Vista - Microsoft's own antivirus fails to secure Vista

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Microsoft's own antivirus software, Live OneCare, is unable to fully
protect Vista users against viruses, and one of security firm McAfee's
antivirus software packages also fails to protect users, according to
independent research released Friday.

Security news Web site Virus Bulletin, backed by a team of security
researchers based in Oxfordshire, U.K., tested 15 antivirus software
packages used by businesses and designed specifically for Vista,
Microsoft's newest operating system. The packages were released to
businesses two months ago.

The researchers tested whether each of the antivirus products would stop
a set of viruses known to be currently circulating. In order to be
awarded a pass, the software had to detect all the viruses with no false
positives.

But out of the 15, four failed: Microsoft Live OneCare 1.5; McAfee
VirusScan Enterprise version 8.1i; G DATA AntiVirusKit 2007 v17.0.6353;
and Norman VirusControl v5.90. The other 11, including software from CA,
Fortinet, F-Secure, Kaspersky, Sophos and Symantec, detected all the
viruses.

"With the number of delays that we've seen in Vista's release, there's
no excuse for security vendors not to have got their products right by
now," said John Hawes, technical consultant at Virus Bulletin. "In these
days of hourly updates, it's always a surprise and a disappointment to
see major products missing them (viruses). Vista cannot fend off today's
malware without help from security products. It certainly looks like
people upgrading to the new platform are going to need additional
security solutions."

Joe Telafici, vice president of operations for McAfee's Avert Labs, told
ZDNet UK that, in his opinion, Virus Bulletin had not used its latest
antivirus updates, causing the failure. He said McAfee would issue
further results with the updated software.

Microsoft pledged to improve Live OneCare. "We are looking closely at
the methodology and results of the test to ensure that Windows Live
OneCare performs better in future tests and, most importantly, as part
of our ongoing work to continually enhance Windows Live OneCare," a
company representative told ZDNet UK.

On the subject of Vista, the Microsoft representative added: "It's
important to remember that no software is 100 percent secure. Microsoft
is working to keep the number of security vulnerabilities that ship in
our products to a minimum, through our Security Development Lifecycle
process, and that work is paying off. The release of Windows Vista is
the first Microsoft operating system to use the Security Development
Lifecycle from start to finish and was tested more, prior to shipping,
than any previous version of Windows."

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If I want regular news reports, I'll sign for an RSS feed.

Saucy Lemon

Saucy Lemon wrote:
> If I want regular news reports, I'll sign for an RSS feed.
>
> Saucy Lemon

That sounds like a plan because I don't provide regular news reports.

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You couldn't get that organized.

Saucy Lemon


"Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message news:eqdej3$ggf$1@aioe.org...
> Saucy Lemon wrote:
>> If I want regular news reports, I'll sign for an RSS feed.
>>
>> Saucy Lemon
>
> That sounds like a plan because I don't provide regular news reports.
>

if you bothered to read the stories about this,
THEY FAILED TO PERFORM AN UPDATE prior to testing.



mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com



"Nina DiBoy" <nin@di.boy> wrote in message news:eqd6t0$usf$1@aioe.org...
http://news.com.com/Microsofts+own+a...ml?tag=newsmap

Microsoft's own antivirus software, Live OneCare, is unable to fully
protect Vista users against viruses, and one of security firm McAfee's
antivirus software packages also fails to protect users, according to
independent research released Friday.

Security news Web site Virus Bulletin, backed by a team of security
researchers based in Oxfordshire, U.K., tested 15 antivirus software
packages used by businesses and designed specifically for Vista,
Microsoft's newest operating system. The packages were released to
businesses two months ago.

The researchers tested whether each of the antivirus products would stop
a set of viruses known to be currently circulating. In order to be
awarded a pass, the software had to detect all the viruses with no false
positives.

But out of the 15, four failed: Microsoft Live OneCare 1.5; McAfee
VirusScan Enterprise version 8.1i; G DATA AntiVirusKit 2007 v17.0.6353;
and Norman VirusControl v5.90. The other 11, including software from CA,
Fortinet, F-Secure, Kaspersky, Sophos and Symantec, detected all the
viruses.

