Vista - If I buy the VISTA upgrade instead of the full version....

"RR2" <rr2@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
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>> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
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>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
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>>>> > jimmy fallon wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Well that sucks, cuz we all know a clean install is MUCH
>>>> > > preferred. Sorry MS, I love you guys but FU on this one. I
>>>> > > bought the GD XP disc so i should be entitiled to a GD clean
>>>> > > install! That's some F-ing nerve man. jf
>>>> > >
>>>> > AFAIK when you do any Vista install, be it Retail/OEM/Upgrade the
>>>> > Vista software is laid-down on a newly-formatted hard drive as a
>>>> > complete Vista image, without carrying anything over from whatever
>>>> > was on that hard drive prior to the Vista install... anything which
>>>> > Vista decides should be retained is copied into a seperate folder
>>>> > on the new installation.
>>>> >
>>>> > Others may correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>> >
>>>> > That is the same as a clean install, is it not?
>>>>
>>>> You are correct, Paul.
>>>>
>>>> It's just hard from some of us old dogs to grasp/accept this.
>>>>
>>>> The install procedure used in Vista is vastly different than in
>>>> previous OS installs, fundamentally different. And, it is hard for
>>>> many us to get used to that. We've been through the old way
>>>> and know from experience, that a "clean install" is always best.
>>>> But, now, as far as the actual OS install is concerned, there is
>>>> not any old code left behind. The problems that do arise, can
>>>> be from the programs that are imported back into that "clean" install
>>>> when doing an in place upgrade.
>>>>
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Bet I'm older than you are... my first real PC was a state-of-the-art
>>> 8086 DOS only with a 32Mb hard drive, 2 x 5 1/4" floppies and a
>>> monochrome display. I bought it new and I was then 39.
>>
>> You've got me beat by a few years... I've reached the ripe old age of 38.
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>
> I have you all beat. My first computer was an abacus. I was a beta
> tester.
>
>

And you wonder why Vista won't work? LOL

(a joke)

Jeff

Paul-B wrote:
> MICHAEL wrote:
>
>> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
>> news:52rtv0F1pmsmfU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> jimmy fallon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well that sucks, cuz we all know a clean install is MUCH
>>>> preferred. Sorry MS, I love you guys but FU on this one. I
>>>> bought the GD XP disc so i should be entitiled to a GD clean
>>>> install! That's some F-ing nerve man. jf
>>>>
>>> AFAIK when you do any Vista install, be it Retail/OEM/Upgrade the
>>> Vista software is laid-down on a newly-formatted hard drive as a
>>> complete Vista image, without carrying anything over from whatever
>>> was on that hard drive prior to the Vista install... anything which
>>> Vista decides should be retained is copied into a seperate folder
>>> on the new installation.
>>>
>>> Others may correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> That is the same as a clean install, is it not?
>> You are correct, Paul.
>>
>> It's just hard from some of us old dogs to grasp/accept this.
>>
>> The install procedure used in Vista is vastly different than in
>> previous OS installs, fundamentally different. And, it is hard for
>> many us to get used to that. We've been through the old way
>> and know from experience, that a "clean install" is always best.
>> But, now, as far as the actual OS install is concerned, there is
>> not any old code left behind. The problems that do arise, can
>> be from the programs that are imported back into that "clean" install
>> when doing an in place upgrade.
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> Bet I'm older than you are... my first real PC was a state-of-the-art
> 8086 DOS only with a 32Mb hard drive, 2 x 5 1/4" floppies and a
> monochrome display. I bought it new and I was then 39.
>

When was that?

Alias

Alias wrote:

> Paul-B wrote:
> > MICHAEL wrote:
> >
> >>"Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
> > > news:52rtv0F1pmsmfU1@mid.individual.net...
> > > > jimmy fallon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well that sucks, cuz we all know a clean install is MUCH
> > > > > preferred. Sorry MS, I love you guys but FU on this one. I
> > > > > bought the GD XP disc so i should be entitiled to a GD clean
> > > > > install! That's some F-ing nerve man. jf
> > > > >
> > > > AFAIK when you do any Vista install, be it Retail/OEM/Upgrade
> > > > the Vista software is laid-down on a newly-formatted hard drive
> > > > as a complete Vista image, without carrying anything over from
> > > > whatever was on that hard drive prior to the Vista install...
> > > > anything which Vista decides should be retained is copied into
> > > > a seperate folder on the new installation.
> > > >
> > > > Others may correct me if I'm wrong.
> > > >
> > > > That is the same as a clean install, is it not?
> > > You are correct, Paul.
> > >
> > > It's just hard from some of us old dogs to grasp/accept this.
> > >
> > > The install procedure used in Vista is vastly different than in
> > > previous OS installs, fundamentally different. And, it is hard
> > > for many us to get used to that. We've been through the old way
> > > and know from experience, that a "clean install" is always best.
> > > But, now, as far as the actual OS install is concerned, there is
> > > not any old code left behind. The problems that do arise, can
> > > be from the programs that are imported back into that "clean"
> > > install when doing an in place upgrade.
> > >
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Bet I'm older than you are... my first real PC was a
> > state-of-the-art 8086 DOS only with a 32Mb hard drive, 2 x 5 1/4"
> > floppies and a monochrome display. I bought it new and I was then
> > 39.
> >
>
> When was that?
>
> Alias

LOL!

1984, actually, in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Every piece of software was
pirated (you couldn't buy original software there) but them were the
days when pirating software meant just copying the disks.

--
Paul-B

Paul-B wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Paul-B wrote:
>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Paul-B" <paul@rasf1.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:52rtv0F1pmsmfU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> jimmy fallon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well that sucks, cuz we all know a clean install is MUCH
>>>>>> preferred. Sorry MS, I love you guys but FU on this one. I
>>>>>> bought the GD XP disc so i should be entitiled to a GD clean
>>>>>> install! That's some F-ing nerve man. jf
>>>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK when you do any Vista install, be it Retail/OEM/Upgrade
>>>>> the Vista software is laid-down on a newly-formatted hard drive
>>>>> as a complete Vista image, without carrying anything over from
>>>>> whatever was on that hard drive prior to the Vista install...
>>>>> anything which Vista decides should be retained is copied into
>>>>> a seperate folder on the new installation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Others may correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is the same as a clean install, is it not?
>>>> You are correct, Paul.
>>>>
>>>> It's just hard from some of us old dogs to grasp/accept this.
>>>>
>>>> The install procedure used in Vista is vastly different than in
>>>> previous OS installs, fundamentally different. And, it is hard
>>>> for many us to get used to that. We've been through the old way
>>>> and know from experience, that a "clean install" is always best.
>>>> But, now, as far as the actual OS install is concerned, there is
>>>> not any old code left behind. The problems that do arise, can
>>>> be from the programs that are imported back into that "clean"
>>>> install when doing an in place upgrade.
>>>>
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Bet I'm older than you are... my first real PC was a
>>> state-of-the-art 8086 DOS only with a 32Mb hard drive, 2 x 5 1/4"
>>> floppies and a monochrome display. I bought it new and I was then
>>> 39.
>>>
>> When was that?
>>
>> Alias
>
> LOL!
>
> 1984, actually, in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Every piece of software was
> pirated (you couldn't buy original software there) but them were the
> days when pirating software meant just copying the disks.
>

Well, I am a year older than you are (60). I bought the first Mac in 84,
the one with an 128K hard drive. Cost me $5000 and came with an external
floppy/diskette and an image writer printer. I sold it in Venezuela for
$6000.

Alias