Vista - Win XP Pro to Home Premium "Upgrade"

I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP Pro SP2
and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics card.

I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it has the
features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install. This is
essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's wacky. I
want to UPGRADE.

I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has bells and
whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE and get
Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....

....AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home Premium is
really a rebuid of my PC??????

Rgds

You are 100 percent right on every count. You're gonna have to deal with it.

-Frank

"Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B054F30A-A24C-46D7-8CB8-35E15CCC5EE7@microsoft.com...
>I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP Pro SP2
> and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics card.
>
> I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it has
> the
> features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install. This
> is
> essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's wacky.
> I
> want to UPGRADE.
>
> I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has bells
> and
> whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE and
> get
> Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....
>
> ...AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home Premium
> is
> really a rebuid of my PC??????
>
> Rgds
>

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...radepaths.mspx

You could try actually deleting the XP pro installation and files under
Documents and settings as well as all of the XP boot files
If there was almost nothing left of XP pro Vista just might install properly
into the "old" XP Pro
directory...............................................Seeing as Vista
needs to boot from the CD anyways.
peter
"Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B054F30A-A24C-46D7-8CB8-35E15CCC5EE7@microsoft.com...
>I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP Pro SP2
> and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics card.
>
> I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it has
> the
> features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install. This
> is
> essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's wacky.
> I
> want to UPGRADE.
>
> I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has bells
> and
> whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE and
> get
> Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....
>
> ...AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home Premium
> is
> really a rebuid of my PC??????
>
> Rgds
>

Ah, but now I read in March 2007 Australian PC USer Magazine that a "Clean"
install is done from WITHIN the Windows XP Desktop, in an INSTALL WINDOWS
SETUP OPTIONS box that includes Upgrade as an Option. So I dont actually have
to reformat my HDD at the beginning (dos) and boot into the DVDrive. It's
done from a setup window when I am already in Windows XP....???

...but it goes on to say "Note that if you're performing a true clean
install, having booted from the DVD, at this point you should click the Drive
Options link and then click to Format..." IF YOU'RE PERFORMING A TRUE
CLEAN INSTALL ????? You can fudge that????

And what is Microsofts rationalle in having Media Player/DVD Burning in
Vista Premium and NOT being able to get that as an upgrade from XP Pro??

Rgds n tks

"Frankster" wrote:

> You are 100 percent right on every count. You're gonna have to deal with it.
>
> -Frank
>
> "Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B054F30A-A24C-46D7-8CB8-35E15CCC5EE7@microsoft.com...
> >I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP Pro SP2
> > and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics card.
> >
> > I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it has
> > the
> > features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install. This
> > is
> > essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's wacky.
> > I
> > want to UPGRADE.
> >
> > I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has bells
> > and
> > whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE and
> > get
> > Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....
> >
> > ...AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home Premium
> > is
> > really a rebuid of my PC??????
> >
> > Rgds
> >
>
>

pete wrote:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...radepaths.mspx
>
>
> You could try actually deleting the XP pro installation and files under
> Documents and settings as well as all of the XP boot files
> If there was almost nothing left of XP pro Vista just might install
> properly into the "old" XP Pro
> directory...............................................Seeing as Vista
> needs to boot from the CD anyways.
> peter
> "Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B054F30A-A24C-46D7-8CB8-35E15CCC5EE7@microsoft.com...
>> I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP
>> Pro SP2
>> and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics card.
>>
>> I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it
>> has the
>> features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install.
>> This is
>> essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's
>> wacky. I
>> want to UPGRADE.
>>
>> I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has
>> bells and
>> whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE
>> and get
>> Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....
>>
>> ...AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home
>> Premium is
>> really a rebuid of my PC??????
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>

I am not sure what you are suggesting, but it sounds dangerous or wrong.

He will just have to do a backup of some sort of all of his data and
then do a clean install.

Rod wrote:
> Ah, but now I read in March 2007 Australian PC USer Magazine that a "Clean"
> install is done from WITHIN the Windows XP Desktop, in an INSTALL WINDOWS
> SETUP OPTIONS box that includes Upgrade as an Option. So I dont actually have
> to reformat my HDD at the beginning (dos) and boot into the DVDrive. It's
> done from a setup window when I am already in Windows XP....???
>
> ..but it goes on to say "Note that if you're performing a true clean
> install, having booted from the DVD, at this point you should click the Drive
> Options link and then click to Format..." IF YOU'RE PERFORMING A TRUE
> CLEAN INSTALL ????? You can fudge that????
>
> And what is Microsofts rationalle in having Media Player/DVD Burning in
> Vista Premium and NOT being able to get that as an upgrade from XP Pro??
>
> Rgds n tks
>
> "Frankster" wrote:
>
>> You are 100 percent right on every count. You're gonna have to deal with it.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B054F30A-A24C-46D7-8CB8-35E15CCC5EE7@microsoft.com...
>>> I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP Pro SP2
>>> and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics card.
>>>
>>> I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it has
>>> the
>>> features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install. This
>>> is
>>> essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's wacky.
>>> I
>>> want to UPGRADE.
>>>
>>> I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has bells
>>> and
>>> whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE and
>>> get
>>> Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....
>>>
>>> ...AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home Premium
>>> is
>>> really a rebuid of my PC??????
>>>
>>> Rgds
>>>
>>