"With the number of delays that we've seen in Vista's release, there's
no excuse for security vendors not to have got their products right by
now," said John Hawes, technical consultant at Virus Bulletin. "In these
days of hourly updates, it's always a surprise and a disappointment to
see major products missing them (viruses). Vista cannot fend off today's
malware without help from security products. It certainly looks like
people upgrading to the new platform are going to need additional
security solutions."

Joe Telafici, vice president of operations for McAfee's Avert Labs, told
ZDNet UK that, in his opinion, Virus Bulletin had not used its latest
antivirus updates, causing the failure. He said McAfee would issue
further results with the updated software.

Microsoft pledged to improve Live OneCare. "We are looking closely at
the methodology and results of the test to ensure that Windows Live
OneCare performs better in future tests and, most importantly, as part
of our ongoing work to continually enhance Windows Live OneCare," a
company representative told ZDNet UK.

On the subject of Vista, the Microsoft representative added: "It's
important to remember that no software is 100 percent secure. Microsoft
is working to keep the number of security vulnerabilities that ship in
our products to a minimum, through our Security Development Lifecycle
process, and that work is paying off. The release of Windows Vista is
the first Microsoft operating system to use the Security Development
Lifecycle from start to finish and was tested more, prior to shipping,
than any previous version of Windows."

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Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"Nope. Just CLUELESS ****S LIKE YOU too stupid to work it out. Thank
the bittorent brigade."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

Nina DiBoy,

No reference toward you but did the columnist’s article that you shared
appear in; “ Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks� ?

The article shared by you, when fully read was a most interesting read,
although, you only shared one side from the whole article while neglecting
(likely accidental) sharing several very material important aspects.
Including, misrepresenting supposedly statements from a Microsoft
representative, regarding software; not an OS as Windows Vista with a
Lifecycle from start to finish.

1. The article source (Virus Bulletin) expressly made it very clear that any
type of malware and/or virus did *not* successful penetrate Windows Vista’s
incredibly secure OS.
2. When one reads the whole article easily the article’s true intent is
clearly revealed.
3. The folks at Virus Bulletin want you to purchase a subscription to their
monthly bulletin for $175.00 US annually just for participating with their
Virus Bulletin publication, and their product offerings.
4. Another secondary intent from the above article (Virus Bulletin) desires
for you purchasing one of their Site offered third party malware and/or a/v
applications; protecting self-pronouns is extremely important for some
people, especially when it comes to money.
5. Question: Do you understand why it was so important for the above
columnist’s article making a one- sided written report condemning others for
the sole purpose of selling their product offerings?
6. Additionally, never did the above columnist’s article report that Vista’s
OS was harmed. Instead, just the opposite; the columnist’s article reported
frequently third party applications create troubles for Vista (yes, I’m aware
of OneCare and their designers, are you?).
7. As previously shared, the supposedly suspect “tested� a/v apps were not
updated with current definitions.
8. Commonly, many third party malware and a/v applications are intentionally
designed for* falsely* reporting (during first run) that many malware items
are present within ones OS, just for playing with you mind while attempting
persuading one to purchase that third party’s offerings.
9. Just a pretext game for demonstrating the pseudo ability for many third
party a/v and malware vendors presenting a counterfeit show and tell
attempting promoting and selling their applications.
10. All one has to do for learning truth, ask Ms. Dewey at:
http://www.msdewey.com/

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"Nina DiBoy" wrote:

