Vista - ADMINPAK.MSI

OK here's the million dollar question!

I there a version of ADMINPAK.MSI that will run on Windows Vista?

From what I can find out...the is not..but I could be wrong.

If there is not tool seems like Microsoft has gone through alot of troble to
NOT answer this question.

For example look at the following article or the 50 others I found:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];304718

List every OS but Vista. Would it be that hard to have some grunt at MS to
update this article to say "Vista is (or is not) current not supported"?

Could they not just put a note on the ADMINPAK.MSI download page that says
"Vista currently not supported please use RDP Client to log in to a supported
version" or "Vista is supported please click the following link".

Honestly I don't think it would be to much to ask to just not leave all of
us hanging and searching around on thier website like fools for a non
existant solution. If it is not supported JUST SAY SO!

I don't think there is a Vista version yet. And you are right, there should be
more info from MS about it.



"SirOssis" <SirOssis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4743E3F9-BCDB-4E2D-AB0C-64D89E2867F0@microsoft.com...
> OK here's the million dollar question!
>
> I there a version of ADMINPAK.MSI that will run on Windows Vista?
>
> From what I can find out...the is not..but I could be wrong.
>
> If there is not tool seems like Microsoft has gone through alot of troble to
> NOT answer this question.
>
> For example look at the following article or the 50 others I found:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];304718
>
> List every OS but Vista. Would it be that hard to have some grunt at MS to
> update this article to say "Vista is (or is not) current not supported"?
>
> Could they not just put a note on the ADMINPAK.MSI download page that says
> "Vista currently not supported please use RDP Client to log in to a supported
> version" or "Vista is supported please click the following link".
>
> Honestly I don't think it would be to much to ask to just not leave all of
> us hanging and searching around on thier website like fools for a non
> existant solution. If it is not supported JUST SAY SO!
>

Did you see this kb article?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930056

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"SirOssis" <SirOssis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4743E3F9-BCDB-4E2D-AB0C-64D89E2867F0@microsoft.com...
> OK here's the million dollar question!
>
> I there a version of ADMINPAK.MSI that will run on Windows Vista?
>
> From what I can find out...the is not..but I could be wrong.
>
> If there is not tool seems like Microsoft has gone through alot of troble
> to
> NOT answer this question.
>
> For example look at the following article or the 50 others I found:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];304718
>
> List every OS but Vista. Would it be that hard to have some grunt at MS to
> update this article to say "Vista is (or is not) current not supported"?
>
> Could they not just put a note on the ADMINPAK.MSI download page that says
> "Vista currently not supported please use RDP Client to log in to a
> supported
> version" or "Vista is supported please click the following link".
>
> Honestly I don't think it would be to much to ask to just not leave all of
> us hanging and searching around on thier website like fools for a non
> existant solution. If it is not supported JUST SAY SO!
>

THANKS KERRY that at least answers the question!
HOWEVER...
If all that's required for the Adminpak.msi to work is to create the
"RegisterAdminPak.cmd" script (as described in the article) to register some
dll's with enhanced security then WHY hasn't Microsoft just come out with a
new installer that does this for you??? I guess they assume that it is a
"rare" case that someone would want to use the administration tools for AD on
a vista box.
Maybe Microsoft think that Vista is just a glorified Fisher Price activity
center for grown-ups, so no self respecting network administrator is ever
going to use it.

Just food for thought...

________________________________________________________________

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> Did you see this kb article?
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930056
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "SirOssis" <SirOssis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4743E3F9-BCDB-4E2D-AB0C-64D89E2867F0@microsoft.com...
> > OK here's the million dollar question!
> >
> > I there a version of ADMINPAK.MSI that will run on Windows Vista?
> >
> > From what I can find out...the is not..but I could be wrong.
> >
> > If there is not tool seems like Microsoft has gone through alot of troble
> > to
> > NOT answer this question.
> >
> > For example look at the following article or the 50 others I found:
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];304718
> >
> > List every OS but Vista. Would it be that hard to have some grunt at MS to
> > update this article to say "Vista is (or is not) current not supported"?
> >
> > Could they not just put a note on the ADMINPAK.MSI download page that says
> > "Vista currently not supported please use RDP Client to log in to a
> > supported
> > version" or "Vista is supported please click the following link".
> >
> > Honestly I don't think it would be to much to ask to just not leave all of
> > us hanging and searching around on thier website like fools for a non
> > existant solution. If it is not supported JUST SAY SO!
> >
>
>

