Vista - networking problem Vista & XP

11-28-2007

I am joining the thread as I am having similar problems but not quite the
same. I have two Vista PCs plus one XP PC and two XP laptops on the network.
In networks I can see all the computers from all the other computers and from
the Vista machines I can access all the files as required on the XP machines
but when trying to access a file (eg C) on a vista machine from any of the
others including the other Vista machine I get a message box " not accessible
you may not have permission etc. Access is denied"
I have tried everything with sharing and firewalls. can anyone help?
Regards,
Terry

11-28-2007

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:25:01 -0800, Terry
<Terry@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>I have tried everything with sharing and firewalls. can anyone help?

Try Network Magic. It worked for me. There's a free trial.

11-29-2007

"Thank you Paul
Network Magic is just that. My network now works fine.
Regards, Terry

02-05-2008

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:08:28 -0800, Paul Knudsen
<pknudsen@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:25:01 -0800, Terry
><Terry@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

>>I have tried everything with sharing and firewalls. can anyone help?

>
>Try Network Magic. It worked for me. There's a free trial.

Bless you Paul!! I struggled for three days trying everything to get
my Vista and XP machines to see each other. I finally found this
newsgroup and the above that you posted way back in Nov. Network
Magic found that WICS had to be disabled in Vista and offered to do
so. It then walked me through file & printer sharing, and had many
other feature that I didn't need.

To sum it all up, your suggestion worked. The owner of our local
computer store was even impressed when I told him about disabling
WICS, because he had told me this morning it was ALMOST impossible to
get Vista & XP to work together! Thanks again! Hope this helps
anyone else that's having trouble.
--

Quote:

>>>>>>>>>> jetjock <<<<<<<<<<

02-10-2008

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:19:51 -0600, jetjock <jetjock@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:08:28 -0800, Paul Knudsen
><pknudsen@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

>>
>>Try Network Magic. It worked for me. There's a free trial.

>
>Bless you Paul!! I struggled for three days trying everything to get
>my Vista and XP machines to see each other. I finally found this
>newsgroup and the above that you posted way back in Nov. Network
>Magic found that WICS had to be disabled in Vista and offered to do
>so. It then walked me through file & printer sharing, and had many
>other feature that I didn't need.
>
>To sum it all up, your suggestion worked. The owner of our local
>computer store was even impressed when I told him about disabling
>WICS, because he had told me this morning it was ALMOST impossible to
>get Vista & XP to work together! Thanks again! Hope this helps
>anyone else that's having trouble.

Glad to have been of help. Hope this will be of benefit to others as
well. Glad you flagged this so I'd see it.

For the record: I have NO connection with NM's publisher.

02-11-2008

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:34:43 -0800, Paul Knudsen
<pknudsen@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:19:51 -0600, jetjock <jetjock@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

>>On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:08:28 -0800, Paul Knudsen
>><pknudsen@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>

>

Quote:

>>>
>>>Try Network Magic. It worked for me. There's a free trial.

>>
>>Bless you Paul!! I struggled for three days trying everything to get
>>my Vista and XP machines to see each other. I finally found this
>>newsgroup and the above that you posted way back in Nov. Network
>>Magic found that WICS had to be disabled in Vista and offered to do
>>so. It then walked me through file & printer sharing, and had many
>>other feature that I didn't need.
>>
>>To sum it all up, your suggestion worked. The owner of our local
>>computer store was even impressed when I told him about disabling
>>WICS, because he had told me this morning it was ALMOST impossible to
>>get Vista & XP to work together! Thanks again! Hope this helps
>>anyone else that's having trouble.

>
>Glad to have been of help. Hope this will be of benefit to others as
>well. Glad you flagged this so I'd see it.

Something EVERYBODY used to do when usenet was still being policed, at
least a little, by the "Inner Circle". I learned a lot from those
guys! Too bad everyone didn't. :-)

Quote:

>
>For the record: I have NO connection with NM's publisher.

--

Quote:

>>>>>>>>>> jetjock <<<<<<<<<<

04-11-2009

Thank You! Thank You!

Why in the world Microsoft has started being backwards in their programming
is beyond me.
--
Life is an adventure with God leading.

"Eric Haines" wrote:

Quote:

> I found this elsewhere on the forums, but it's worth posting everywhere - it
> worked great for me. I've also modified it a bit to match my Home Premium
> version of Vista. It is from Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
> (http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders):
>
> You may need to enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP for TCP/IP V4 in the Network
> Connection's properties:
>
> 1. Click on Start in the lower left corner, then select Network
> 2. click Network and Sharing Center
> 3. Look at Sharing and Discovery, below on the right
> 4. make sure that Network Discovery is On (note - in a Windows Domain, this
> may need to be enabled by an administrator using a GPO)
> 5. make sure that File Sharing is On
> 6. make sure that Public folder sharing is Off
> 7. if you have a printer locally installed that you want other computers to
> use, make sure Printer Sharing is On
> 8. click Manage network connections (left pane)
> 9. right click the Local Area Connection (or whatever network connection is
> in use - e.g. a wireless connection)
> 10. select Properties
> 11. click Continue in the User Account Control prompt (or supply
> Administrative username and password)
> 12. select Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4)
> 13. click Properties
> 14. click Advanced...
> 14. select the WINS tab
> 15. select the Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP radio button
> 16. click OK; click OK; click Close - this change will take affect
> immediately - no need to logoff or restart
>
> Also, as stated in other posts in this thread and others - make sure you
> don't have a third party firewall blocking the ports or programs needed.

