Vista - vista is crap

I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to install or
run vista.
Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers for
the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place before
i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb drive set
all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the dvd are
gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating now.what
to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home premium
for my two systems in my home.
what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet release
it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money back,stay
with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but good.
IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE PROGRAMS TO
IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.

sorry to hear you have all this aggravation. I would think someone with your
knowledge would wait and see rather than be the first guy on the block.

Hope your issures are resolved easily
"JOE D" <JOE D@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2840B079-3962-4F57-B776-98751D84D756@microsoft.com...
>I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to install
>or
> run vista.
> Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers for
> the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place
> before
> i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb drive
> set
> all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the dvd
> are
> gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating
> now.what
> to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home
> premium
> for my two systems in my home.
> what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet release
> it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money
> back,stay
> with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but
> good.
> IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE PROGRAMS
> TO
> IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.

Return Vista to the seller.
Or if you live in North America, return to Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/prod...und/refund.asp

But first verify the hardware is compatible with Vista.
New does not guarantee Vista compatibility.
Remove all non essential components such as NIC, sound card, modem etc and
then try installing Vista.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"JOE D" <JOE D@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2840B079-3962-4F57-B776-98751D84D756@microsoft.com...
>I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to install
>or
> run vista.
> Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers for
> the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place
> before
> i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb drive
> set
> all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the dvd
> are
> gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating
> now.what
> to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home
> premium
> for my two systems in my home.
> what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet release
> it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money
> back,stay
> with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but
> good.
> IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE PROGRAMS
> TO
> IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.

Take time to figure what went wrong. These things are a bit of a process of
elimination. Sometimes a 'minimal' install is a good idea, then add hardware
piece by piece. Vista should recognize most DVD and CD-ROM drives. If need
be, if the DVD drive is the problem, get your hands on an inexpensive
ordinary DVD ROM drive that is known to work with Vista and use it to
install. And so on ..

I probably can't help you much further but at what point exactly did the
install routine first throw up a problem? Was there an error message, and,
if so, what was it exactly?

Saucy Lemon


"JOE D" <JOE D@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2840B079-3962-4F57-B776-98751D84D756@microsoft.com...
>I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to install
>or
> run vista.
> Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers for
> the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place
> before
> i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb drive
> set
> all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the dvd
> are
> gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating
> now.what
> to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home
> premium
> for my two systems in my home.
> what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet release
> it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money
> back,stay
> with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but
> good.
> IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE PROGRAMS
> TO
> IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.

"JOE D" <JOE D@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2840B079-3962-4F57-B776-98751D84D756@microsoft.com...
>I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to install
>or
> run vista.
> Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers for
> the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place
> before
> i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb drive
> set
> all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the dvd
> are
> gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating
> now.what
> to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home
> premium
> for my two systems in my home.
> what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet release
> it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money
> back,stay
> with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but
> good.
> IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE PROGRAMS
> TO
> IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.

That's the price you pay for being an early adopter. You have to blame only
yourself. How many 1st generation products are trouble-free? Not many.
That's especially true for software. When was the last time that a software
program ran perfectly without a single patch whatsoever?

no errors every thing is brand new,purchased 2/4/07 straight from there boxs


"Saucy Lemon" wrote:

> Take time to figure what went wrong. These things are a bit of a process of
> elimination. Sometimes a 'minimal' install is a good idea, then add hardware
> piece by piece. Vista should recognize most DVD and CD-ROM drives. If need
> be, if the DVD drive is the problem, get your hands on an inexpensive
> ordinary DVD ROM drive that is known to work with Vista and use it to
> install. And so on ..
>
> I probably can't help you much further but at what point exactly did the
> install routine first throw up a problem? Was there an error message, and,
> if so, what was it exactly?
>
> Saucy Lemon
>
>
> "JOE D" <JOE D@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2840B079-3962-4F57-B776-98751D84D756@microsoft.com...
> >I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to install
> >or
> > run vista.
> > Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers for
> > the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place
> > before
> > i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb drive
> > set
> > all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the dvd
> > are
> > gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating
> > now.what
> > to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home
> > premium
> > for my two systems in my home.
> > what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet release
> > it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money
> > back,stay
> > with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but
> > good.
> > IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE PROGRAMS
> > TO
> > IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.
>
>

Your right,but they've been working on this for 3-4 years,+ I should have
listen to myself and not the computer jerk where i purchased all the new hard
wear, but it's still good to vent, and worn others not to make my mistake.

"FKS" wrote:

>
> "JOE D" <JOE D@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2840B079-3962-4F57-B776-98751D84D756@microsoft.com...
> >I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to install
> >or
> > run vista.
> > Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers for
> > the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place
> > before
> > i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb drive
> > set
> > all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the dvd
> > are
> > gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating
> > now.what
> > to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home
> > premium
> > for my two systems in my home.
> > what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet release
> > it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money
> > back,stay
> > with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but
> > good.
> > IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE PROGRAMS
> > TO
> > IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.
>
> That's the price you pay for being an early adopter. You have to blame only
> yourself. How many 1st generation products are trouble-free? Not many.
> That's especially true for software. When was the last time that a software
> program ran perfectly without a single patch whatsoever?
>
>
>

I figure you are doing a clean install from scratch - is that so?