Adminpak's are server specific not client specific. The article tells you
how to get most features of the Server 2003 adminpak running on Vista. It is
a workaround not a fix or an update. The next version of Windows Server
(Longhorn) should have an adminpak that works on Vista clients. This is the
same as with Windows 2000. The Win2k Server adminpak didn't work in XP. We
had to wait until Server 2003 came out for an adminpak that worked in XP. I
don't like it either but that is the way it seems to work. Adminpaks are
updated when the server OS is updated.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"SirOssis" <SirOssis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AFAFCDB1-AE7D-407D-B722-C78C1D283C1C@microsoft.com...
> THANKS KERRY that at least answers the question!
> HOWEVER...
> If all that's required for the Adminpak.msi to work is to create the
> "RegisterAdminPak.cmd" script (as described in the article) to register
> some
> dll's with enhanced security then WHY hasn't Microsoft just come out with
> a
> new installer that does this for you??? I guess they assume that it is a
> "rare" case that someone would want to use the administration tools for AD
> on
> a vista box.
> Maybe Microsoft think that Vista is just a glorified Fisher Price activity
> center for grown-ups, so no self respecting network administrator is ever
> going to use it.
>
> Just food for thought...
>
> ________________________________________________________________
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> Did you see this kb article?
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930056
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "SirOssis" <SirOssis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4743E3F9-BCDB-4E2D-AB0C-64D89E2867F0@microsoft.com...
>> > OK here's the million dollar question!
>> >
>> > I there a version of ADMINPAK.MSI that will run on Windows Vista?
>> >
>> > From what I can find out...the is not..but I could be wrong.
>> >
>> > If there is not tool seems like Microsoft has gone through alot of
>> > troble
>> > to
>> > NOT answer this question.
>> >
>> > For example look at the following article or the 50 others I found:
>> >
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];304718
>> >
>> > List every OS but Vista. Would it be that hard to have some grunt at MS
>> > to
>> > update this article to say "Vista is (or is not) current not
>> > supported"?
>> >
>> > Could they not just put a note on the ADMINPAK.MSI download page that
>> > says
>> > "Vista currently not supported please use RDP Client to log in to a
>> > supported
>> > version" or "Vista is supported please click the following link".
>> >
>> > Honestly I don't think it would be to much to ask to just not leave all
>> > of
>> > us hanging and searching around on thier website like fools for a non
>> > existant solution. If it is not supported JUST SAY SO!
>> >
>>
>>

Actually you may not have to re-register the DLLs at all. If it doesn't
install correctly, just reinstall it.

Stuart.
----------

"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> Adminpak's are server specific not client specific. The article tells you
> how to get most features of the Server 2003 adminpak running on Vista. It is
> a workaround not a fix or an update. The next version of Windows Server
> (Longhorn) should have an adminpak that works on Vista clients. This is the
> same as with Windows 2000. The Win2k Server adminpak didn't work in XP. We
> had to wait until Server 2003 came out for an adminpak that worked in XP. I
> don't like it either but that is the way it seems to work. Adminpaks are
> updated when the server OS is updated.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "SirOssis" <SirOssis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AFAFCDB1-AE7D-407D-B722-C78C1D283C1C@microsoft.com...
> > THANKS KERRY that at least answers the question!
> > HOWEVER...
> > If all that's required for the Adminpak.msi to work is to create the
> > "RegisterAdminPak.cmd" script (as described in the article) to register
> > some
> > dll's with enhanced security then WHY hasn't Microsoft just come out with
> > a
> > new installer that does this for you??? I guess they assume that it is a
> > "rare" case that someone would want to use the administration tools for AD
> > on
> > a vista box.
> > Maybe Microsoft think that Vista is just a glorified Fisher Price activity
> > center for grown-ups, so no self respecting network administrator is ever
> > going to use it.
> >
> > Just food for thought...
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> >
> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
> >
> >> Did you see this kb article?
> >>
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930056
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kerry Brown
> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
> >>
> >>
> >> "SirOssis" <SirOssis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4743E3F9-BCDB-4E2D-AB0C-64D89E2867F0@microsoft.com...
> >> > OK here's the million dollar question!
> >> >
> >> > I there a version of ADMINPAK.MSI that will run on Windows Vista?
> >> >
> >> > From what I can find out...the is not..but I could be wrong.
> >> >
> >> > If there is not tool seems like Microsoft has gone through alot of
> >> > troble
> >> > to
> >> > NOT answer this question.
> >> >
> >> > For example look at the following article or the 50 others I found:
> >> >
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];304718
> >> >
> >> > List every OS but Vista. Would it be that hard to have some grunt at MS
> >> > to
> >> > update this article to say "Vista is (or is not) current not
> >> > supported"?
> >> >
> >> > Could they not just put a note on the ADMINPAK.MSI download page that
> >> > says
> >> > "Vista currently not supported please use RDP Client to log in to a
> >> > supported
> >> > version" or "Vista is supported please click the following link".
> >> >
> >> > Honestly I don't think it would be to much to ask to just not leave all
> >> > of
> >> > us hanging and searching around on thier website like fools for a non
> >> > existant solution. If it is not supported JUST SAY SO!
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>

