <tajones50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uaJSPK7QHHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> How does Windows Live One Care compare with Norton Anti-Virus? Does it do
> a comparable job of detecting & eliminating viruses, etc?
>

In my humble opinion after years of fixing Norton screwups for people on
forums and beta testing WOC from the first day and continuing to test it in
the future:

1) WOC takes less space.

2) WOC now is considerably less buggy.

3) Norton tends to break for a siginifcant percent of users or have
significant problems after it has been setup even months out.

4) Norton requires more CPU day in day out.

5) Norton often does not install or uninstall cleanly and to uninstall often
requires

a) special zap tools
b) tedious manual uninstalls that are time consuming and require deleting
multiple registry keys and files that are easy to find once you have done
this several times but not easy to find when you have not

6) Symantec (Norton') KB situation is byzantine, disorganized, unweildy,
systemically lacks updates.

That'd be at www.norton.com/search

7) I've found them to be manipulative in the vein of trying to get you to
buy a new yellow box every year when that isn't needed.

8) Updating definitions is crucial. Norton does it every Wednesday in the
latter afternoon or early evening Pacific US time. If you want to do it
daily, you have to do it manually by shortcutting to Intelligent Updater.

Win One Care does it seamlessly consistently in the background.

9) Finally, Norton is more expensive than WOC which is very reasonably
priced and allows you to take the rougly $30 application and use it on 3
boxes. There are some discounts on this in US stores right now that ran in
yesterday's papers.

Good luck,

CH



"Thomas Jones" <tajones50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uaJSPK7QHHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> How does Windows Live One Care compare with Norton Anti-Virus? Does it do
> a comparable job of detecting & eliminating viruses, etc?
>

I forgot to add that WOC has additiona feature including a tuneup to promote
better CPU use, and a backup that has considerable functionality althought
not quite as robust as the one in Vista. That backup alone is worth the
modest price if you don't have Vista.

http://get.live.com/onecare/features

http://windowsonecare.spaces.live.com/

There is also a public group with MVP participation to help with
questions/problems:

http://forums.microsoft.com/windowso....aspx?siteid=2

CH

CH





"Thomas Jones" <tajones50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uaJSPK7QHHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> How does Windows Live One Care compare with Norton Anti-Virus? Does it do
> a comparable job of detecting & eliminating viruses, etc?
>

Norton is so intrusive that there were times when I felt like I was actually
running Windows on my Norton OS. In spite of the hyperbole, I am glad I
wised up and dumped it.

"Chad Harris" <fixvista-itneedsit.net> wrote in message
news:uguolC8QHHA.1860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> In my humble opinion after years of fixing Norton screwups for people on
> forums and beta testing WOC from the first day and continuing to test it
> in the future:
>
> 1) WOC takes less space.
>
> 2) WOC now is considerably less buggy.
>
> 3) Norton tends to break for a siginifcant percent of users or have
> significant problems after it has been setup even months out.
>
> 4) Norton requires more CPU day in day out.
>
> 5) Norton often does not install or uninstall cleanly and to uninstall
> often requires
>
> a) special zap tools
> b) tedious manual uninstalls that are time consuming and require deleting
> multiple registry keys and files that are easy to find once you have done
> this several times but not easy to find when you have not
>
> 6) Symantec (Norton') KB situation is byzantine, disorganized, unweildy,
> systemically lacks updates.
>
> That'd be at www.norton.com/search
>
> 7) I've found them to be manipulative in the vein of trying to get you to
> buy a new yellow box every year when that isn't needed.
>
> 8) Updating definitions is crucial. Norton does it every Wednesday in the
> latter afternoon or early evening Pacific US time. If you want to do it
> daily, you have to do it manually by shortcutting to Intelligent Updater.
>
> Win One Care does it seamlessly consistently in the background.
>
> 9) Finally, Norton is more expensive than WOC which is very reasonably
> priced and allows you to take the rougly $30 application and use it on 3
> boxes. There are some discounts on this in US stores right now that ran
> in yesterday's papers.
>
> Good luck,
>
> CH
>
>
>
> "Thomas Jones" <tajones50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uaJSPK7QHHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> How does Windows Live One Care compare with Norton Anti-Virus? Does it do
>> a comparable job of detecting & eliminating viruses, etc?
>>
>

"Thomas Jones" wrote

> How does Windows Live One Care compare with Norton Anti-Virus? Does it do
> a comparable job of detecting & eliminating viruses, etc?

As an Anti-Virus Norton has a better hit rate. OneCare is one of the worst
for that. On the other hand Norton home products take a horrible toll on
the system in resources, and often cause problems, either sooner or later.
In the XP OS, your much better off not using any of the Norton Home products
nor any of the other large security suites. Vista hasn't been out long
enough and I don't even know if NAV works on Vista yet, but I can't see
Symantec changing their ways and making it lean and smooth running.

I have not worked with the other features of Live OneCare but based on the
AV aspect I would recommend against using it for now. There are some good
3rd party AV programs, both free and cost: AVG, Avast, Nod32.

--
Rock [MVP - User/Shell]

Do you find that WOC is customized and tuned for VISTA when you install it
on a VISTA system.

Does it customize and enhance the VISTA Firewall or do you end up with two
firewalls and have to decide which one to use?

Does the WOC tune-up enhance the tune-up scheduled defrag and backup
included in VISTA or does it replace the VISTA tune-up and backup tools?

Does WOC recognize VISTA enhancements like Windows Mobile Device Center and
properly configure the firewall to allow Windows Mobile device syncing?

Bill Walter

"Chad Harris" <fixvista-itneedsit.net> wrote in message
news:uguolC8QHHA.1860@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> In my humble opinion after years of fixing Norton screwups for people on
> forums and beta testing WOC from the first day and continuing to test it
> in the future:
>
> 1) WOC takes less space.
>
> 2) WOC now is considerably less buggy.
>
> 3) Norton tends to break for a siginifcant percent of users or have
> significant problems after it has been setup even months out.
>
> 4) Norton requires more CPU day in day out.
>
> 5) Norton often does not install or uninstall cleanly and to uninstall
> often requires
>
> a) special zap tools
> b) tedious manual uninstalls that are time consuming and require deleting
> multiple registry keys and files that are easy to find once you have done
> this several times but not easy to find when you have not
>
> 6) Symantec (Norton') KB situation is byzantine, disorganized, unweildy,
> systemically lacks updates.
>
> That'd be at www.norton.com/search
>
> 7) I've found them to be manipulative in the vein of trying to get you to
> buy a new yellow box every year when that isn't needed.
>
> 8) Updating definitions is crucial. Norton does it every Wednesday in the
> latter afternoon or early evening Pacific US time. If you want to do it
> daily, you have to do it manually by shortcutting to Intelligent Updater.
>
> Win One Care does it seamlessly consistently in the background.
>
> 9) Finally, Norton is more expensive than WOC which is very reasonably
> priced and allows you to take the rougly $30 application and use it on 3
> boxes. There are some discounts on this in US stores right now that ran
> in yesterday's papers.
>
> Good luck,
>
> CH
>
>
>
> "Thomas Jones" <tajones50@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uaJSPK7QHHA.4060@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> How does Windows Live One Care compare with Norton Anti-Virus? Does it do
>> a comparable job of detecting & eliminating viruses, etc?
>>
>

OneCare has a different firewall engine than Vista and turns Vista
firewall off.
OneCare firewall has predefined rules for WMDC. You do not have to
know port numbers etc. However, it does not turn on the rule
automatically.
You need to go to firewall tab in Advanced settings, open firewall
connection tool and configure the port number.