Saucy Lemon


"JOE D" <JOED@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AFF12EC8-EEDC-4F23-A97D-C3B44E973C83@microsoft.com...
> no errors every thing is brand new,purchased 2/4/07 straight from there
> boxs
>
>
> "Saucy Lemon" wrote:
>
>> Take time to figure what went wrong. These things are a bit of a process
>> of
>> elimination. Sometimes a 'minimal' install is a good idea, then add
>> hardware
>> piece by piece. Vista should recognize most DVD and CD-ROM drives. If
>> need
>> be, if the DVD drive is the problem, get your hands on an inexpensive
>> ordinary DVD ROM drive that is known to work with Vista and use it to
>> install. And so on ..
>>
>> I probably can't help you much further but at what point exactly did the
>> install routine first throw up a problem? Was there an error message,
>> and,
>> if so, what was it exactly?
>>
>> Saucy Lemon
>>
>>
>> "JOE D" <JOE D@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2840B079-3962-4F57-B776-98751D84D756@microsoft.com...
>> >I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to
>> >install
>> >or
>> > run vista.
>> > Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers
>> > for
>> > the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place
>> > before
>> > i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb
>> > drive
>> > set
>> > all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the
>> > dvd
>> > are
>> > gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating
>> > now.what
>> > to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home
>> > premium
>> > for my two systems in my home.
>> > what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet
>> > release
>> > it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money
>> > back,stay
>> > with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but
>> > good.
>> > IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE
>> > PROGRAMS
>> > TO
>> > IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.
>>
>>

Yes a clean install,all new hardwear.


"Saucy Lemon" wrote:

> I figure you are doing a clean install from scratch - is that so?
>
> Saucy Lemon
>
>
> "JOE D" <JOED@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AFF12EC8-EEDC-4F23-A97D-C3B44E973C83@microsoft.com...
> > no errors every thing is brand new,purchased 2/4/07 straight from there
> > boxs
> >
> >
> > "Saucy Lemon" wrote:
> >
> >> Take time to figure what went wrong. These things are a bit of a process
> >> of
> >> elimination. Sometimes a 'minimal' install is a good idea, then add
> >> hardware
> >> piece by piece. Vista should recognize most DVD and CD-ROM drives. If
> >> need
> >> be, if the DVD drive is the problem, get your hands on an inexpensive
> >> ordinary DVD ROM drive that is known to work with Vista and use it to
> >> install. And so on ..
> >>
> >> I probably can't help you much further but at what point exactly did the
> >> install routine first throw up a problem? Was there an error message,
> >> and,
> >> if so, what was it exactly?
> >>
> >> Saucy Lemon
> >>
> >>
> >> "JOE D" <JOE D@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2840B079-3962-4F57-B776-98751D84D756@microsoft.com...
> >> >I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to
> >> >install
> >> >or
> >> > run vista.
> >> > Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers
> >> > for
> >> > the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place
> >> > before
> >> > i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb
> >> > drive
> >> > set
> >> > all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the
> >> > dvd
> >> > are
> >> > gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating
> >> > now.what
> >> > to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home
> >> > premium
> >> > for my two systems in my home.
> >> > what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet
> >> > release
> >> > it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money
> >> > back,stay
> >> > with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but
> >> > good.
> >> > IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE
> >> > PROGRAMS
> >> > TO
> >> > IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.
> >>
> >>
>
>

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:46:01 -0800, JOE D
<JOED@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>"FKS" wrote:
>>
>> "JOE D" <JOE D@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2840B079-3962-4F57-B776-98751D84D756@microsoft.com...
>> >I just built a killer system,with way more requirements needed to install
>> >or
>> > run vista.
>> > Go to install vista, it starts the install, them tells me my drivers for
>> > the device i'm installing with are not there, every thing was in place
>> > before
>> > i started,now this, i start again from formating a brand new 320gb drive
>> > set
>> > all the bios and now i can't run vista because of the drivers for the dvd
>> > are
>> > gone,can't install drivers eather because i don't have an operating
>> > now.what
>> > to do? Talk about money wasted, i purchased vista- ultimate and home
>> > premium
>> > for my two systems in my home.
>> > what microsoft makes a product that they can't even work, but yet release
>> > it to us the public, My opin it sucks and wish i could get my money
>> > back,stay
>> > with xp or run win98se this is the best thing they ever made, old but
>> > good.
>> > IDEA- SHOULD GO TO MICROSOFT WITH A BIG ROCK TIE THE TWO CRAPIE PROGRAMS
>> > TO
>> > IT AND THROW IT THROUGH THERE WINDOW. THANKS FOR NOTHING.
>>
>> That's the price you pay for being an early adopter. You have to blame only
>> yourself. How many 1st generation products are trouble-free? Not many.
>> That's especially true for software. When was the last time that a software
>> program ran perfectly without a single patch whatsoever?
>>
>>
>>
>>Your right,but they've been working on this for 3-4 years,+ I should have
>listen to myself and not the computer jerk where i purchased all the new hard
>wear, but it's still good to vent, and worn others not to make my mistake.

In reality, it's more like 2-2 1/2, thanks to the "reset".