Vista - Sapphire X1950XT 256mb

Anyone else having problems with this card and windows vista ultimate (I'm
getting hardware and driver faults) with the new catalyst 7.1 drivers. I
know the card is ok as it was working perfectly before under win XP, and
also works ok on another up machine.

Any Ideas

> Anyone else having problems with this card and windows vista ultimate (I'm
> getting hardware and driver faults) with the new catalyst 7.1 drivers. I
> know the card is ok as it was working perfectly before under win XP, and
> also works ok on another up machine.
>
Just a thought, it may have to do with cooling on the card -- Vista is
going to push the video processor and video memory more than say XP.
So you might be seeing problems that way.

Personally, the money saving I've seen on high end video card fans
seems foolish as that is a very obvious point of failure -- even more
so with all the tools to over clock the cards.

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Barry Schnur

Yeh, I have this card and have problems with vista just freezing. Not sure if
it is down to the card but, on a system with not much else on it, this has
been where my focus has ended. I would be surprised if Vista is pushing this
card to anywhere near its max which makes me think it's a software problem. I
installed the 7.1 update for vista and it stopped vista complaining about the
graphics driver but didn't help with the freezing. What problems are you
seeing?

Ian


"David Warburton" wrote:

> Anyone else having problems with this card and windows vista ultimate (I'm
> getting hardware and driver faults) with the new catalyst 7.1 drivers. I
> know the card is ok as it was working perfectly before under win XP, and
> also works ok on another up machine.
>
> Any Ideas
>
>

This has nothing to do with temps >_>
The card had a 2D and a 3D mode. My card runs at 500/594 in desktop mode,
and 621/1800 in 3D mode. Before you start complaining, read some reviews, go
to the company website and read. People have been complaining about this
issue since this card was released. There are forums full of people saying
WOW this thing only runs at 500/594
now, Vista is such a tightly made OS, that I think that when the card trys
to change to 3D mode when playing a game that it just doesnt allow the card
to do it, so thats why
I hope this problem gets fixed in ati catalyst 7.12
you have 3 options to bypassing this problem, all of which only allows you
to use 2D mode


1. Use the latest Cat 7.1 but DO NOT install the CCC (or if you do, be sure
to disable the ATI Hotkey Poller service) - Not acceptable because you lose
3D speed functionality and support for profiles and features such as AA, AF,
etc etc

2. Use the MS WDM - Not acceptable because you lose 3D speed functionality,
support for profiles and features such as AA, AF, etc etc and you are using
an outdated driver that is crippling the card.

3. Wait for ATI to release a better driver (are they even aware this problem
exists? I posted on 4 forums over 3 weeks ago about it),or purchase Nvidia
(who currently isnt doing much better with their drivers).

this is some complete BS that is happening, but atleast if you do step one
or two, you get to atleast play games >_<
there are many topic on many forums on this problem, unfortunately its only
limited to the x1950xt because atm it seems that the x1950xt is the only card
that has a 2D and 3D mode

LOL
guess what I've found
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...ase_notes.html
these are the release notes for catalyst 7.2 out today.....As you scroll down
you will see a little line that says that X1950XT cards are NOT supported by
windows vista.... so theres your answer, we pay loads of cash for top end
cards, and they arn't even supported.

"pissed off x1950xt owner" wrote:

> This has nothing to do with temps >_>
> The card had a 2D and a 3D mode. My card runs at 500/594 in desktop mode,
> and 621/1800 in 3D mode. Before you start complaining, read some reviews, go
> to the company website and read. People have been complaining about this
> issue since this card was released. There are forums full of people saying
> WOW this thing only runs at 500/594
> now, Vista is such a tightly made OS, that I think that when the card trys
> to change to 3D mode when playing a game that it just doesnt allow the card
> to do it, so thats why
> I hope this problem gets fixed in ati catalyst 7.12
> you have 3 options to bypassing this problem, all of which only allows you
> to use 2D mode
>
>
> 1. Use the latest Cat 7.1 but DO NOT install the CCC (or if you do, be sure
> to disable the ATI Hotkey Poller service) - Not acceptable because you lose
> 3D speed functionality and support for profiles and features such as AA, AF,
> etc etc
>
> 2. Use the MS WDM - Not acceptable because you lose 3D speed functionality,
> support for profiles and features such as AA, AF, etc etc and you are using
> an outdated driver that is crippling the card.
>
> 3. Wait for ATI to release a better driver (are they even aware this problem
> exists? I posted on 4 forums over 3 weeks ago about it),or purchase Nvidia
> (who currently isnt doing much better with their drivers).
>
> this is some complete BS that is happening, but atleast if you do step one
> or two, you get to atleast play games >_<
> there are many topic on many forums on this problem, unfortunately its only
> limited to the x1950xt because atm it seems that the x1950xt is the only card
> that has a 2D and 3D mode

oh this is some complete BS!!!!
on the friggin front of the box, it says "Vista Ready", when it is obviously
NOT vista ready
friggin AMD gotta clean up their game, ima contact my lawyer and see if I
can take any legal measures against this

Please explain how the 1950 is NOT Vista ready? I was looking on getting
one.


"pissed off x1950xt owner" <pissedoffx1950xtowner@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news1CD7A07-E457-4871-915F-37A261D2101E@microsoft.com...
> oh this is some complete BS!!!!
> on the friggin front of the box, it says "Vista Ready", when it is
> obviously
> NOT vista ready
> friggin AMD gotta clean up their game, ima contact my lawyer and see if I
> can take any legal measures against this


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Currently (at least with the 7.2 Catalyst driver version) the 1950XT is
not supported (I suspect it will be in the next month or so -- but
that's a guess). From the release note:

Caution: The ATI Radeon™ X1950 GT is currently not supported under
the Windows Vista operating system

Another note -- which is a similar issue with the lack of SLI support
for Vista from nVidia is lack of support for Crossfire configurations.

Another note -- there are PCI-X16 cards ATI is apparently not
supporting (outside of generic Vista support via Microsoft):

The X200 (often embedded in MicroATX motherboards is not listed).

The Capture driver is not supported for Crossfire X1600, regular X1100,
and the x200 series.

With the 7.2 driver there are still unresolved issues with a number of
games as well.

So the race is on, which will be really ready first, ATI, nVidia, or
Vista <smile>


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Barry Schnur

hey hey hey
fix was found
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread....1147110&page=7

The thing is, video drivers and Vista, especially for gamers, is going
to be 'interesting times' for a while.


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Barry Schnur