> http://news.com.com/Microsofts+own+a...ml?tag=newsmap
>
> Microsoft's own antivirus software, Live OneCare, is unable to fully
> protect Vista users against viruses, and one of security firm McAfee's
> antivirus software packages also fails to protect users, according to
> independent research released Friday.
>
> Security news Web site Virus Bulletin, backed by a team of security
> researchers based in Oxfordshire, U.K., tested 15 antivirus software
> packages used by businesses and designed specifically for Vista,
> Microsoft's newest operating system. The packages were released to
> businesses two months ago.
>
> The researchers tested whether each of the antivirus products would stop
> a set of viruses known to be currently circulating. In order to be
> awarded a pass, the software had to detect all the viruses with no false
> positives.
>
> But out of the 15, four failed: Microsoft Live OneCare 1.5; McAfee
> VirusScan Enterprise version 8.1i; G DATA AntiVirusKit 2007 v17.0.6353;
> and Norman VirusControl v5.90. The other 11, including software from CA,
> Fortinet, F-Secure, Kaspersky, Sophos and Symantec, detected all the
> viruses.
>
> "With the number of delays that we've seen in Vista's release, there's
> no excuse for security vendors not to have got their products right by
> now," said John Hawes, technical consultant at Virus Bulletin. "In these
> days of hourly updates, it's always a surprise and a disappointment to
> see major products missing them (viruses). Vista cannot fend off today's
> malware without help from security products. It certainly looks like
> people upgrading to the new platform are going to need additional
> security solutions."
>
> Joe Telafici, vice president of operations for McAfee's Avert Labs, told
> ZDNet UK that, in his opinion, Virus Bulletin had not used its latest
> antivirus updates, causing the failure. He said McAfee would issue
> further results with the updated software.
>
> Microsoft pledged to improve Live OneCare. "We are looking closely at
> the methodology and results of the test to ensure that Windows Live
> OneCare performs better in future tests and, most importantly, as part
> of our ongoing work to continually enhance Windows Live OneCare," a
> company representative told ZDNet UK.
>
> On the subject of Vista, the Microsoft representative added: "It's
> important to remember that no software is 100 percent secure. Microsoft
> is working to keep the number of security vulnerabilities that ship in
> our products to a minimum, through our Security Development Lifecycle
> process, and that work is paying off. The release of Windows Vista is
> the first Microsoft operating system to use the Security Development
> Lifecycle from start to finish and was tested more, prior to shipping,
> than any previous version of Windows."
>
> --
> Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
> http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html
>
> Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
> "Nope. Just CLUELESS ****S LIKE YOU too stupid to work it out. Thank
> the bittorent brigade."
>
> "Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
> - T. S. Eliot
>

Jonathan Schwartz 2 wrote:
> Nina DiBoy,
>
> No reference toward you but did the columnist’s article that you shared
> appear in; “ Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks� ?

Why don't you check for yourself? I'm not your secretary.

>
> The article shared by you, when fully read was a most interesting read,
> although, you only shared one side from the whole article while neglecting
> (likely accidental) sharing several very material important aspects.
> Including, misrepresenting supposedly statements from a Microsoft
> representative, regarding software; not an OS as Windows Vista with a
> Lifecycle from start to finish.
>
> 1. The article source (Virus Bulletin) expressly made it very clear that any
> type of malware and/or virus did *not* successful penetrate Windows Vista’s
> incredibly secure OS.

Right, this article was not about the security of Vista. This article
was about how secure this AV software was on Vista.

> 2. When one reads the whole article easily the article’s true intent is
> clearly revealed.
> 3. The folks at Virus Bulletin want you to purchase a subscription to their
> monthly bulletin for $175.00 US annually just for participating with their
> Virus Bulletin publication, and their product offerings.
> 4. Another secondary intent from the above article (Virus Bulletin) desires
> for you purchasing one of their Site offered third party malware and/or a/v
> applications; protecting self-pronouns is extremely important for some
> people, especially when it comes to money.
> 5. Question: Do you understand why it was so important for the above
> columnist’s article making a one- sided written report condemning others for
> the sole purpose of selling their product offerings?
> 6. Additionally, never did the above columnist’s article report that Vista’s
> OS was harmed. Instead, just the opposite; the columnist’s article reported
> frequently third party applications create troubles for Vista (yes, I’m aware
> of OneCare and their designers, are you?).
> 7. As previously shared, the supposedly suspect “tested� a/v apps were not
> updated with current definitions.
> 8. Commonly, many third party malware and a/v applications are intentionally
> designed for* falsely* reporting (during first run) that many malware items
> are present within ones OS, just for playing with you mind while attempting
> persuading one to purchase that third party’s offerings.
> 9. Just a pretext game for demonstrating the pseudo ability for many third
> party a/v and malware vendors presenting a counterfeit show and tell
> attempting promoting and selling their applications.
> 10. All one has to do for learning truth, ask Ms. Dewey at:
> http://www.msdewey.com/
>

But their not the only ones who knows that OneCare sucks!
http://www.computerworld.com/action/...c=it_blogwatch

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- T. S. Eliot