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Old 02-11-2007   #1 (permalink)
Roberto


 
 

Windows Defender

After preventing Adobe reader V8.0 from automatically starting at boot up
[using msconfig > startup], defender appears in the system tray area
and tells me "windows has blocked startup programs".
Is there a way to prevent this, Adobe reader doesn't allow any
configuration options that I can find, so msconfig seems to be the
only way of preventing it running at bootup.

rgds
Roberto


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Old 02-11-2007   #2 (permalink)
Chad Harris


 
 

Re: Windows Defender

Roberto--

I'm confused by this post. Are you possibly using Windows One Care 1.5?
One care 1.5 has its own native spyware scanning and it will often cause a
bang on Defender and you can go to services.msc in run box, and make
Defender inactive--you'll still have spyware scanning via One Care.

I don't understand the nature of the problem with Adobe and Defender. I
have Adobe on Vista with WOC 1.5 no problems.

How does Defender tell you "Windows has blocked startup programs?" Which
Programns? Can you repeat the whole error message? Is their any erratic
behavior of Vista or any programs?

CH

"Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:uPnW9ujTHHA.496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> After preventing Adobe reader V8.0 from automatically starting at boot
> up [using msconfig > startup], defender appears in the system tray
> area and tells me "windows has blocked startup programs".
> Is there a way to prevent this, Adobe reader doesn't allow any
> configuration options that I can find, so msconfig seems to be the
> only way of preventing it running at bootup.
>
> rgds
> Roberto


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Old 02-11-2007   #3 (permalink)
Bill Condie


 
 

Re: Windows Defender

I just checked. Windows Defender is TURNED OFF when you're on Vista OneCare,
where's it's built-in.


"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
news:eNaEsBkTHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Roberto--
>
> I'm confused by this post. Are you possibly using Windows One Care 1.5?
> One care 1.5 has its own native spyware scanning and it will often cause a
> bang on Defender and you can go to services.msc in run box, and make
> Defender inactive--you'll still have spyware scanning via One Care.
>
> I don't understand the nature of the problem with Adobe and Defender. I
> have Adobe on Vista with WOC 1.5 no problems.
>
> How does Defender tell you "Windows has blocked startup programs?" Which
> Programns? Can you repeat the whole error message? Is their any erratic
> behavior of Vista or any programs?
>
> CH
>
> "Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:uPnW9ujTHHA.496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> After preventing Adobe reader V8.0 from automatically starting at boot
>> up [using msconfig > startup], defender appears in the system tray
>> area and tells me "windows has blocked startup programs".
>> Is there a way to prevent this, Adobe reader doesn't allow any
>> configuration options that I can find, so msconfig seems to be the
>> only way of preventing it running at bootup.
>>
>> rgds
>> Roberto

>


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Old 02-11-2007   #4 (permalink)
Jon


 
 

Re: Windows Defender

"Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:uPnW9ujTHHA.496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> After preventing Adobe reader V8.0 from automatically starting at boot
> up [using msconfig > startup], defender appears in the system tray
> area and tells me "windows has blocked startup programs".
> Is there a way to prevent this, Adobe reader doesn't allow any
> configuration options that I can find, so msconfig seems to be the
> only way of preventing it running at bootup.
>
> rgds
> Roberto


Rather than uncheck it via msconfig, re-check it, and then delete the
startup entry.

This may require some registry editing, probably at

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
or
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

--
Jon

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Old 02-11-2007   #5 (permalink)
Rock


 
 

Re: Windows Defender

"Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.net> wrote

> After preventing Adobe reader V8.0 from automatically starting at boot
> up [using msconfig > startup], defender appears in the system tray
> area and tells me "windows has blocked startup programs".
> Is there a way to prevent this, Adobe reader doesn't allow any
> configuration options that I can find, so msconfig seems to be the
> only way of preventing it running at bootup.


