Vista - Product ID problems

OEM versions of Windows are not upgrade, they are full versions, just like
you would buy the FPP in a store. Just that Upgrades are not allowed from
prior version of Windows.
--
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"Quiztar" <johnluke1169@yahoo.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
news:482E4919-6F13-46A0-829B-6EB6215D0920@microsoft.com...
> You would laugh however I have seen OEM Upgrade CD's for sale on the
> market
> from legitimate online retailers who shall remain nameless.
>
> "Synapse Syndrome" wrote:
>
>> "Jonathan Schwartz 2" <JonathanSchwartz2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in
>> message news4A6DB1F-F640-4313-B182-D109D9770214@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> > Are you certain that you do not have retail Vista Upgrade OEM?
>>
>>
>> LOL.
>>
>> ss.
>>
>>

<< . . . Upgrades are not allowed from prior version of Windows. . . .

Come again? They're not?


"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:etTCEDZTHHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> OEM versions of Windows are not upgrade, they are full versions, just like
> you would buy the FPP in a store. Just that Upgrades are not allowed from
> prior version of Windows.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Quiztar" <johnluke1169@yahoo.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
> news:482E4919-6F13-46A0-829B-6EB6215D0920@microsoft.com...
>> You would laugh however I have seen OEM Upgrade CD's for sale on the
>> market
>> from legitimate online retailers who shall remain nameless.
>>
>> "Synapse Syndrome" wrote:
>>
>>> "Jonathan Schwartz 2" <JonathanSchwartz2@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> wrote in
>>> message news4A6DB1F-F640-4313-B182-D109D9770214@microsoft.com...
>>> >
>>> > Are you certain that you do not have retail Vista Upgrade OEM?
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL.
>>>
>>> ss.
>>>
>>>
>
>

Put it this way, you can use Windows Vista x86 Home Basic (retail) to
upgrade from Windows XP Home (retail or OEM)

If you purchased Windows Vista x86 Home Basic (OEM), you can't do an upgrade
with it from the same Windows XP Home (retail or OEM), because of the
targetted channel licensing and distribution, which is only with a new PC.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Bill Condie" <billcondie@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> << . . . Upgrades are not allowed from prior version of Windows. . . .
>
> Come again? They're not?
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:etTCEDZTHHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> OEM versions of Windows are not upgrade, they are full versions, just
>> like you would buy the FPP in a store. Just that Upgrades are not allowed
>> from prior version of Windows.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "Quiztar" <johnluke1169@yahoo.com.(donotspam)> wrote in message
>> news:482E4919-6F13-46A0-829B-6EB6215D0920@microsoft.com...
>>> You would laugh however I have seen OEM Upgrade CD's for sale on the
>>> market
>>> from legitimate online retailers who shall remain nameless.
>>>
>>> "Synapse Syndrome" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jonathan Schwartz 2" <JonathanSchwartz2@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>>> wrote in
>>>> message news4A6DB1F-F640-4313-B182-D109D9770214@microsoft.com...
>>>> >
>>>> > Are you certain that you do not have retail Vista Upgrade OEM?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL.
>>>>
>>>> ss.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

Just purchased a second license using the Family Discount and sure
enough, Microsoft liked my Product Key. I am sure it is a PID issue with
their database and website.

Site

Mark wrote:
> I paid $259 for the Ultimate Upgrade and bought it from Staples.
> Software came in that plastic container sealed like mad with 2 CDs (64
> bit and 32 bit)and my software passes all the WGA verification yoiu can
> throw at it.
>
> I am right and Microsoft is wrong or should I say their lame 3rd world
> country support is wrong and just Microsoft's PID database is broken.
>
> I think it maybe for the business versions and 64 bit versions this
> problem exists.
>
> I sure would like to speak with someone at Microsoft in Washington about
> this because this brings back memories of Win956,98 and Millennium which
> all had Key and PID issues that took months for Microsoft to admit
>
> Mark
>
>
> Jonathan Schwartz 2 wrote:
>> Mark,
>>
>> Likely you and Microsoft are each correct...
>> Perhaps better expressed, exactly how much did you pay for your Vista
>> Version?
>>
>> If the price that you paid is equal to the prices provided by
>> Microsoft Sales, you are correct.
>> If the price you paid is considerably less than the prices provided by
>> Microsoft Sales, well, Microsoft is correct.
>>
>> Are you certain that you do not have retail Vista Upgrade OEM?
>>

The problem was resolved some time ago and everyone who got bad keys should
have already gotten new ones. If not, a quick call to Microsoft will
resolve the issue.