04-11-2009

I had to come back and search for more information. These changes worked,
for about 30 minutes. Then my STUPID Vista did some kind of reset and locked
itself out of the network completely.

Are there any other suggestions? I do have the Vista Ultimate, if that
makes any difference.

Why is it so hard to do something so simple as a Home Network?
--
Life is an adventure with God leading.

"Eric Haines" wrote:

Quote:

> I found this elsewhere on the forums, but it's worth posting everywhere - it
> worked great for me. I've also modified it a bit to match my Home Premium
> version of Vista. It is from Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
> (http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders):
>
> You may need to enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP for TCP/IP V4 in the Network
> Connection's properties:
>
> 1. Click on Start in the lower left corner, then select Network
> 2. click Network and Sharing Center
> 3. Look at Sharing and Discovery, below on the right
> 4. make sure that Network Discovery is On (note - in a Windows Domain, this
> may need to be enabled by an administrator using a GPO)
> 5. make sure that File Sharing is On
> 6. make sure that Public folder sharing is Off
> 7. if you have a printer locally installed that you want other computers to
> use, make sure Printer Sharing is On
> 8. click Manage network connections (left pane)
> 9. right click the Local Area Connection (or whatever network connection is
> in use - e.g. a wireless connection)
> 10. select Properties
> 11. click Continue in the User Account Control prompt (or supply
> Administrative username and password)
> 12. select Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4)
> 13. click Properties
> 14. click Advanced...
> 14. select the WINS tab
> 15. select the Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP radio button
> 16. click OK; click OK; click Close - this change will take affect
> immediately - no need to logoff or restart
>
> Also, as stated in other posts in this thread and others - make sure you
> don't have a third party firewall blocking the ports or programs needed.

11-28-2007	#21 (permalink)
Terry n/a posts	RE: networking problem Vista & XP I am joining the thread as I am having similar problems but not quite the same. I have two Vista PCs plus one XP PC and two XP laptops on the network. In networks I can see all the computers from all the other computers and from the Vista machines I can access all the files as required on the XP machines but when trying to access a file (eg C) on a vista machine from any of the others including the other Vista machine I get a message box " not accessible you may not have permission etc. Access is denied" I have tried everything with sharing and firewalls. can anyone help? Regards, Terry
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11-28-2007	#22 (permalink)
Paul Knudsen n/a posts	Re: networking problem Vista & XP On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:25:01 -0800, Terry <Terry@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >I have tried everything with sharing and firewalls. can anyone help? Try Network Magic. It worked for me. There's a free trial.
My System Specs

11-29-2007	#23 (permalink)
Terry n/a posts	Re: networking problem Vista & XP "Thank you Paul Network Magic is just that. My network now works fine. Regards, Terry
My System Specs

02-05-2008	#24 (permalink)
jetjock n/a posts	ATTN: Paul Knudsen....Re: networking problem Vista & XP On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:08:28 -0800, Paul Knudsen <pknudsen@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:25:01 -0800, Terry ><Terry@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>I have tried everything with sharing and firewalls. can anyone help? > >Try Network Magic. It worked for me. There's a free trial. Bless you Paul!! I struggled for three days trying everything to get my Vista and XP machines to see each other. I finally found this newsgroup and the above that you posted way back in Nov. Network Magic found that WICS had to be disabled in Vista and offered to do so. It then walked me through file & printer sharing, and had many other feature that I didn't need. To sum it all up, your suggestion worked. The owner of our local computer store was even impressed when I told him about disabling WICS, because he had told me this morning it was ALMOST impossible to get Vista & XP to work together! Thanks again! Hope this helps anyone else that's having trouble. -- Quote: Quote: Quote: >>>>>>>>>> jetjock <<<<<<<<<<
My System Specs

02-10-2008	#25 (permalink)
Paul Knudsen n/a posts	Re: ATTN: Paul Knudsen....Re: networking problem Vista & XP On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:19:51 -0600, jetjock <jetjock@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:08:28 -0800, Paul Knudsen ><pknudsen@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: Quote: >> >>Try Network Magic. It worked for me. There's a free trial. > >Bless you Paul!! I struggled for three days trying everything to get >my Vista and XP machines to see each other. I finally found this >newsgroup and the above that you posted way back in Nov. Network >Magic found that WICS had to be disabled in Vista and offered to do >so. It then walked me through file & printer sharing, and had many >other feature that I didn't need. > >To sum it all up, your suggestion worked. The owner of our local >computer store was even impressed when I told him about disabling >WICS, because he had told me this morning it was ALMOST impossible to >get Vista & XP to work together! Thanks again! Hope this helps >anyone else that's having trouble. Glad to have been of help. Hope this will be of benefit to others as well. Glad you flagged this so I'd see it. For the record: I have NO connection with NM's publisher.
My System Specs

