Vista - Windows Mail - no support for http - e.g. hotmail? Why did they get rid of Outlook Express

Outlook express supported HTTP no problem. Why did they get rid of it if
they didn't include a suitable upgrade in Vista? If they gave outlook out
for free that would be one thing but here they left their own users out
unless there is some other program in Vista (short of IE web mail) that I'm
missing.

Nope. you're missing nothing.

You can have the http mail in windows mail if you are an office live member
or, Outlook supports Office Live accounts also.

But there's no more free hotmail AND free http mail in Outlook or windows
mail.

Sign up for an office live account and you can have your cake and eat it
too!



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"boe" <boe_d@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Outlook express supported HTTP no problem. Why did they get rid of it if
> they didn't include a suitable upgrade in Vista? If they gave outlook
> out for free that would be one thing but here they left their own users
> out unless there is some other program in Vista (short of IE web mail)
> that I'm missing.
>

"boe" <boe_d@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Outlook express supported HTTP no problem. Why did they get rid of it if
> they didn't include a suitable upgrade in Vista? If they gave outlook
> out for free that would be one thing but here they left their own users
> out unless there is some other program in Vista (short of IE web mail)
> that I'm missing.
>

I ran the free bee in Vista RC2 with no problems on hotmail. Have as yet
gotten the time to get the upgrade installed on my testing box.

/\/\iller



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"DaShard" <surfin@thebeach> wrote in message
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> Nope. you're missing nothing.
>
> You can have the http mail in windows mail if you are an office live
> member or, Outlook supports Office Live accounts also.

No. You cannot access Hotmail with Windows Mail, whether your have a paid
account or not.


> But there's no more free hotmail AND free http mail in Outlook or windows
> mail.

Yes there is. If you have an old legacy account, over x years old, you can
still use Outlook (or Thunderbird) to access your Hotmail. I have two such
accounts.

> Sign up for an office live account and you can have your cake and eat it
> too!

Rubbish.

ss.

"boe" <boe_d@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Outlook express supported HTTP no problem. Why did they get rid of it if
> they didn't include a suitable upgrade in Vista? If they gave outlook
> out for free that would be one thing but here they left their own users
> out unless there is some other program in Vista (short of IE web mail)
> that I'm missing.


There is no support for Hotmail in Windows Mail, and I can't understand it
either. I believe that Thunderbird can access Hotmail (you might need an
addon). There is also 'Windows Live Mail Desktop', which is another program
you can download. This can run on Vista or XP, RSS support, an awful
skinned interface and adverts, but it supports Hotmail.

ss.

"awful" for that mostrocity is an understatment!!!

its certainly designed by the same dorks that designed the vista interface


"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
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> "boe" <boe_d@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e$TFT0OSHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Outlook express supported HTTP no problem. Why did they get rid of it
>> if they didn't include a suitable upgrade in Vista? If they gave
>> outlook out for free that would be one thing but here they left their own
>> users out unless there is some other program in Vista (short of IE web
>> mail) that I'm missing.
>
>
> There is no support for Hotmail in Windows Mail, and I can't understand it
> either. I believe that Thunderbird can access Hotmail (you might need an
> addon). There is also 'Windows Live Mail Desktop', which is another
> program you can download. This can run on Vista or XP, RSS support, an
> awful skinned interface and adverts, but it supports Hotmail.
>
> ss.

Does anyone have a clue why windows have done this?
and is there a proper solution where you can have something very similar to Outlook? where you can download and send emails on and off line?

I can't understand what Microsoft were thinking. It is pathetic and stupidly annoying! I thought upgrading meant taking a step forward not a step backward!
I think I might just go back to windows xp.

Window Live Mail Desktop is free and receives Windows Live Hotmail, Gmail,
Yahoo mail, POP3 and IMAP.
WLMD: http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas

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"Damiendemon" <Damiendemon.2pyv0e@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> Does anyone have a clue why windows have done this?
> and is there a proper solution where you can have something very
> similar to Outlook? where you can download and send emails on and off
> line?
>
> I can't understand what Microsoft were thinking. It is pathetic and
> stupidly annoying! I thought upgrading meant taking a step forward not a
> step backward!
> I think I might just go back to windows xp.
>
>
> --
> Damiendemon

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Window Live Mail Desktop is free and receives Windows Live Hotmail, Gmail,
> Yahoo mail, POP3 and IMAP.
> WLMD: http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>

Frank,
I use (Vista) Windows Mail and like it -- except for the Hotmail thing.
Question: Can I install WLMD and still use Windows Mail, or will WLMD nuke
WM? I'd like to use both, I guess. Comments?
Note: as the other person wrote, there is no logical reason that Microsoft
disallowed HTTP mail on Windows Mail, especially now that they're allowing
it for WLMD. What am I missing??
Regards,
EW

* LoneStar:
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OKEjb4PjHHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Window Live Mail Desktop is free and receives Windows Live Hotmail, Gmail,
>> Yahoo mail, POP3 and IMAP.
>> WLMD: http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
>>
>
> Frank,
> I use (Vista) Windows Mail and like it -- except for the Hotmail thing.
> Question: Can I install WLMD and still use Windows Mail, or will WLMD nuke
> WM? I'd like to use both, I guess. Comments?
> Note: as the other person wrote, there is no logical reason that Microsoft
> disallowed HTTP mail on Windows Mail, especially now that they're allowing
> it for WLMD.

> What am I missing??

Adware.


-Michael