On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:58:07 -0800, Dustin Harper
<dharper@vistarip.com> wrote:

>LEGALLY, it's one license per computer. Whether or not you follow that
>and don't get audited is your deal.

REALISTICALLY, who has the time to actually worry about it?

I work for 2 companies and have several personal projects. I do not
have time to worry about what licenses run on what machines...

Large companies may have time to waste towards such things, I
personally don't.

And when I own more licenses than I have computers...

I mean I understand MS trying to go against piracy. That is all fine
and good. But when it comes at a cost of making the legitimate users
life a royal pain...it's gone too far.



And if it goes to the point where it becomes unfeasible to use except
for people that just buy a pre-installed dell and never touch their
system...it will be time to consider alternatives.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

kimi no koto omoidasu hi nante nai no wa
kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara

Don't bang your head against that wall, it falls on deaf ears.

Rule of thumb for people who don't want to think too much about it?

1. Don't steal.
2. And don't engage in surpassing copyright offence.

Saucy Lemon


"Stephan Rose" <kermos@somrek.diespammer.net> wrote in message
news:h3ncs29ne5dpoigqpl5h889d6dkp39euq8@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:58:07 -0800, Dustin Harper
> <dharper@vistarip.com> wrote:
>
>>LEGALLY, it's one license per computer. Whether or not you follow that
>>and don't get audited is your deal.
>
> REALISTICALLY, who has the time to actually worry about it?
>
> I work for 2 companies and have several personal projects. I do not
> have time to worry about what licenses run on what machines...
>
> Large companies may have time to waste towards such things, I
> personally don't.
>
> And when I own more licenses than I have computers...
>
> I mean I understand MS trying to go against piracy. That is all fine
> and good. But when it comes at a cost of making the legitimate users
> life a royal pain...it's gone too far.
>
> And if it goes to the point where it becomes unfeasible to use except
> for people that just buy a pre-installed dell and never touch their
> system...it will be time to consider alternatives.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> kimi no koto omoidasu hi nante nai no wa
> kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara

Hey, it's not legal. Realistically, it's not legal.

Yes, it might work. But, if you were to get audited by a licensing
lawyer, you'd be paying fines up the butt. Being legal with these issues
(especially with a business) is just another part of being a computer
user. No one is forcing you to give up your XP installations.

And it doesn't take much time at all to make sure you are legit. You get
a lot more extra's: support, updates, better software downloads.

Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.vistarip.com



Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:58:07 -0800, Dustin Harper
> <dharper@vistarip.com> wrote:
>
>> LEGALLY, it's one license per computer. Whether or not you follow that
>> and don't get audited is your deal.
>
> REALISTICALLY, who has the time to actually worry about it?
>
> I work for 2 companies and have several personal projects. I do not
> have time to worry about what licenses run on what machines...
>
> Large companies may have time to waste towards such things, I
> personally don't.
>
> And when I own more licenses than I have computers...
>
> I mean I understand MS trying to go against piracy. That is all fine
> and good. But when it comes at a cost of making the legitimate users
> life a royal pain...it's gone too far.
>
> And if it goes to the point where it becomes unfeasible to use except
> for people that just buy a pre-installed dell and never touch their
> system...it will be time to consider alternatives.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> kimi no koto omoidasu hi nante nai no wa
> kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara

As many as you want, however you can activate only one install, the others you can run for 30 days (if you installed without a PK and rearm 3 times for a total of 120 day) after which you will have to either purchase a valid PK for each install or remove that Vista install.


"solarcom78" <solarcom78@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FD9A6BE7-98BF-4D22-9440-65F318E4D4D8@microsoft.com...
>I have one laptop and one desktop, do I need to two copies of Vista? or can 1
> copy of vista be used on 1 laptop and one desktop?

Don't tell that to the Pharisee Dale, or he might snitch on you to Lt. Frank
Drebbin of the Police Squad!


"Stephan Rose" <kermos@somrek.diespammer.net> wrote in message
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>> It's a friggin pain in the ass...
>
> I have like 6 or 7 XP licenses running on 5 computers...I couldn't
> care less what license runs on WHAT machine...
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> kimi no koto omoidasu hi nante nai no wa
> kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara

Well, he probably won't get caught, but don't be shocked if you do and
have to pay the fines.



Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.vistarip.com



William wrote:
> Don't tell that to the Pharisee Dale, or he might snitch on you to Lt.
> Frank Drebbin of the Police Squad!
>
>
> "Stephan Rose" <kermos@somrek.diespammer.net> wrote in message
> news:46lcs2h6ntgmtqprrferikvv9qauhik2dg@4ax.com...
>>> It's a friggin pain in the ass...
>>
>> I have like 6 or 7 XP licenses running on 5 computers...I couldn't
>> care less what license runs on WHAT machine...
>>
>> --
>> Stephan
>> 2003 Yamaha R6
>>
>> kimi no koto omoidasu hi nante nai no wa
>> kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara
>

On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:02:01 -0800, Dustin Harper
<dharper@vistarip.com> wrote:

>Hey, it's not legal. Realistically, it's not legal.
>
>Yes, it might work. But, if you were to get audited by a licensing
>lawyer, you'd be paying fines up the butt. Being legal with these issues
>(especially with a business) is just another part of being a computer
>user. No one is forcing you to give up your XP installations.
>
>And it doesn't take much time at all to make sure you are legit. You get
>a lot more extra's: support, updates, better software downloads.

Seeing how I own more licenses than I need, I am legit and get all of
the above. Not that I care about support...I've yet to use it...ever.
The windows genuine authentication thing is happy on all my machines
so...I apparently am doing something right.

I am just saying that all these hoops these days that a user has to
jump through is ridiculuous. It's right along up there with all the
DRM crap.

And as far as I am concerned, it is all going the wrong direction.
Making a users life difficult is the wrong cost to pay for security.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

kimi no koto omoidasu hi nante nai no wa
kimi no koto wasureta toki ga nai kara

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 15:11:57 -0600, Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> You need to purchase a copy of Vista for each computer.

So I can alnstall two copies of the same Vista license onto two HDD's so
long as they are on the same computer? Nope. Tried that with XP and was
told I need to buy a license for each install of XP even if it is on the
same computer. Pure BS.

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:25:32 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:


> You need two copies. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license)
> for each computer.

OK, if it's one license per computer then I can install it twice on the
same PC using two different HDD's, right?

Pipboy wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:25:32 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>
>
>> You need two copies. The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one
>> license) for each computer.
>
> OK, if it's one license per computer then I can install it twice on
> the same PC using two different HDD's, right?


Although what you say makes sense to me, no, that's not the way Microsoft
interprets it.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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