02-11-2008	#26 (permalink)
jetjock n/a posts	Re: ATTN: Paul Knudsen....Re: networking problem Vista & XP On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:34:43 -0800, Paul Knudsen <pknudsen@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:19:51 -0600, jetjock <jetjock@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:08:28 -0800, Paul Knudsen >><pknudsen@xxxxxx> wrote: >> > Quote: Quote: >>> >>>Try Network Magic. It worked for me. There's a free trial. >> >>Bless you Paul!! I struggled for three days trying everything to get >>my Vista and XP machines to see each other. I finally found this >>newsgroup and the above that you posted way back in Nov. Network >>Magic found that WICS had to be disabled in Vista and offered to do >>so. It then walked me through file & printer sharing, and had many >>other feature that I didn't need. >> >>To sum it all up, your suggestion worked. The owner of our local >>computer store was even impressed when I told him about disabling >>WICS, because he had told me this morning it was ALMOST impossible to >>get Vista & XP to work together! Thanks again! Hope this helps >>anyone else that's having trouble. > >Glad to have been of help. Hope this will be of benefit to others as >well. Glad you flagged this so I'd see it. Something EVERYBODY used to do when usenet was still being policed, at least a little, by the "Inner Circle". I learned a lot from those guys! Too bad everyone didn't. :-) Quote: > >For the record: I have NO connection with NM's publisher. -- Quote: Quote: Quote: >>>>>>>>>> jetjock <<<<<<<<<<
My System Specs

04-11-2009	#27 (permalink)
Ande n/a posts	RE: networking problem Vista & XP Thank You! Thank You! Why in the world Microsoft has started being backwards in their programming is beyond me. -- Life is an adventure with God leading. "Eric Haines" wrote: Quote: > I found this elsewhere on the forums, but it's worth posting everywhere - it > worked great for me. I've also modified it a bit to match my Home Premium > version of Vista. It is from Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing > (http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders): > > You may need to enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP for TCP/IP V4 in the Network > Connection's properties: > > 1. Click on Start in the lower left corner, then select Network > 2. click Network and Sharing Center > 3. Look at Sharing and Discovery, below on the right > 4. make sure that Network Discovery is On (note - in a Windows Domain, this > may need to be enabled by an administrator using a GPO) > 5. make sure that File Sharing is On > 6. make sure that Public folder sharing is Off > 7. if you have a printer locally installed that you want other computers to > use, make sure Printer Sharing is On > 8. click Manage network connections (left pane) > 9. right click the Local Area Connection (or whatever network connection is > in use - e.g. a wireless connection) > 10. select Properties > 11. click Continue in the User Account Control prompt (or supply > Administrative username and password) > 12. select Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) > 13. click Properties > 14. click Advanced... > 14. select the WINS tab > 15. select the Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP radio button > 16. click OK; click OK; click Close - this change will take affect > immediately - no need to logoff or restart > > Also, as stated in other posts in this thread and others - make sure you > don't have a third party firewall blocking the ports or programs needed.
My System Specs

04-11-2009	#28 (permalink)
Ande n/a posts	RE: networking problem Vista & XP I had to come back and search for more information. These changes worked, for about 30 minutes. Then my STUPID Vista did some kind of reset and locked itself out of the network completely. Are there any other suggestions? I do have the Vista Ultimate, if that makes any difference. Why is it so hard to do something so simple as a Home Network? -- Life is an adventure with God leading. "Eric Haines" wrote: Quote: > I found this elsewhere on the forums, but it's worth posting everywhere - it > worked great for me. I've also modified it a bit to match my Home Premium > version of Vista. It is from Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing > (http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders): > > You may need to enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP for TCP/IP V4 in the Network > Connection's properties: > > 1. Click on Start in the lower left corner, then select Network > 2. click Network and Sharing Center > 3. Look at Sharing and Discovery, below on the right > 4. make sure that Network Discovery is On (note - in a Windows Domain, this > may need to be enabled by an administrator using a GPO) > 5. make sure that File Sharing is On > 6. make sure that Public folder sharing is Off > 7. if you have a printer locally installed that you want other computers to > use, make sure Printer Sharing is On > 8. click Manage network connections (left pane) > 9. right click the Local Area Connection (or whatever network connection is > in use - e.g. a wireless connection) > 10. select Properties > 11. click Continue in the User Account Control prompt (or supply > Administrative username and password) > 12. select Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) > 13. click Properties > 14. click Advanced... > 14. select the WINS tab > 15. select the Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP radio button > 16. click OK; click OK; click Close - this change will take affect > immediately - no need to logoff or restart > > Also, as stated in other posts in this thread and others - make sure you > don't have a third party firewall blocking the ports or programs needed.
My System Specs

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