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"Mark" <no-reply-to-me@nopenaddanothere.com> wrote in message
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> Just purchased a second license using the Family Discount and sure
> enough, Microsoft liked my Product Key. I am sure it is a PID issue with
> their database and website.

Richard G. Harper wrote:
> The problem was resolved some time ago and everyone who got bad keys should
> have already gotten new ones. If not, a quick call to Microsoft will
> resolve the issue.
>


Totally untrue!

Some time ago? Quick call to Microsoft?

Sorry Richard but you are so far off the mark with your reply it is sad.
Maybe you should read the thread completely but seeing that you delete
the content when replying and top post you obviously do not know how to
use Usenet! Sorry to write this way but.....

Microsoft PIDs are problematic at least for 64 bit Vista and possibly
business Vista. The Keys are seemingly fine but who knows? Not the 2nd
level Windows Vista Research Team... They are a step above the 3rd world
support when you first call in which by the way, is PATHETIC.


Please read the complete thread and respond accordingly with some
possible help or suggestions otherwise..


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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
> OEM versions of Windows are not upgrade, they are full versions, just like
> you would buy the FPP in a store. Just that Upgrades are not allowed from
> prior version of Windows.

Some OEM versions are upgrades. At least they were with XP.

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- T. S. Eliot

Mark wrote:
>
>
> Richard G. Harper wrote:
>> The problem was resolved some time ago and everyone who got bad keys
>> should have already gotten new ones. If not, a quick call to
>> Microsoft will resolve the issue.
>>
>
>
> Totally untrue!
>
> Some time ago? Quick call to Microsoft?
>
> Sorry Richard but you are so far off the mark with your reply it is sad.
> Maybe you should read the thread completely but seeing that you delete
> the content when replying and top post you obviously do not know how to
> use Usenet! Sorry to write this way but.....
>
> Microsoft PIDs are problematic at least for 64 bit Vista and possibly
> business Vista. The Keys are seemingly fine but who knows? Not the 2nd
> level Windows Vista Research Team... They are a step above the 3rd world
> support when you first call in which by the way, is PATHETIC.
>
>
> Please read the complete thread and respond accordingly with some
> possible help or suggestions otherwise..
>
>
> Site


I cannot believe this is so baffeling to Microsoft. Their higher level
support was supposed to call back today 6pm-7pm but no call.

Still waiting for Microsoft to call!

Mark

Mark wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>>
>>
>> Richard G. Harper wrote:
>>> The problem was resolved some time ago and everyone who got bad keys
>>> should have already gotten new ones. If not, a quick call to
>>> Microsoft will resolve the issue.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Totally untrue!
>>
>> Some time ago? Quick call to Microsoft?
>>
>> Sorry Richard but you are so far off the mark with your reply it is
>> sad. Maybe you should read the thread completely but seeing that you
>> delete the content when replying and top post you obviously do not
>> know how to use Usenet! Sorry to write this way but.....
>>
>> Microsoft PIDs are problematic at least for 64 bit Vista and possibly
>> business Vista. The Keys are seemingly fine but who knows? Not the 2nd
>> level Windows Vista Research Team... They are a step above the 3rd
>> world support when you first call in which by the way, is PATHETIC.
>>
>>
>> Please read the complete thread and respond accordingly with some
>> possible help or suggestions otherwise..
>>
>>
>> Site
>
>
> I cannot believe this is so baffeling to Microsoft. Their higher level
> support was supposed to call back today 6pm-7pm but no call.
>
> Still waiting for Microsoft to call!
>
> Mark
>


Just got a call from Microsoft Research Team. This issue has been
brought to Microsoft's attention (Microsoft meaning Microsoft and not
the sub contractor doing support calls) Other then being told that, I am
to get a call back Wednesday hopefully with more information. I will
post my update.

Mark

"molitar" <molitar@gmail.com> wrote:

> No such thing as OEM upgrade. OEM is for new builds only so you
> can't have an OEM Upgrade.

Incorrect. MSFT has made OEM upgrades available for several OSs, my
Windows XP Pro is an OEM upgrade and the Windows XP Home on my son's
laptop is also an OEM upgrade.

OEM upgrades are for manufacturers who wish to sell PCs with an older
OS (WinME for my son's laptop) prior to release of a new OS but after
announcement of the new OS so the manufacturer can offer a upgrade
certificate with the computer and send an OEM upgrade when it's
available.