Home Premium is a downgrade from XP Professional. You have to run setup
from within XP, and you will have to do a clean install. Vista will
create a Windows.old folder that will (probably) have all of your data
files. But you still need to do a backup.

You can "see" what you "want to see". But the bottom line is that you will
not be doing an "in-place" upgrade from XP Pro to Vista Home<anything>.
Period.

-Frank

"Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BDF0F06B-6EDB-46F4-BA25-8BF2DBDDBDDE@microsoft.com...
> Ah, but now I read in March 2007 Australian PC USer Magazine that a
> "Clean"
> install is done from WITHIN the Windows XP Desktop, in an INSTALL WINDOWS
> SETUP OPTIONS box that includes Upgrade as an Option. So I dont actually
> have
> to reformat my HDD at the beginning (dos) and boot into the DVDrive. It's
> done from a setup window when I am already in Windows XP....???
>
> ..but it goes on to say "Note that if you're performing a true clean
> install, having booted from the DVD, at this point you should click the
> Drive
> Options link and then click to Format..." IF YOU'RE PERFORMING A TRUE
> CLEAN INSTALL ????? You can fudge that????
>
> And what is Microsofts rationalle in having Media Player/DVD Burning in
> Vista Premium and NOT being able to get that as an upgrade from XP Pro??
>
> Rgds n tks
>
> "Frankster" wrote:
>
>> You are 100 percent right on every count. You're gonna have to deal with
>> it.
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B054F30A-A24C-46D7-8CB8-35E15CCC5EE7@microsoft.com...
>> >I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP Pro
>> >SP2
>> > and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics card.
>> >
>> > I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it has
>> > the
>> > features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install.
>> > This
>> > is
>> > essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's
>> > wacky.
>> > I
>> > want to UPGRADE.
>> >
>> > I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has
>> > bells
>> > and
>> > whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE
>> > and
>> > get
>> > Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....
>> >
>> > ...AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home
>> > Premium
>> > is
>> > really a rebuid of my PC??????
>> >
>> > Rgds
>> >
>>
>>

tks Chris. Appreciate your answer. Still, as a new O/S that all I really need
it for is Internet, MS Office and CD/DVD playing/burning, Vista Home Premium
seems to be an ideal "downgrade' for me, but one I cant get!! I gotta go the
Ultimate....

Or maybe I am just reading things wrong.....IF I BUY the UPGRADE VISTA HOME
PREMIUM I CAN, FROM within WINDOWS XP, run a CLEAN INSTALL - right? IF so,
that seems OK...I just dont want to have to reformatt myself manually from
DOS as a start....not that competent!!

Rod

"Chris" wrote:

> Rod wrote:
> > Ah, but now I read in March 2007 Australian PC USer Magazine that a "Clean"
> > install is done from WITHIN the Windows XP Desktop, in an INSTALL WINDOWS
> > SETUP OPTIONS box that includes Upgrade as an Option. So I dont actually have
> > to reformat my HDD at the beginning (dos) and boot into the DVDrive. It's
> > done from a setup window when I am already in Windows XP....???
> >
> > ..but it goes on to say "Note that if you're performing a true clean
> > install, having booted from the DVD, at this point you should click the Drive
> > Options link and then click to Format..." IF YOU'RE PERFORMING A TRUE
> > CLEAN INSTALL ????? You can fudge that????
> >
> > And what is Microsofts rationalle in having Media Player/DVD Burning in
> > Vista Premium and NOT being able to get that as an upgrade from XP Pro??
> >
> > Rgds n tks
> >
> > "Frankster" wrote:
> >
> >> You are 100 percent right on every count. You're gonna have to deal with it.
> >>
> >> -Frank
> >>
> >> "Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:B054F30A-A24C-46D7-8CB8-35E15CCC5EE7@microsoft.com...
> >>> I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP Pro SP2
> >>> and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics card.
> >>>
> >>> I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it has
> >>> the
> >>> features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install. This
> >>> is
> >>> essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's wacky.
> >>> I
> >>> want to UPGRADE.
> >>>
> >>> I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has bells
> >>> and
> >>> whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE and
> >>> get
> >>> Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....
> >>>
> >>> ...AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home Premium
> >>> is
> >>> really a rebuid of my PC??????
> >>>
> >>> Rgds
> >>>
> >>
>
> Home Premium is a downgrade from XP Professional. You have to run setup
> from within XP, and you will have to do a clean install. Vista will
> create a Windows.old folder that will (probably) have all of your data
> files. But you still need to do a backup.
>

A clean Vista install, even with a format, is never from DOS anymore. The
format (if any) is built into the installation. It's been this way since
Windows NT! The last time I think you could format in DOS was Windows
95/98.