I do almost all my server management through RDP so the tools are running on
the server. I haven't even tried to install an adminpak on a Vista computer
or any computer in years. I just assumed it wouldn't work as the new mmc
console in Vista is so different. I was surprised to find a workaround.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Stuart [MVP]" <StuartMVP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1929BA84-006A-4F0A-95B6-8A14208B6639@microsoft.com...
> Actually you may not have to re-register the DLLs at all. If it doesn't
> install correctly, just reinstall it.
>
> Stuart.
> ----------
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> Adminpak's are server specific not client specific. The article tells you
>> how to get most features of the Server 2003 adminpak running on Vista. It
>> is
>> a workaround not a fix or an update. The next version of Windows Server
>> (Longhorn) should have an adminpak that works on Vista clients. This is
>> the
>> same as with Windows 2000. The Win2k Server adminpak didn't work in XP.
>> We
>> had to wait until Server 2003 came out for an adminpak that worked in XP.
>> I
>> don't like it either but that is the way it seems to work. Adminpaks are
>> updated when the server OS is updated.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "SirOssis" <SirOssis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AFAFCDB1-AE7D-407D-B722-C78C1D283C1C@microsoft.com...
>> > THANKS KERRY that at least answers the question!
>> > HOWEVER...
>> > If all that's required for the Adminpak.msi to work is to create the
>> > "RegisterAdminPak.cmd" script (as described in the article) to register
>> > some
>> > dll's with enhanced security then WHY hasn't Microsoft just come out
>> > with
>> > a
>> > new installer that does this for you??? I guess they assume that it is
>> > a
>> > "rare" case that someone would want to use the administration tools for
>> > AD
>> > on
>> > a vista box.
>> > Maybe Microsoft think that Vista is just a glorified Fisher Price
>> > activity
>> > center for grown-ups, so no self respecting network administrator is
>> > ever
>> > going to use it.
>> >
>> > Just food for thought...
>> >
>> > ________________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Did you see this kb article?
>> >>
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930056
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Kerry Brown
>> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "SirOssis" <SirOssis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:4743E3F9-BCDB-4E2D-AB0C-64D89E2867F0@microsoft.com...
>> >> > OK here's the million dollar question!
>> >> >
>> >> > I there a version of ADMINPAK.MSI that will run on Windows Vista?
>> >> >
>> >> > From what I can find out...the is not..but I could be wrong.
>> >> >
>> >> > If there is not tool seems like Microsoft has gone through alot of
>> >> > troble
>> >> > to
>> >> > NOT answer this question.
>> >> >
>> >> > For example look at the following article or the 50 others I found:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];304718
>> >> >
>> >> > List every OS but Vista. Would it be that hard to have some grunt at
>> >> > MS
>> >> > to
>> >> > update this article to say "Vista is (or is not) current not
>> >> > supported"?
>> >> >
>> >> > Could they not just put a note on the ADMINPAK.MSI download page
>> >> > that
>> >> > says
>> >> > "Vista currently not supported please use RDP Client to log in to a
>> >> > supported
>> >> > version" or "Vista is supported please click the following link".
>> >> >
>> >> > Honestly I don't think it would be to much to ask to just not leave
>> >> > all
>> >> > of
>> >> > us hanging and searching around on thier website like fools for a
>> >> > non
>> >> > existant solution. If it is not supported JUST SAY SO!
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

In message <e7autFIUHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> "Kerry Brown"
<kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote:

>I do almost all my server management through RDP so the tools are running on
>the server. I haven't even tried to install an adminpak on a Vista computer
>or any computer in years. I just assumed it wouldn't work as the new mmc
>console in Vista is so different. I was surprised to find a workaround.

Personally, I've rather enjoyed not having to RDP.

However, it requires that my user account has rather substantial
privileges on the network, which isn't really a good idea either.
--
Insert something clever here.