When you get that notification, right click the icon, select the option to
display the program in question, and when the msconfig splash screen shows
up check the box for don't alert me again.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

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Old 02-12-2007   #6 (permalink)
Chad Harris


 
 

Re: Windows Defender

That's true, but it's not explained well. It shows up in the notification
area with a bang on it. The error message says you need to turn Defender
on. I'd say that's quintissential Redmond MSFT counterintuitivism at its
finest. Disabling Defender at services avoids seeing this and One Care
hasn't explained that it has a spyware scanning feature well at all.

CH


"Bill Condie" <billcondie@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:OuYX%23EkTHHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I just checked. Windows Defender is TURNED OFF when you're on Vista
>OneCare, where's it's built-in.
>
>
> "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
> news:eNaEsBkTHHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Roberto--
>>
>> I'm confused by this post. Are you possibly using Windows One Care 1.5?
>> One care 1.5 has its own native spyware scanning and it will often cause
>> a bang on Defender and you can go to services.msc in run box, and make
>> Defender inactive--you'll still have spyware scanning via One Care.
>>
>> I don't understand the nature of the problem with Adobe and Defender. I
>> have Adobe on Vista with WOC 1.5 no problems.
>>
>> How does Defender tell you "Windows has blocked startup programs?" Which
>> Programns? Can you repeat the whole error message? Is their any erratic
>> behavior of Vista or any programs?
>>
>> CH
>>
>> "Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:uPnW9ujTHHA.496@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> After preventing Adobe reader V8.0 from automatically starting at
>>> boot up [using msconfig > startup], defender appears in the system
>>> tray area and tells me "windows has blocked startup programs".
>>> Is there a way to prevent this, Adobe reader doesn't allow any
>>> configuration options that I can find, so msconfig seems to be
>>> the only way of preventing it running at bootup.
>>>
>>> rgds
>>> Roberto

>>

>


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Old 02-12-2007   #7 (permalink)
Roberto


 
 

Re: Windows Defender


"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eW$hqXkTHHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> "Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.net> wrote
>
>> After preventing Adobe reader V8.0 from automatically starting at boot
>> up [using msconfig > startup], defender appears in the system tray
>> area and tells me "windows has blocked startup programs".
>> Is there a way to prevent this, Adobe reader doesn't allow any
>> configuration options that I can find, so msconfig seems to be the
>> only way of preventing it running at bootup.

>
> When you get that notification, right click the icon, select the option to
> display the program in question, and when the msconfig splash screen shows
> up check the box for don't alert me again.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


Thanks to all who replied
Rock what you suggest makes sense and would be ideal, however all I get
is a list of running programs - not what I have disabled via
msconfig nor an option to disable anything ...
msconfig is in the list of running programs, so I disabled that
rebooted and defender no longer opens, problem solved.
FWIW I am running Vista Business.

rgds
Roberto

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Old 02-12-2007   #8 (permalink)
dev


 
 

Re: Windows Defender

/Roberto/ said:
> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:eW$hqXkTHHA.1036@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.net> wrote
>>
>>> After preventing Adobe reader V8.0 from automatically starting at boot
>>> up [using msconfig > startup], defender appears in the system tray
>>> area and tells me "windows has blocked startup programs".
>>> Is there a way to prevent this, Adobe reader doesn't allow any
>>> configuration options that I can find, so msconfig seems to be the
>>> only way of preventing it running at bootup.

>> When you get that notification, right click the icon, select the option to
>> display the program in question, and when the msconfig splash screen shows
>> up check the box for don't alert me again.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

>
> Thanks to all who replied
> Rock what you suggest makes sense and would be ideal, however all I get
> is a list of running programs - not what I have disabled via
> msconfig nor an option to disable anything ...
> msconfig is in the list of running programs, so I disabled that
> rebooted and defender no longer opens, problem solved.
> FWIW I am running Vista Business.


If you have not done so already, check out the options in Windows
Defender...

START menu|Control Panel|Windows Defender|TOOLS|OPTIONS

Drag the bottom of the window downwards to see all the configuration
choices.
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