-Frank

"Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4B18F3B6-F3FE-4F4C-9328-AD1BD4E8101E@microsoft.com...
> tks Chris. Appreciate your answer. Still, as a new O/S that all I really
> need
> it for is Internet, MS Office and CD/DVD playing/burning, Vista Home
> Premium
> seems to be an ideal "downgrade' for me, but one I cant get!! I gotta go
> the
> Ultimate....
>
> Or maybe I am just reading things wrong.....IF I BUY the UPGRADE VISTA
> HOME
> PREMIUM I CAN, FROM within WINDOWS XP, run a CLEAN INSTALL - right? IF so,
> that seems OK...I just dont want to have to reformatt myself manually from
> DOS as a start....not that competent!!
>
> Rod
>
> "Chris" wrote:
>
>> Rod wrote:
>> > Ah, but now I read in March 2007 Australian PC USer Magazine that a
>> > "Clean"
>> > install is done from WITHIN the Windows XP Desktop, in an INSTALL
>> > WINDOWS
>> > SETUP OPTIONS box that includes Upgrade as an Option. So I dont
>> > actually have
>> > to reformat my HDD at the beginning (dos) and boot into the DVDrive.
>> > It's
>> > done from a setup window when I am already in Windows XP....???
>> >
>> > ..but it goes on to say "Note that if you're performing a true clean
>> > install, having booted from the DVD, at this point you should click the
>> > Drive
>> > Options link and then click to Format..." IF YOU'RE PERFORMING A
>> > TRUE
>> > CLEAN INSTALL ????? You can fudge that????
>> >
>> > And what is Microsofts rationalle in having Media Player/DVD Burning in
>> > Vista Premium and NOT being able to get that as an upgrade from XP
>> > Pro??
>> >
>> > Rgds n tks
>> >
>> > "Frankster" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You are 100 percent right on every count. You're gonna have to deal
>> >> with it.
>> >>
>> >> -Frank
>> >>
>> >> "Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:B054F30A-A24C-46D7-8CB8-35E15CCC5EE7@microsoft.com...
>> >>> I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP
>> >>> Pro SP2
>> >>> and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics
>> >>> card.
>> >>>
>> >>> I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it
>> >>> has
>> >>> the
>> >>> features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install.
>> >>> This
>> >>> is
>> >>> essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's
>> >>> wacky.
>> >>> I
>> >>> want to UPGRADE.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has
>> >>> bells
>> >>> and
>> >>> whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE
>> >>> and
>> >>> get
>> >>> Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....
>> >>>
>> >>> ...AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home
>> >>> Premium
>> >>> is
>> >>> really a rebuid of my PC??????
>> >>>
>> >>> Rgds
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>> Home Premium is a downgrade from XP Professional. You have to run setup
>> from within XP, and you will have to do a clean install. Vista will
>> create a Windows.old folder that will (probably) have all of your data
>> files. But you still need to do a backup.
>>

What on earth are you talking about? No one should have to delete any part
of XP prior to upgrading to Vista. Bad advise, imho.

Lang

"pete" <pete@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:8CCBBDFE-DD55-401E-B449-7F320E112AC1@microsoft.com...
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...radepaths.mspx
>
> You could try actually deleting the XP pro installation and files under
> Documents and settings as well as all of the XP boot files
> If there was almost nothing left of XP pro Vista just might install
> properly into the "old" XP Pro
> directory...............................................Seeing as Vista
> needs to boot from the CD anyways.
> peter
> "Rod" <Rod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B054F30A-A24C-46D7-8CB8-35E15CCC5EE7@microsoft.com...
>>I have a PC that I have had for several years. It runs a copy of XP Pro
>>SP2
>> and is "Vista" ready in terms of HDD, RAM, Processor and Graphics card.
>>
>> I was ready to go out and get a copy of Home Premium Upgrade, as it has
>> the
>> features I want, and just read I would have to do a clean install. This
>> is
>> essentially a reformat of HDD and start from scratch, right? That's
>> wacky. I
>> want to UPGRADE.
>>
>> I don't want the extra expense of getting Vista Ultimate as it has bells
>> and
>> whistles I dont want, but that seems to be the only way I can UPGRADE and
>> get
>> Media Player/DVD Burning functionality built-in....
>>
>> ...AM I reading this right? An UPGRADE from XP Pro to Vista Home Premium
>> is
>> really a rebuid of my PC??????
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>